Radio Host Delilah Pulls Kids from Crosspoint Academy, Claiming School Teaches Veiled Mormonism

Kitsap Sun ^ | Dec. 25, 2009 | Marietta Nelson

[Elsie]

Show me the truths you believe and not the lies you know I believe.

There is NO way for us to know which lies you believe.

We can, however, shown some LIES of your Leaders: would THAT help any?

[Elsie]

 

Are any of the statements below wrong? If so, how are they wrong and will you correct them and/or expound upon them for me.

"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, revelators' of the church, is cultivating the spirit of apostasy. One cannot speak evil of the lord's anointed... and retain the holy spirit in his heart. This sort of game is Satan's favorite pastime, and he has practiced it to believing souls since Adam. He {Satan} wins a great victory when he can get members of the church to speak against their leaders and to do their own thinking."

"When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan--it is God's Plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give directions, it should mark the end of controversy, God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the kingdom of God."

Ward Teachers Message, Deseret News, Church Section p. 5, May 26, 1945
Also included in the Improvement Era, June 1945 (which was the official church magazine before the Ensign)

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"Always keep your eye on the President of the church, and if he ever tells you to do anything, even if it is wrong, and you do it, the lord will bless you for it but you don't need to worry. The lord will never let his mouthpiece lead the people astray."

LDS President Marion G. Romney (of the first presidency), quoting LDS President (and prophet) Heber J. Grant "Conference Report" Oct. 1960 p. 78

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"The Lord Almighty leads this Church, and he will never suffer you to be led astray if you are found doing your duty. You may go home and sleep as sweetly as a babe in its mother's arms, as to any danger of your leaders leading you astray, for if they should try to do so the Lord would quickly sweep them from the earth."

Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 9, p. 289, 1862.

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"When the Prophet speaks the debate is over".

N. Eldon Tanner, August Ensign 1979, pages 2-3

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"I sat in this tabernacle some years ago as President Joseph Fielding Smith stood at this pulpit. It was the general priesthood meeting of April 1972, the last general conference before President Smith passed away. He said: 'There is one thing which we should have exceedingly clear in our minds. Neither the President of the Church, nor the First Presidency, or the united voice of the First Presidency and the Twelve will ever lead the Saints astray or send forth counsel to the world that is contrary to the mind and will of the lord'."

L. Aldin Porter of the Presidency of the First Quorum of Seventies (Ensign, Nov. 1994, p. 63)

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"Follow your leaders who have been duly ordained and have been publicly sustained, and you will not be led astray."

Boyd K. Packer (General Conference, Oct. 1992; Ensign, Nov. 1992)

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"The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray."

President Wilford Woodruff (considered scripture as it is canonized at the end of the D&C)

[Elsie]

 

Okay MHGinTN, if you think that I’m asking the wrong questions about your beliefs, could you please start the discussion?

 

 

I'll still play!

 

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KJV

 Galatians 1:6-9

 6.  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
 7.  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 9.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 

 

 

 

ANYBODY???

 

Like this fine looking fellow???

 

 

 

 

 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15

 12.  But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
 13.  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 15.  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

 

Like THESE guys??

 

 

 

 

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19

 

 

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

 

 

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Ephesians 2:1-2 

1.  And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

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1 Corinthians 4:17
  For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

 

2 Timothy 1:13
   Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

 

2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
 15.  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[urroner]

So Elsie, in the spirit of openness and TRUTH, why don't you show me truths from the Bible, truth to the validity or invalidity to the statements I made to the person from Tenneessee, in lieu of showing me lies?

Everybody is telling me where not to go, but nobody is telling me where to go...well, other than to Hell.

I think I'm seeing a repeating pattern here:

1. Everybody tells me I need to accept the truth of accepting Jesus. 
2. I agree that everybody needs to accept Christ.
3. Everybody tells me to read the Bible.
4. I say I have read the Bible, several times in fact.
5. Everybodys tell me that I don't understand the Bible and throws lots of scriptures in front of me saying that the Bible is easy to understand.
6. I ask for the meaning of these scriptures thrown in front of me.
7. Everybody respond by throwing lots of evil Mormon lies in front of me and tell to to reject those evil Mormons lies, but to accept Biblical truth.
8. I ask what these truths are.
9. Some condemn me for asking questions.
10. GOTO 1

I ask for truth here and it seems that people avoid it like a plague. Is this how Christians are suppose to treat others?

[MHGinTN]

“I ask for truth here and it seems that people avoid it like a plague. Is this how Christians are suppose to treat others?” You’re a liar at heart. You came on this thread spoiling for a tussle, plain as day, and when someone shows you the simple truth of salvation you try to twist the message into something complex and convoluted. You’re just a liar now, playing at victim. Typical really ...

[greyfoxx39]

I ask for truth here and it seems that people avoid it like a plague.

No, you are playing a little game and believing you are getting away with it.

In fact, you have given us countless opportunities to post mormonism facts and quotes from mormon leaders that can be seen by lurkers as false and un-Christian doctrine.

None of the Inmans fell off a turnip truck.

[ejonesie22]

Oh the irony in that statement....

[Graybeard58]

Mormons do not believe the same thing Christians do.

A kind way of putting it but an understatement to be sure.

[svcw]

Was it a dead family?

[svcw]

Truth? There is no truth in mormonism.

[urroner]

I ask for bread and I get a stone to eat before getting pelted with more stones by those who are perfect.

I ask questions and people avoid them.

I hold my hand out and my face gets slapped.

Is this what Christ has taught you?

You accuse me of having an agenda, yet you all also have an agenda.

Isaiah 52:7
How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, “Your God reigns!”

I have yet to see any beautiful feet around here. I only see feet that attempt to stomp on me and kick me out.

[MHGinTN]

Ah yes, the victim card. So mormonism esque don’tchaknow. And the poster even use Satan’s pleas without realizing he’s directing the posts. We’ve seen this behavior from Delphi User, Restornu, Tantiboh, and others, so often it no longer has effect. The evil one uses that pleading to justify abortion, too, as an act of avoiding negative consequences ‘to give the murdering feamle another chance to be good’ don’tchaknow. Your morg really ought to try something new. But then the father of lies has been using the same proven methodology for thousands of generations he’s led astray, ever since he duped Eve.

[svcw]

Oh come on. Is it possible for one person to be more of a whinny victim?

[Vendome]

My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right—and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight .... He again forbade me to join with any of them (Joseph Smith 2:18-20).

 

“... the religions of the day were hatched in hell. The eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and then kicked on to the earth. They may be called cockatrices, for they sting wherever they go.- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 6, p. 176, January 17, 1858

 

“Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was sent of God to reveal the holy Gospel to the children of men, and lay the foundation for gathering Israel, and building up the Kingdom of God on earth, that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist.”- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 176, September 9, 1860

 

Isn't that a bit messianic?

 

and to the rest of the post "Uhm, Wow!?"

 

More than arrogance rules the Lives of LDS.

 

Thank you for your post.  Now I know where they get it from.

 

[greyfoxx39]

I only see feet that attempt to stomp on me and kick me out.

[Elsie]

You left out Subroutine 9a:

SUB9a:
Delete MORMONism from MEMORY
RETURN

[Elsie]

I ask for the meaning of these scriptures thrown in front of me.

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[Elsie]

I fell off the graden tractor while pulling the Halloween train around the farm...

[Elsie]

I fell off the garen tractor while pulling the Halloween train around the farm...

[Elsie]

I fell off the garden tractor while pulling the Halloween train around the farm...

(Are you seeing TRIPLE yet?)