Climategate Recalls Attacks on Darwin Doubters

Human Events ^ | 12/22/2009 | Dr. Stephen C. Meyer

[SeekAndFind]

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[Moonman62]

He mentioned Darwin ten times, but didn’t mention the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis one time.

[tacticalogic]

It will, of course, be considered inadmissible that ToE recalls attacks on the “Galileo Doubters”.

[allmendream]

Yes, and apparently being an Astrophysicist makes one an “evolutionist”.

Being ANY type of real scientist must, because creationism is antithetical to the scientific method; and creationists must lie about science out of necessity; trusting that their target audience is, as a group, the most ignorant of science and the most bereft of education.

[junta]

The Left is comprised of superstitious kooks of the worst religion on the planet, Political Correctness. There disdain for Creationists is some phony vanity. All one has to do is mention genetic science and human bio-diversity and these emotionally stunted runts start trilling like terrorist supporting old women.

[SeekAndFind]

It will, of course, be considered inadmissible that ToE recalls attacks on the “Galileo Doubters”.

I don't think that's true at all. Even the Roman Catholic Church welcomes discussions and exchanges on Galileo. No historian is expelled or tenure revoked in regards to this matter.

[GodGunsGuts]

Your screenname says it all, Seek and FIND! Good job :o)

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

“Galileo Doubters”.

You mean the scientists of Galileo's day, right?

[SeekAndFind]

BTW, in regards to this statement from the article :

Released under the Iowa Open Records Act, e-mails from his fellow scientists at ISU showed how his department conspired against him, denying Dr. Gonzales tenure as retribution for his views.

For those of you who don't already know...

Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez is now Associate professor at the great undergraduate college -- GROVE CITY COLLEGE , where he has complete freedom to teach what he wishes. The school has been in existence for over 130 years.

The college acquired an observatory from Edinboro University of Pennsylvania in February 2008 that will be utilized for astronomy classes as well as faculty and student research. The observatory's telescope will be operated more than 60 miles away remotely from the college's main campus. The purchase of the property, three buildings and equipment inside will pave the way for the addition of an astronomy minor on campus. Through this observatory, the college's physics department plans to work with area public schools as well as other colleges and universities on educational and research projects and draw prospective students who are looking for strong physics programs and astronomy coursework.

Dr. Gonzalez actually works in this observatory. This is FYI.

Incidentally, Grove City College is one of the handful of colleges I know ( the other being Hillsdale College ) that REFUSES to take any Federal money whatsoever. Students who enroll and do not have enough money for their tuition are aided via PRIVATE scholarship grants. They don't want any government interference in what they do and how they educate their students.

[editor-surveyor]

All psuedoscience practitioners are brothers!

Climategate and evolutiongate are just two signs on the same ‘gate.’
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[editor-surveyor]

"But the scandal in at the University of East Anglia suggests that this consensus on climate may not be based on solid evidence."

This is why I've come to despise Human Events. - "may not?" - There is not a shred of their 'consensus' that has any relationship whatsoever to science. (is there a new discipline of science called Hoaxology?) - Why do these writers lack any vestige of a spine?

[tacticalogic]

You mean the scientists of Galileo's day, right?

Some were. A lot of others, not so much.

[GSWarrior]

Please don’t equate AGW non-believers with biblical literalists.

[SeekAndFind]

Please don’t equate AGW non-believers with biblical literalists.

If you bothered to read Stephen Meyer he is NOT a biblical literalist at all. He is a Darwin Doubter.

Not all doubters of Darwin's theory are biblical literalists.

[GSWarrior]

Not all doubters of Darwin's theory are biblical literalists.

That is a relief.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[cookcounty]

The two are linked.

Distrust over "Science Says" in in the public mind in regard to AGW will inevitably lead to an erosion of public support for "Science Says" in the Evo-Creo catfight.

Evolutionists who have doubts about AGW should speak up if they expect to dominate the "origins" field in the public's consiousness as much as they do now. They will pay a price for their apparent lack of critical thinking skills.

[OldNavyVet]

The following, that somewhat supports creationism, is from page 70 of "Darwin's Ghost" by Steve Jones.

Natural selection is a machine that makes almost impossible things. Consider a typical protein such as whale myoglobin. That molecule is but one of a hundred thousand or so proteins in the animal’s body and contains a hundred and fifty-three units called amino acids. These come in about twenty forms. The number of possible combinations of amino acids in a structure the size of myoglobin is hence twenty raised to the power of a hundred and fifty three. The figure, ten with about two hundred zeros after it, is beyond imagination and is far more than all the proteins in all the whales, all the animals and all the plants that have ever lived. Such a molecule could never arise by accident. Instead, a rather ordinary device, natural selection, has carved out not just myoglobin but millions of other proteins and the organisms they build.

[piytar]

“Modern Evolutionary Synthesis”

Got a good link for that? Somewhat interested in this topic, not rabid either way. Do see a problem with just random mutation plus natural selection creating a functional 750 megabyte piece of code (est of info content of human DNA) even over billions of years. That’s why I think the modern ToE is at least missing some parts. My hunch is that there is some evironment->genetic code feedback process we don’t understand yet.

(For the record, I see evolution as the tool God used to create us and other life. Uh oh, probably offended both hard core evolutionists and hard core creationists with that one!)