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Executive Order 12425
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Posted on 12/20/2009 9:00:32 PM PST by American Dream 246

EO: AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

Here's the text of 2(c), which this EO now has applying to INTERPOL:

(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

An INTERPOL branch in the US now cannot be searched, it's files are not subject to legal subpoena nor discovery. If any branch of government wants to keep documents out of the hands of the court system, just hand them over to INTERPOL until the smoke clears.

INTERPOL will now be able to maintain files on US citizens.

By this EO, Obama has conferred diplomatic immunity upon INTERPOL, exemption from being subject to search and seizure by law enforcement, exemption from US taxes, and immunity from FOIA requests, etc.

Obama just declared INTERPOL records immune from search and seizure -- "The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable."

Does INTERPOL have a file on Obama -- on his associations?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; blackmail; eo12425; executiveorder; executiveorder12425; extortion; globalpolice; immunity; impeachobama; interpol; islam; military; obama; sovereignty; waronterror
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1 posted on 12/20/2009 9:00:32 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246
(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

Looks to me like he's trying to protect the Glow-Bill Warming enviro-crooks and especially the IPCC from discovery. We know where that money trail leads: Rothschild, Soros, Rockefeller, Pew, Jones, Packard, Kennedy...

2 posted on 12/20/2009 9:07:56 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: American Dream 246

“shall be inviolable”

I feel violated.


3 posted on 12/20/2009 9:13:15 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: Carry_Okie

Suits need to be brought and people held to account and made to pay. Parents, students, PhDs angling for careers, grants giving organizations.

Were any of us over $100K in debt from student loans and studying this crap, I’d be looking for redress from someone. That’s a whole lotta university educations and endowments right there. People are going to go belly up from this. These people at the heart of it should go 1st and pay the most, starting with Strong, Soros, Gore, etc.


4 posted on 12/20/2009 9:17:04 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah."Our middle regiment, Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: American Dream 246

This sure smells like another of nobama’s pretty much fake “this’ll scare the crap out of em” ploy.

If he thinks they are going to be an effective “special forces” for him dealing with America, they all will draw back a bloody nub.


5 posted on 12/20/2009 9:21:25 PM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: American Dream 246

We might be getting closer to impeachable offenses!

Keep showing your solviet salute Zer0, and sooner or later the MSM and the Rats will begin to itch from the stress!


6 posted on 12/20/2009 9:23:56 PM PST by Noob1999 (LOOSE LIPS, SINK SHIPS)
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To: American Dream 246

Execute General Order 66


7 posted on 12/20/2009 9:24:05 PM PST by montag813
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To: American Dream 246

POS...no other way to put it.


8 posted on 12/20/2009 9:29:50 PM PST by lgjhn23
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To: lgjhn23
I have a very stupid question: since Great Britain is totally infiltrated by muslims, would that be a very sneaky way to let them come in with full screen and protection from the US government?

I know it seems nuts but this move, as an executive order so no oversight at all from anyone, does not make any sense at all to me so...I am thinking..
9 posted on 12/20/2009 9:34:56 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425

direct link for those prone to skepticism


10 posted on 12/20/2009 9:36:21 PM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: Noob1999

The current US House won’t impeach Hussein, and the current US Senate wouldn’t find him guilty if he sat in the witness chair killing babies with his.... Sorry, I do get angry.


11 posted on 12/20/2009 9:38:57 PM PST by JohnQ1 (War declared. Fire at will.)
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To: American Dream 246; Nachum

mark.


12 posted on 12/20/2009 9:39:12 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: Carry_Okie

This has nothing to do with the GloBull Warming BS - the language you quoted was not written by Obama, it is the language of a law that has existed for decades. It’s BS that he’s now applying it to INTERPOL, but it has nothing to do with the IPCC or any other climate stuff...


13 posted on 12/20/2009 9:40:49 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: American Dream 246

bttt


14 posted on 12/20/2009 9:41:05 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: lack-of-trust

“Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation.”

Hmmmm...if he has a British (or Kenyan) birth certificate, does this shield it from the public????


15 posted on 12/20/2009 9:43:47 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: American Dream 246

It’s just one more nail...

CA....


16 posted on 12/20/2009 9:51:38 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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To: OldDeckHand; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; Liz; Congressman Billybob
Challenging the legality of this order, precedent or capricious fiat?

And a heads up.....ping
17 posted on 12/20/2009 9:52:18 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
This has nothing to do with the GloBull Warming BS

Oh I think the timing of it does, especially considering the money involved.

- the language you quoted was not written by Obama, it is the language of a law that has existed for decades.

One in a long line of categorical exemptions effectively for NGOs, similar to EO 12986.

18 posted on 12/20/2009 10:02:17 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: American Dream 246

Why doesn’t he sign an EO allowing UNFOR to base here and patrol?


19 posted on 12/20/2009 10:04:39 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: American Dream 246
INTERPOL will now be able to maintain files on US citizens.

Obama signing this E.O. violates the 4th Amendment;

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

20 posted on 12/20/2009 10:08:43 PM PST by America2012 (No Taxation By An Obamanation)
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To: Vendome

That’s about what I think...this is an open door to any foreign organization to settle in US, be fully secret and protected and check us out or do whatever - without ANY oversight! May be I am wrong but I am not comfortable with that at all.


21 posted on 12/20/2009 10:18:47 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

No international police force should be able to operate with impunity in this country.


22 posted on 12/20/2009 10:20:18 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: mrreaganaut

Search and seizure ping


23 posted on 12/20/2009 10:24:28 PM PST by reaganaut (When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: American Dream 246

THIS is about his Birth Certificate and/or his passport(s) and/or his origin and/or his personal history.

Someone or something has gotten or is getting too close.


24 posted on 12/20/2009 11:18:23 PM PST by papasmurf
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To: Carry_Okie

He’s setting it up so that future stings like that of ACORN will not be legal to do or transmit for the foreign agencies he plans to allow into the country.


25 posted on 12/20/2009 11:26:28 PM PST by Ingtar (Asses far Left of me; Rinos to the Left; FReepin' on the Right with you.)
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To: Markos33

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26 posted on 12/20/2009 11:29:31 PM PST by Semper Mark ("Brevity is the soul of wit." Besides, I only have so much tagline space.)
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To: American Dream 246

They had to do this in order to be able to force the World Courts down American Throats !

Don’t stand and scratch your head and tell me you didn’t see it coming ....


27 posted on 12/20/2009 11:33:04 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Screaming in Agony they ran to the Government But then Realized from whence the Agony came !)
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To: SoCalPol; ~Kim4VRWC's~; SE Mom; STARWISE; penelopesire; hoosiermama; maggief; hennie pennie; ...

Might as well give ourselves a placemark ping.


28 posted on 12/20/2009 11:35:35 PM PST by onyx
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To: papasmurf; LucyT; BP2; MHGinTN; Candor7

I agree.


29 posted on 12/20/2009 11:36:46 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Markos33

yup


30 posted on 12/20/2009 11:37:22 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: American Dream 246

The birth certificate.


31 posted on 12/20/2009 11:55:33 PM PST by exnavy (God save the republic)
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To: American Dream 246
An INTERPOL branch in the US now cannot be searched, it's files are not subject to legal subpoena nor discovery. If any branch of government wants to keep documents out of the hands of the court system, just hand them over to INTERPOL until the smoke clears.

♫ There's something happening here. What it is, is pretty damn clear.♫

32 posted on 12/21/2009 12:01:15 AM PST by Semper Mark ("Brevity is the soul of wit." Besides, I only have so much tagline space.)
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To: shibumi; Salamander

I intended to ping you guys to the article in post 32.


33 posted on 12/21/2009 12:02:53 AM PST by Semper Mark ("Brevity is the soul of wit." Besides, I only have so much tagline space.)
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To: Markos33

Why, Thank you!

I brought my “Springfield.” You guys seen any “Buffalo” ‘round these here parts?


34 posted on 12/21/2009 12:08:43 AM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Noob1999

Closer? We’ve been there for months.


35 posted on 12/21/2009 12:27:52 AM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: American Dream 246

This is un-imaginable...


36 posted on 12/21/2009 1:01:06 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: American Dream 246

Interpol has files on US criminals. Nothing new. In theory, if not in practice, they do no have arrest powers. They can issue an international arrest warrant but it has to be enforced by a member country.

Interpol functions largely as an information gathering and circulating center re crime around the world. Their functions may have been expanded due to the spread of terrorism, but they are pretty good guys.

The key feature of this Ex. Order is that it protects international organizations from search and seizure in the US. This is a backdoor way of allowing terrorist-support groups to function unhindered if they can pose as a group who avoids the descriptions of terrorist support groups. This could include some so-called “human rights” groups, esp. those recognized by the UN as NGO’s (Non-governmental Organizations), key terrorism support/propaganda arms operations.


37 posted on 12/21/2009 1:23:24 AM PST by ToTheMax
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To: ToTheMax
Interpol has files on US criminals. Nothing new.

I agree. In fact, the US can't control what files may exist on US citizens outside our borders, unless they are in a nation that cooperates with us.

38 posted on 12/21/2009 1:49:57 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: American Dream 246

Sounds like Interpol has the goods on zero as well as any international corruptocrats he’s in business with now or will be in the future.


39 posted on 12/21/2009 2:32:45 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: ToTheMax
In theory, if not in practice, they do no have arrest powers.

Yet.

40 posted on 12/21/2009 2:47:54 AM PST by nina0113
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To: chilltherats

Here is the nitty gritty with all the EOs and the relevant part of the Act it refers to:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release
December 17, 2009

Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425

EXECUTIVE ORDER
- - - - - - -
AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words “except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act” and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 16, 2009.

********************************************************************************************************************

Executive Order 12425

Ronald Reagan’s Executive Orders
Executive Order 12425
by Ronald Reagan

International Criminal Police Organizations
Delivered on 16 June 1983.

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.

RONALD REAGAN
The White House,
June 16,1983.

[Filed with the Office of the Federal Register, 11:59 a.m., June 17, 1983]

http://www.answers.com/topic/executive-order-12425

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International Organizations Immunities Act, December 9, 1945

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/decad034.asp

SEC. 2. International organizations shall enjoy the status, immunities, exemptions, and privileges set forth in this section, as follows:

(a) International organizations shall, to the extent consistent with the instrument creating them, possess the capacity-

(i) to contract;

(ii) to acquire and dispose of real and personal property; (iii) to institute legal proceedings.

(b) International organizations, their property and their assets, wherever located, and by whomsoever held, shall enjoy the same immunity from suit and every form of judicial process as is enjoyed by foreign governments, except to the extent that such organizations may expressly waive their immunity for the purpose of any proceedings or by the terms of any contract.

(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

(d) Insofar as concerns customs duties and internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation, and the procedures in connection therewith; the registration of foreign agents; and the treatment of official communications, the privileges, exemptions, and immunities to which international organizations shall be entitled shall be those accorded under similar circumstances to foreign governments.

SEC. 3. Pursuant to regulations prescribed by the Commissioner of Customs with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, the baggage and effects of alien officers and employees of international organizations, or of aliens designated by foreign governments to serve as their representatives in or to such organizations, or of the families, suites, and servants of such officers, employees, or representatives shall be admitted (when imported in connection with the arrival of the owner) free of customs duties and free of internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation.

SEC. 4. The Internal Revenue Code is hereby amended as follows:

(a) Effective with respect to taxable years beginning after December 31, 1943, section 116 (c), relating to the exclusion from gross income of income of foreign governments, is amended to read as follows:

“(C) INCOME OF FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND OF INTERNATIONAL, ORGANIZATIONS.-The income of foreign governments or international organizations received from investments in the United States in stocks, bonds, or other domestic securities, owned by such foreign governments or by international organizations, or from interest on deposits, in banks in the United States of moneys belonging to such foreign. governments or international organizations, or from any other source within the United States.”

(b) Effective with respect to taxable years beginning after December 31, 1943, section 116 (h) (1), relating to the exclusion from gross income of amounts paid employees of foreign governments, is amended to read as follows:

“(1) RULE, FOR EXCLUSION.-Wages, fees, or salary of any employee of a foreign government or of an international organization or of the Commonwealth of the Philippines (including a consular or other officer, or a non-diplomatic representative), received as compensation for official services to such government,. international organization, or such Commonwealth-

” (A) If such employee is not, a citizen of the United States, or is a citizen of the Commonwealth of the Philippines (whether or not a citizen of the United States); and

” (B) If, in the ease of an employee of a foreign government or of the Commonwealth of the Philippines, the services are of a character similar to those performed by employees of the Government of the United States in foreign countries or in the Commonwealth of the Philippines, as the case may be; and

” (C) If, in the case of an employee of a foreign government or the Commonwealth of the Philippines, the foreign government or the Commonwealth grants an equivalent exemption to employees of the, Government of the United States performing similar services in such foreign country or such Commonwealth, as the case may be.”

(e) Effective January 1, 1946, section 1426 (b), defining the term “emploviiient” for the purposes of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act, is amended (1) by striking out the word “or” at the end of paragraph (14), (2) by striking out the period at the end of paragraph (15) and inserting in lieu thereof a semicolon and the word “or”, and (3) by inserting at the end of the subsection the following new paragraph:

(16) Service performed in the employ of an international organization.”

(d) Effective January 1, 1946, section 1607 (c), defining the term “employment” for the purposes of the Federal Unemployment Tax Act, is amended (1) by striking out the word “or” at the end of paragraph (14), (2) by striking out the period at the end of paragraph (15) and inserting in lieu thereof a semicolon and the word “or”, and (3) by inserting at the end of the subsection the following new paragraph:

” (16) Service performed in the employ of an international organization.”

(e) Section 1621 (a) (5), relating to the definition of “wages” for the purpose of collection of income tax at the source, is amended by inserting after the words “foreign government” the words “or an international organization”.

(f) Section 3466 (a), relating to exemption from communications taxes is amended by inserting immediately after the words “the District of Columbia” a comma and the words “or an international organization”.

(g) Section 3469 (f) (1), relating to exemption from the tax on transportation of persons ., is amended by inserting immediately after the words “the District of Columbia” a comma and the words “or an international organization”.

(h) Section 3475 (b) (1), relating to exemption from the tax on transportation of property, is amended by inserting immediately after the words “the District of Columbia” a comma and the words “or an international organization”.

(i) Section 3797 (a), relating to definitions, is amended by adding at the end thereof a new paragraph as follows:

(18) INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION.-The term ‘international organization’ means a public International organization entitled to enjoy privileges, exemptions, and immunities as an international organization under the International Organizations Immunities Act.”

SEC. 5. (a) Effective January 1, 1946, section 209 (b) of the Social Security Act, defining the term “employment” for the purposes of title 11 of the Act, is amended (1) by striking out the word “or” at the end of paragraph (14), (2) by striking out the period at the end of paragraph (15) and insertiDg in lieu thereof a semicolon and the word “or”, and (3) by inserting at the end of the subsection the following new paragraph:

” (16) Service performed in the employ of an international organization entitled to enjoy privileges, exemptions, and immunities as an international organization under the International Organizations Immunities Act.”

(b) No tax sliall be collected under title VIII or IX of the Social Security Act or under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act or the Federal Unemployment Tax Act, with respect to services rendered prior to January 1., 1946, which are described in paragraph (16) of sections 1426 (6) and 1607 (c) of the Internal Revenue Code, as amended, and any such tax heretofore collected (including penalty and interest with respect thereto, if any) shall be refunded in accordance with the provisions of law applicable in the case of erroneous or illegal collection of the tax. No interest shall be allowed or paid on the amount of any such refund. No payment shall be made under title 11 of the Social Security Act with respect to services rendered prior to January 1, 1946, which are described in paragraph (16) of section 209 (b) of such Act, as amended.

SEC. 6. International organizations shall be exempt from all property taxes imposed by, or under the authority of, any Act of Congress, including such Acts as are applicable solely to the District of Columbia or the Territories.


41 posted on 12/21/2009 3:02:22 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Naziism, Communism and Terrorism, War has not solved anything)
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To: helpfulresearcher

Here is my take on it:

International Organizations Immunities Act, December 9, 1945 made “international organizations” immune from taxation and discovery.

Reagan’s EO made Interpol an official “international organization” but not immune from taxation and discovery.

Obama’s EO made Interpol immune from taxation and discovery.

Thus anything in Interpol’s files cannot be gotten at by legal process. Anyone accused by Interpol cannot use legal process against it to defend himself.

Any analysis from Freeper lawyers out there?


42 posted on 12/21/2009 3:16:33 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Naziism, Communism and Terrorism, War has not solved anything)
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To: helpfulresearcher
International organizations shall be exempt from all property taxes imposed by, or under the authority of, any Act of Congress, including such Acts as are applicable solely to the District of Columbia or the Territories.

So an 'international organization' doesn't pay property tax? Where do I sign up? The Bahamas?

43 posted on 12/21/2009 3:17:03 AM PST by x_plus_one (Even the Russian online newspaper Pravda featured a column about "the man with no visible past.")
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To: Impy; TigersEye; floriduh voter; snippy_about_it; ovrtaxt; syriacus; TigerLikesRooster; ...

An INTERPOL branch in the US now cannot be searched, it’s files are not subject to legal subpoena nor discovery. If any branch of government wants to keep documents out of the hands of the court system, just hand them over to INTERPOL until the smoke clears.

INTERPOL will now be able to maintain files on US citizens.

By this EO, Obama has conferred diplomatic immunity upon INTERPOL, exemption from being subject to search and seizure by law enforcement, exemption from US taxes, and immunity from FOIA requests, etc.


44 posted on 12/21/2009 3:43:19 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: American Dream 246
And here we thought the BATFE was the "new" Gestapo.
45 posted on 12/21/2009 3:47:18 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: American Dream 246

Obama is the Pres_ _ent of all who are corrupt,
slaver, terrorist, pirate, and criminal.
He is their King.


46 posted on 12/21/2009 3:51:49 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Carry_Okie

“immune from search”

sounds like creating a state within a state.


47 posted on 12/21/2009 3:54:05 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: American Dream 246

Perhaps INTERPOL has notified Obama they have
material on his birth in Kenya and on terrorists
who have infiltrated America.

Obama wants info on both covered up.


48 posted on 12/21/2009 4:11:23 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: American Dream 246

NOT ONLY could Interpol maintain secret files on us! They will be able to arrest and hold Americans on unspecified charges with impunity!

Hey, hey, BHO.....!
Where did all your spending go?


49 posted on 12/21/2009 4:17:56 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: helpfulresearcher

Since when does the president, little p, have the authority to over ride the Constitution, most notably, amendments 4, 6, and the 14th? Seems to me if states cannot disenfranchise aliens from benefits because the constitution confers on them protections because they are in the US, the same rationale applies to organizations stationed here. If not, why not.

Better get ready to start voting with your trigger fingers before the international community disarms lawful Americans.


50 posted on 12/21/2009 4:24:29 AM PST by Mouton
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