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Pope Benedict XVI: we must all go green to save the planet
U.K. Telegraph ^ | 1-1-10 | Nick Squires

Posted on 01/01/2010 1:45:09 PM PST by TitansAFC

He said people needed to change how they live their lives and called for "ecological responsibility" to be taught in schools.....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1tim47; benedict; climatechange; environment; globalism; globalwarming; green; nwo; politician; pope; religiousleft; vatican
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To: gunnyg

Dere be some politiks that do overlap into da church—like free rubbers, abortions, etc.—but he best not be stirring up the out-and-out nwo issues!


21 posted on 01/01/2010 1:56:45 PM PST by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'n Commie Basterd!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
What could be wrong with the pope interjecting that we should take care of our earth? Look at the mess the dems left after the inauguration of our leader. And look how nicely the same grounds were taken care of by the tea party folks. Of course, we should be going green. Recycle, compost heaps, dump the chemicals and bring on a more organic way of raising crops is good as well ... (my brother-in-law runs an organic farm ... the food is absolutely incredible and the land isn't hampered by chemicals).

pope = good great man!
22 posted on 01/01/2010 1:57:25 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: P-Marlowe

The pope should preach Christ crucifixion and resurrection instead of the green hoax.


23 posted on 01/01/2010 2:00:37 PM PST by tractorman
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To: TitansAFC
Many on this forum were ecstatic when this Pope came into office. I didn't see why.

The minute I heard that he was opposed to the War in Iraq I had him pegged.

This is further proof that he leans pretty far left. Very poor choice to base his New Year's Speech on the environment. Should have spoken about individual freedom instead.

24 posted on 01/01/2010 2:00:41 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: TitansAFC

The Pope is often misunderstood by the common newspaper reporter.

Example one is when the Pope called for the consideration of Natural Law. http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features2007/schall_benxvinatlaw_oct07.asp

Benedict especially lamented the failure to “recognize that the innate dignity of every individual rests on his or her deepest identity — as image of the Creator — and therefore that human rights are universal, based on the natural law.”

Just as you work to protect the natural world from exploitation, Benedict told the young, you also must defend the dignity of the unborn, elderly and poor from those who fail to recognize the human person as the pinnacle of the created world.


25 posted on 01/01/2010 2:00:45 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: TitansAFC
For example, I remember a conversation that I once had with a guy who worked in Ticonderoga, NY at a factory. The factory was on the the beautiful Niagara River. The guy actually said to me that "he just lets the chemical waste RIP into the Niagara River because it is cheaper to pay the fines than to dispose of the waste." This is a true story.
26 posted on 01/01/2010 2:01:19 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: EBH

Ooops! The next entry was Example 2.

The Pope is very clear, it is the media who distorts.


27 posted on 01/01/2010 2:02:16 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: steve86
An objective shared by all, an indispensable condition for peace, is that of overseeing the earth's natural resources with justice and wisdom.

I'm all for not grossly wasting the resources that we've identified and started exploiting, but when someone starts talking about justice in relation to someone else's resources, it typically means the next idea will be a calling to give said resources to others who had no part of discovering and exploiting said resources.

Perhaps I'm just being picky here.

28 posted on 01/01/2010 2:02:21 PM PST by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: TitansAFC
How about the world going Godly to save the planet--works for me.

vaudine

29 posted on 01/01/2010 2:03:59 PM PST by vaudine
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To: kingu
I'll be waiting for the PM from you when, in fact, the Pope tells us to "give said resources to others who had no part of discovering and exploiting said resources".

Not gonna hold my breath, though.

30 posted on 01/01/2010 2:05:12 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: mlizzy
Recycle

Some recycling is economical and some is not. To endorse "recycling" as a general concept is senseless.


compost heaps, dump the chemicals and bring on a more organic way of raising crops is good as well

Of course, chemicals must be used responsibly, but to disparage their use is to ignore economic reality. Periodic starvation has been the norm since the beginning of humanity, yet modern agricultural techniques have completely eliminated starvation for hundreds of millions of people worldwide. Feel-good wishful thinking has not.

31 posted on 01/01/2010 2:07:55 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: EBH
The only thing out of the Vatican web site today was this:
from the Vatican
Did a web translation... don't see anything.
32 posted on 01/01/2010 2:08:04 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: TitansAFC
Maybe the Pope does not want black soot on his beautiful white outfit. Viva il Papa!!!


33 posted on 01/01/2010 2:09:44 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: kingu
give said resources to others who had no part of discovering and exploiting said resources.

And once that happens, people stop discovering and exploiting resources, retarding human progress.

34 posted on 01/01/2010 2:11:39 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: TitansAFC; All

The Pope is distinguishing the differences between “polution” and “glpbal warming”...Lest everyone jump off to the wrong conclusion there is a link to his 07 new years message message printed in the same paper in this article dubunking CO2 causing global warming in http://www.theusmat.com/


35 posted on 01/01/2010 2:13:50 PM PST by mosesdapoet ( What did Obama's UK's first trip and his curious entourage of 500 cost US ?)
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To: TitansAFC

The Bible teachers that God has put humanity in charge of the earth with the role of stewards. That means that it is our job to look after the animals and other creatures that God made.

We have permission, since the Flood, to kill and eat animals. But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t treat them fairly and treat God’s whole creation as true stewards should.

In other words, I doubt very much whether the Pope gave some sort of politically correct Green speech. I imagine he simply repeated what Christianity—both Catholic and Protestant—has alwauys taught. That God has given us the responsibility of caring for the other creatures of this world.


36 posted on 01/01/2010 2:16:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mlizzy
yeah but the news is reporting we need to change our lives for the environment.. bla bla The pope didn't say that.
I posted what he said... which is more in the line of what you said.
37 posted on 01/01/2010 2:19:30 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: TitansAFC

Being “good stewards” in the biblical sense does not mean embracing econut junk science fraud theories. I fear the pope has fallen for the latter while believing it is the former.


38 posted on 01/01/2010 2:20:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I absolutely think organic gardening and recycling are two great ways to help save the earth. The pope didn't really elaborate on his message, and I realize chemicals have produced more food, albeit lower quality in regard to nutritional positives, which in turn causes dis-ease, which in turn ... and so on, and so on ...

Christ didn't mean for us to dump a bunch of chemicals on His earth and expect wonderful pluses to come from it. If that's feel good wishful thinking, you'll have to bring it up with Our Creator. I've always felt a greener existence is a more Godly existence. Eaten both ways for numerous years, organic foodstuffs are tastier, more nutritious, and (if you're knowledgeable in organic gardening, which can easily be taught) easy to produce, even on a big scale.
39 posted on 01/01/2010 2:22:22 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: StandUpChuck

And what is your excuse? You are just accepting that a British tabloid is actually repeating what the pope said without researching his actual words and meaning.
Since when do the liberal media report fairly?


40 posted on 01/01/2010 2:24:57 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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