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Glad to see the Boy Scouts presenting the colors and standing for patriotism.
1 posted on 12/24/2009 7:08:05 AM PST by fgoodwin
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To: SandRat

Can you ping your Scouting list?


2 posted on 12/24/2009 7:10:01 AM PST by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Life Scout!)
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To: fgoodwin
What's wrong with telling him to Go To Hell?!!!

I would!!

3 posted on 12/24/2009 7:12:14 AM PST by PALIN SMITH (Show them our respectable contempt!)
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To: fgoodwin

Wow....another ignoramus named Barry.


4 posted on 12/24/2009 7:12:38 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: fgoodwin

“A study from last year, The American Religious Identification Survey, indicates that 15 percent of Americans aren’t religious. “

so to hell with the 85% of us that are religious...??!! hell no, go pound sand....


5 posted on 12/24/2009 7:14:12 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: fgoodwin
“It is inappropriate for the school board to ask atheists to stand and proclaim they are ‘under God,’” said Barry, a self-proclaimed atheist.

Then exercise your right to free speech by not standing and STFU.

6 posted on 12/24/2009 7:14:17 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: fgoodwin

How about “School Board tells atheist to shove his suggestion up his Obama?”


7 posted on 12/24/2009 7:14:25 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: fgoodwin

A man asserting that there is no God, using inalienable rights endowed by God to claim that he shouldn’t be forced to recognize God when pledging allegiance to a republic who derives it’s basis in law from the Bible.


9 posted on 12/24/2009 7:16:35 AM PST by americanophile (Merry Christmas!)
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To: fgoodwin

“The words ‘under God’ in the pledge are offensive to your atheist residents in this school district,” Yep all one of them


10 posted on 12/24/2009 7:19:40 AM PST by exbrit
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To: fgoodwin

Anti US jerkwads living in the US have no negative effects when they impinge upon our rights. Used to they would be dealt with in such a way they would keep their mouths shut and do what the majority wished for; now the ACLU bats for the minority to oppress the majority.


11 posted on 12/24/2009 7:21:40 AM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: fgoodwin

I would go ahead and recite the pledge anyway...Who says that any member of that board has to do anything in regards to that issue...

Just someone, before they start the meeting, needs to recite it out loud...And when they are done, start yer damn meeting...

I have a city counselman who starts his meetings in the district with a prayer...No ifs ands or buts...Without fail...They are his meetings with the public, and if you don’t like the way he opens them, tough sh!!te...

Doesn’t sound very Christian-like for me to be this way, but I kinda like to see someone squirm under the officiating nature of prayer...

If you don’t like the pledge of alligience, or a prayer to God to bless the proceeding, then don’t come to the meeting...

If you feel oppressed or discriminated against, fine, live with it...The same could be said of the athiest who want to discriminate against us for wanting to put everyones mind in the right frame to conduct civil business...

Funny thing to note though...I find that Republican and conservative meetings often hold to opening their meetings with prayer and the pledge...On the other hand I find out when I go to Democrat or liberal meetings for the same purpose, they often do not open with anything other than the official getting up and starting...

I am not offended if they do not do it, so therefore if you are an athiest or liberal attending a function by a conservative, seems to me you need to deal with it as well...

If you don’t like it, shove off...


12 posted on 12/24/2009 7:24:06 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: fgoodwin

Sounds like, if 25% are “nonreligious”, then 75% are religious. A clear majority. Keep the Pledge.


15 posted on 12/24/2009 7:33:22 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: fgoodwin

One person’s dissatisfaction should have no bearing on a majority opinion. If the majority votes then that vote should stand especially when it comes to values such as religion and patriotism. The Boy Scouts of America is a fine organization and helps build boys into men. I used to be both a Boy Scout and an Explorer Scout and I am proud to have been among their membership. They helped me understand the difference between being a boy and what it means to be a man and I will forever be grateful to them. They taught me about what it means to be independent, how to survive in the wilderness, teamwork, and a sense of morality, justice and duty. I also was a choirboy and an altar boy early in life too and all these things helped transform me into an independent individual, dependent on no one but my own self for my survival. And they also gave me a sense of self worth and pride in accomplishment that can be found in so few places nowadays. The Boy Scouts is like a prerequisite for military training.


16 posted on 12/24/2009 7:33:57 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: fgoodwin

How can he be offended by something that doesn’t exist?


17 posted on 12/24/2009 7:36:40 AM PST by AU72
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To: fgoodwin
By they same line of thinking, if atheists are offensive to Christians can we make them stay away from school board meetings?

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

18 posted on 12/24/2009 7:37:09 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: fgoodwin

The pledge was drafted in virtually its present form in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, an unapologetic socialist who had been pushed out of his position as a Baptist minister because his sermons reflected more socialism than Gospel. Francis was cousin to Edward Bellamy, who wrote the 1888 utopian socialist novel Looking Backward, which I had to read in college in a class on utopian thinking. I guess it was valuable to know that to Bellamy utopia meant a highly regimented place where all incomes were equal and men were drafted into the state’s “industrial army” at age 21 and did whatever the state decided they should do. It helped to cement my distaste for such a system.

After being kicked out of the pulpit Francis Bellamy went to work for a magazine called Youth’s Companion, and decided to work through the public schools rather than the church to advance his notion of a socialist worker’s paradise. The Pledge was unquestionably part of this campaign. Bellamy even recommended that the ceremony start with a military salute and “At the words, ‘to my Flag,’ the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, towards the Flag, and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation.” For better or worse (and to be fair, long after Bellamy’s recommendation) the Nazis adopted this same salute. It was quietly dropped from American practice, but the intention was similar – to encourage a quasi-religious subordination to government.

In a country founded on “unalienable rights” of individuals, in which the government’s job is supposedly to “preserve these rights” and not much else, the government should be pledging allegiance to citizens and their rights, not the other way around.

It is curious that people who call themselves conservatives now consider this overtly socialist inducement to state-worship part of the sacred tradition of liberty and justice.


19 posted on 12/24/2009 7:39:38 AM PST by all the best
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To: fgoodwin
“The words ‘under God’ in the pledge are offensive to your atheist residents in this school district,”

Too bad, so what, f*** off. Take your pick

25 posted on 12/24/2009 8:03:18 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: fgoodwin

I am on the school board in my county. We say the pledge and pray before our board meetings. I intend to keep it that way with my vote.


29 posted on 12/24/2009 8:24:17 AM PST by Lauderdaleandbeyond
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To: fgoodwin

No Barry.. the pledge is not irrelevant to the Scool Boards meeting. It it Showing respect to the Nation. I might add that your objection is disrespectful, uncivil, and irrelevant.


32 posted on 12/24/2009 9:52:59 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: fgoodwin

No Barry.. the pledge is not irrelevant to the School Boards meeting. It it Showing respect to the Nation. I might add that your objection is disrespectful, uncivil, and irrelevant.


33 posted on 12/24/2009 9:54:11 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: fgoodwin

I have better idea for the other 85% of residents of this particular district how about if they do what the 15% want you all decide not to pay your property taxes next year and vow to vote down any and all school bonds from here on out?


36 posted on 12/26/2009 11:06:16 AM PST by chris_bdba
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