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When Does Death Start? (Here Come the Death Panels)
New York Times ^ | 12/20/09 | By DARSHAK SANGHAVI

Posted on 12/20/2009 7:09:10 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

A new approach to organ donation doesn’t require waiting until the donor’s brain death....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donation; euthanasia; obamacare; organ
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I was offered a Lung transplant from the VA, about 6 months ago. Which I felt I could not go thru do to deterioting Health. My Doctor left unexpectly. The new Doctor I saw a couple weeks ago said I would not take a Flu shot so they would check my Lungs in a Year. They were checking them every 3 months. And I would not be having any more breathing test either. Its a good thing I belive in a Higher Power in control of my life. My Wife said welcome to the new health care. They will make the choices not you.


21 posted on 12/20/2009 8:09:27 AM PST by easternsky
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To: stevie_d_64

Somehow Terry Shivo’s case comes to mind...

Every time I see her name tears come from my soul. I will
never forget what they did. I always hope that God would
allow her to come back as a ghost and spook a lot of people involved in her crime.


22 posted on 12/20/2009 8:11:42 AM PST by savage woman
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To: Carl LaFong
When the State says it does, silly.

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23 posted on 12/20/2009 8:17:52 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Germans may have lost World War II, but there’s no doubt in my mind that the Nazis won.


24 posted on 12/20/2009 8:18:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“When does death start?”

Uh, as soon as one develops conservative values?


25 posted on 12/20/2009 8:20:09 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It is coming to this..


26 posted on 12/20/2009 8:35:50 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: bayliving

Maybe we should strike first ~ get ahead of the price curve fur shur ~ although most “progressive” organs are going to have hep-C and AIDs.


27 posted on 12/20/2009 8:38:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: mendedheart
I have a pacemaker/defibrillator also. The cardiologist said it will be good for about another two years, give or take. My aunt, who is in her 80s, has a pacemaker only. It's lasted about five years. But I wonder what will happen to both of us when our devices start to fail and we need new ones installed. Being in my 50s, they might put me on a waiting list. My aunt? Well, she'll be too old to qualify. For either of us, if we don't get a new device when we need it, and our present device fails, it's all over.

Must be nice for these guys to play god.

28 posted on 12/20/2009 8:38:41 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

When does death start?

When one becomes a liberal.


29 posted on 12/20/2009 8:41:26 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: John Leland 1789

There are 11 dimensions of existence and they all work together to allow us to exist ~ no one of them is unimportant. Paul speaks of the heart, mind, body, spirit and soul. There are several others intuited elsewhere.


30 posted on 12/20/2009 8:41:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SubMareener

Good luck with that. Personal choice in organ donation will be null and void. In the tradition of their German Nazi predecessors the democrat party line is that we provide your healthecare and your body belongs to the Reich.


31 posted on 12/20/2009 8:43:30 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

At birth and, for the pro-aborts, often BEFORE.


32 posted on 12/20/2009 8:54:24 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: redheadtoo

A fellow told me years ago, The way things are going, if you put yourself down as a donor, you’re likely to wake up in a bathtub full of ice with no kidneys or liver.....


33 posted on 12/20/2009 9:00:22 AM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: FR_addict

Reminds me of the old saying,”which came first, the chicken or the egg?” Now it will be, “Which came first, death or donation?”


34 posted on 12/20/2009 9:04:12 AM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: redheadtoo
I haven’t read the entire article but the headline is scary enough to make me want to rip the ‘donor’ sticker off of my driver’s license.

I did that years ago.

Actually, I think article is the precursor to "forced" volunteering of organs.

Soon you will have no choice when you die - some senator or congressman needs a kidney and you are match? Guess what, he'll get it whether you have that sticker or not.

35 posted on 12/20/2009 9:06:43 AM PST by raybbr (If you try to kiss your son on the head while he's running you WILL get a fat lip.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually, other than targeted hatred of jews, the Nazi’s were a better bunch than what we have running this country now. They were more organized, actually believed in Germany,Traits thathe modern dimOratparty of the USA doesn’t have. Not trying to defend their inhuman evilness, Just sayin’......


36 posted on 12/20/2009 9:15:43 AM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: Quickgun

substitute Disciplined for organized. Dam commies running this country ARE organized, unfortunately.


37 posted on 12/20/2009 9:18:06 AM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Heck we can become just like China in that regard, strip people of organs at will.

Opens up a whole new industry, theft of life


38 posted on 12/20/2009 9:20:23 AM PST by longun45 (Still think a revolution cannot happen here? It's coming and gaining speed.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
local contact and fax numbers for Senators (demwits)

Email is a waste of time and effort they are NOT reading them....Phone and fax are the best route.

Remind them that obamanationcare effects EVERY ONE!

VA cuts, retired Military..Tri Care for Life (nearly $5,000 in new fees) 8% cut in Medicare, increased premiums, 15% cut to nursing homes and for Pete's sake why are we creating a new tax on special needs kids?

39 posted on 12/20/2009 10:50:08 AM PST by GailA (JESUS is Christmas! Cradle in the shadow of a Cross)
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To: easternsky
Looks like they are already cutting the VA budget even before obamanationcare goes through.

local contact and fax numbers for Senators (demwits)

Email is a waste of time and effort they are NOT reading them....Phone and fax are the best route.

Remind them that obamanationcare effects EVERY ONE!

VA cuts, retired Military..Tri Care for Life (nearly $5,000 in new fees) 8% cut in Medicare, increased premiums, 15% cut to nursing homes and for Pete's sake why are we creating a new tax on special needs kids?

40 posted on 12/20/2009 10:55:38 AM PST by GailA (JESUS is Christmas! Cradle in the shadow of a Cross)
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