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Pastor James Manning accuses Columbia University of treason. Obama never went to the school.
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Posted on 01/11/2010 5:35:53 PM PST by Mozilla

Pastor James David Manning, one of President Obama’s most vocal and outspoken critics, has just released a video yesterday in which he is charging Columbia University with treason and is taking them to court. Pastor Manning alleges that Obama never went to the school and that he actually bought the degree. Pastor Manning states that Obama was instead in Afghanistan during the period of time from 1981 to 1983, working for Al Qaeda, when Obama was supposedly attending Columbia.

Most of what we know about Barack Obama comes from Chicago corruption trial transcripts, Illinois records such as the IL bar, internet data that has not yet been scrubbed and his autobiography, Dream of My Father. But, Obama has kept hidden most of the records of his life. As noted by websites like World Net Daily, other documentation not yet available includes Obama's kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, his adoption records and ,of course, his Birth Certificate.

Obama certainly has some connection to Columbia University. Obama was given a diploma and grades from Columbia sufficient to allow him to enter Harvard. However, since Obama has employed many private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records, we have no proof of his grades or even his attendance and graduation. In Fact, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students, back in 2008, from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root,a former presidential candidate, was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, “I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia . Ever! Nobody recalls him. I’m not exaggerating, I’m not kidding.”

Obama’s photograph does not appear in the school’s yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia.

So then, What do we know of Obama being enrolled in, graduating from or otherwise being associated with Columbia University? Hardly nothing!

Pastor Dr. James Manning of Atlah Ministries in Harlem, New York City further states that Columbia University is helping to cover-up the lies for Obama and thus he has sued them and taken them to court.

Pastor James Manning: Columbia University treason


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; columbiau; columbiauniversity; conspiracytheory; highereducation; jamesdavidmanning; manning; obama; obamasecrets; pastor; revjamesmanning; revmanning; unhingedcrank
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To: Kleon
After listening to the video, I'm not sure Pastor Manning said he was trained by la qaeda in 1981, just that he is now an al qaeda operative. There were training camps in Pakistan in 1981, but they would not have been al qaeda, yet. Mujahadeen, maybe, but not al qaeda.

Sadly, I'm beginning to wonder about Pastor Manning's sanity. The allegation against Columbia is very serious, accusing them of selling Soetoro/Obama a degree.

101 posted on 01/11/2010 8:14:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: rlmorel

That drek may have been generated by a societ operative and given to Barry for forwarding to publication as yet another piece of fabricating his ‘history at Columbia’. Nothing about this affirmative action lying bastard in the White House is as it appears. Nothing!


102 posted on 01/11/2010 8:16:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: rlmorel; jessduntno
If zero wrote that... I wrote the whole New Testament!

Nada. That twerp didn't write that!

103 posted on 01/11/2010 8:20:49 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: little jeremiah

Not to worry, I posted it below.


104 posted on 01/11/2010 8:22:30 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
"“Barack Obama was programmed for years by his atheist, Muslim father, by the communist sex pervert Frank Marshall Davis, by con man Tony Rezko, by domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and others – most of all by black liberation theology screamer Jeremiah Wright. Obama’s resume is largely manufactured. There is a total blackout on his college years. His campaign obscures what he did as a “community organizer.” All his radical associations are denied or minimized. His miserable legislative record, voting “present” over 100 times to avoid taking a stand), his lack of achievement” He is truly the Manchurian candidate. "

I'm very aware of the massive voids in his history. It stinketh . . . Nonetheless, if Rev. Manning is serious about going after Columbia I hope he has more than suspicions, or he won't get far.

105 posted on 01/11/2010 8:25:09 PM PST by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: Kleon

Community organizing. On the job training.


106 posted on 01/11/2010 8:51:12 PM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: shield

OK. Extremely crazy. Alleging Columbia allowed him to claim he attended when he didn’t to cover up time allegedly spent in the ME is ridiculous.


107 posted on 01/11/2010 9:04:54 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000

He may not have attended Columbia...but a school in Russia...no one not one person remembers him AT ALL...at Columbia...something is very very fishy about the impostor and Columbia University.


108 posted on 01/11/2010 9:13:16 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: BossLady

God Bless the good Pastor.


109 posted on 01/11/2010 9:29:56 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: mojitojoe

It just isn’t natural how those two men are sitting together.


110 posted on 01/11/2010 9:31:06 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: matt1234

That is kind of creepy, that photo.


111 posted on 01/11/2010 9:32:06 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Prole

What a model student.


112 posted on 01/11/2010 9:42:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: matt1234

Count the fingers on the hand/s on the Paki’s knee. More than one hand there. Snuggle bunnies.


113 posted on 01/11/2010 9:43:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: mojitojoe

The hearts are a nice touch.


114 posted on 01/11/2010 9:48:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

I never noticed the fingers before. Thanks for pointing that out. Can’t tell for sure. Need a higher quality image.


115 posted on 01/11/2010 9:49:16 PM PST by matt1234
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To: matt1234; maggief

There was a thread or two a while ago whereon people including maggief (hope I got her name right) blew it up and you could count NINE fingers on that hand/s on the Paki’s knee.

Yup.

They’re holding hands.


116 posted on 01/11/2010 9:50:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: MHGinTN

Our current commander in chief should be referred to as ‘Thing’ until we find out who he really is and where he came from.


117 posted on 01/11/2010 10:42:01 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: rlmorel
What a bunch of hooey!

I wonder if he ever registered for the Draft,,,,,I bet not.

118 posted on 01/11/2010 10:49:59 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Prole

Your reaching for something that isn’t there. Good luck with that.


119 posted on 01/11/2010 11:11:23 PM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Hey Rahm. How are you?


120 posted on 01/12/2010 1:50:46 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: little jeremiah
"They’re holding hands."

It looks to me like Barry has his left hand on his own thigh. That said, I don't know any (sober) straight guys who would sit that close together, at least not American guys. Very odd image.

121 posted on 01/12/2010 3:32:00 AM PST by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: little jeremiah
Count the fingers on the hand/s on the Paki’s knee. More than one hand there. Snuggle bunnies.

Are those the rest of Obama's fingers under his right boot?

122 posted on 01/12/2010 4:06:30 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: goseminoles

Manning is getting more traction than orly taitz. Manning invented the MacDaddy epithet for you know who.


123 posted on 01/12/2010 6:03:15 AM PST by x_plus_one (Even the Russian online newspaper Pravda featured a column about "the man with no visible past.")
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To: Drew68
I'm surprised that a squirrel hasn’t collected Manning for the winter.
124 posted on 01/12/2010 6:18:03 AM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Peter Libra

Good Points!


125 posted on 01/12/2010 6:18:35 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: All; LucyT; null and void

Thanks for the ping to this, Lucy!

A lot of people on this thread are dismissing what Manning is saying because he named Al Qaeda and they weren’t organized until 1988 (at least not *officially*). I hope people read this, and understand what Manning is saying is entirely possible. He could be referring to the group that eventually became the *main* Al Qaeda branch under Bin Laden himself, or any number of smaller groups/camps in operation at that time (and still today).

Al Qaeda as an organization may not have officially declared itself as such until 1988, but there is no doubt there were many radical Islamic terrorist groups in existence WAY before that. Al Qaeda itself is, shall we say, a “Parent Corporation” - an “organizing group” much like some of the liberal political organizing groups we see here in the US. It is actually made up of many smaller radical groups throughout the world (Some groups incidentally being in Kenya, Indonesia, Afghanistan & Pakistan - just to name a few places).

Not all of these smaller groups even acknowledge their links to Al Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood, but they are there. Al Qaeda is like a “Networking Group”, and they supply funds, and materials for these smaller groups. These groups may look to Al Qaeda for leadership and their spiritual guidance in their jihad, but they exist on their own as well....

I hope I explained this well enough. All one has to do is go to the State Dept. Webpage, or do a google search for [IIRC - it’s been a long time since I visited the site] the “Terrorist Encyclopedia” or perhaps the “Terrorism Encyclopedia” and you will have access to more information on known terrorist groups than you can imagine.

Now, I don’t know if Manning is right or wrong about these charges. Perhaps he has found some kind of evidence that he is not revealing at this point? I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt - for all the outspoken-ness and his willingness to put his reputation, freedom and life on the line I think he at least deserves the benefit of a doubt on this action, IMHO.

I do admit that it’s hard for me to see how he could sue a college and charge them with treason — that’s a criminal charge, not one to be heard in Civil Courts (at least that’s my non-lawyer beliefs on this — meaning I could be wrong). I will say I haven’t watched the video yet (computer isn’t liking it right now.) So, maybe he explains all of those things in his video - could be. :)

Now, I’m aware of a trip Obama took to PAKISTAN supposedly during this time, but this is the first I’ve heard mention of Afghanistan, personally. IIRC, Obama spoke of this trip in his book and said he was visiting the family of his college roommate there (can’t remember if it was a roommate from Occidental, or Colombia).

I know it was definitely Pakistan that he admitted to visiting right around this time. Which honestly makes me hope Manning has his ducks in a row on this and isn’t making a fatal error by mixing up the country! On the other hand, for all we know Obama could very well have traveled to Afghanistan FROM Pakistan during that time. If one was going to attend a terrorist training camp it was probably the route of choice, frankly... Slip over the border, no passport needed — especially if you were seeking entrance to a terrorist training camp. Perhaps Manning has found a former terrorist or something that remembers Obama going to “camp” with him and is a little miffed at him for not completely abandoning the US’s support for Israel, and going up against Iran??? I suppose stranger things have happened.

There are definitely people out there in the world that know Barack’s secrets. He will eventually tick off the wrong person and his house of cards will come tumbling down around him (at least I pray that will be the case, and sooner vs. later).


126 posted on 01/12/2010 7:07:31 AM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: mojitojoe; little jeremiah

I posted a comment at #176 you may be interested in. It’s probably stuff you both already know, though...

If I’m not mistaken the guy in the picture Siddiqui(sp?) is the one I was referring to in my post - the one who he went with to Pakistan to visit his family during the summer break (or something like that according to Obama’s book).

Sadly, people are going to dismiss a lot of what Manning is saying because he used the name “Al Qaeda” which wasn’t *officially* an entity until 1988. What people are forgetting is that Al Qaeda (like the Muslim Brotherhood) are made up of many smaller groups - some that existed way before the *organization* really got started by Bin Laden. It’s not as if he was doing nothing before 1988 though...

Then again, most of the people I see on this thread that are dismissing Manning’s charges are the same folks who consistently dismiss any and all charges against Obama that are even remotely related to Certifigate... So, it’s not surprising really that they would be here saying these things on this thread... I don’t know if Manning is right or wrong on these particular charges, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being. JMHO.

[Hope you both are doing well. :) ]


127 posted on 01/12/2010 7:25:45 AM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: mojitojoe; little jeremiah

I meant post #126, not 176 — sorry about that. The post I refer to is actually directly before the one I sent to the two of you. :)


128 posted on 01/12/2010 7:29:39 AM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Mozilla

GO MANNING GO!

STE=Q


129 posted on 01/12/2010 8:37:26 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
Barack Obama was programmed for years by his atheist, Muslim father

LOL. An "atheist Muslim." That's a new one. Where did you get it? Was it listed as an example under oxymoron in the dictionary?

130 posted on 01/12/2010 9:27:05 AM PST by curiosity
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To: BIGLOOK
I recall that the Class President at Columbia during the years that Obama was there, stated that he'd never met him .....and he knew everybody in the class.

I seriously doubt it. A typical graduating class was around 700 students (it's more now). It's very unlikely anyone, even someone social enough to be elected class president, would personally know everyone in the class.

This is especially true of commuter students, like Obama, who lived off campus and didn't participate much in extracurricular activities.

131 posted on 01/12/2010 9:31:00 AM PST by curiosity
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To: jq2
Is Columbia allowed to release the college records?

Nope. No college is.

132 posted on 01/12/2010 9:34:42 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
"Is Columbia allowed to release the college records?

Nope. No college is."


Thanks for confirming.

So what can he sue for? If he takes them to court and they are not allowed to release any records, what's the expected outcome?
133 posted on 01/12/2010 9:54:12 AM PST by jq2
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To: Palladin

LOL!


134 posted on 01/12/2010 10:02:56 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Sioux-san
We also know from Barry’s own mouth that he travelled to Pakistan back when Americans weren’t allowed to go there in the 1980s,

Americans were certainly allowed to travel to Pakistan then. The State Department merely issued an advisory that Americans needed to get a 30-day visa before they arrived. That has morphed into an internet rumor that there was a travel ban.

135 posted on 01/12/2010 10:09:25 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: LibertyRocks

Thanks, Liberty Rocks. I also share your thoughts as a definite possibility. And some people may think Manning is nuts because of his demeanor but I think he is a brave man, also a possibility he may have evidence he is not detailing.


136 posted on 01/12/2010 10:13:32 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: LibertyRocks

I hope you are well, too!

(My motto: Never a dull moment.)


137 posted on 01/12/2010 10:15:33 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: danamco
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski visiting 'his boy', Osama Bin Laden, in training with the Pakistan Army, 1981.Photo originally scanned from the New York Village Voice. PhotobucketPhotobucket
138 posted on 01/12/2010 10:21:15 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: jq2
So what can he sue for?

Beats me.

If he takes them to court and they are not allowed to release any records, what's the expected outcome?

The same outcome that can be expected in all these crazy birther lawsuits: dismissal.

139 posted on 01/12/2010 10:21:45 AM PST by curiosity
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To: little jeremiah
also a possibility he may have evidence he is not detailing.

I sure he has.

I'm also sure he owns a certain bridge in New York that you might be interested in buying.

140 posted on 01/12/2010 10:23:58 AM PST by curiosity
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To: little jeremiah

They are holding hands.


141 posted on 01/12/2010 10:24:42 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: LibertyRocks

I’m not going to dismiss anything until it is proven false. I wouldn’t put anything past the usurper in chief. I know he is hiding things in his past and present. Many have already been exposed. It’s only a matter of time before he is busted.


142 posted on 01/12/2010 10:34:49 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: curiosity; Las Vegas Ron; LucyT; BP2; MHGinTN; little jeremiah; Candor7; Fred Nerks; ...

Your profile page is full of incorrect statements, propaganda and lies. You belong over at DU or KOS. You’re one of them.


143 posted on 01/12/2010 10:42:20 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: curiosity
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144 posted on 01/12/2010 10:46:00 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

I wonder where one becomes ‘an economist’ who cannot spell simple words and has so little objectivity?


145 posted on 01/12/2010 10:49:26 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: curiosity
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146 posted on 01/12/2010 10:55:52 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

This is before the bongs were popular???


147 posted on 01/12/2010 11:00:16 AM PST by danamco
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To: mojitojoe

Crystal clear.


148 posted on 01/12/2010 11:28:30 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: LibertyRocks

“I don’t know if Manning is right or wrong on these particular charges, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being.”

Many of us who yawn at this stuff are not as swayed by conspiratorial speculation as others. When this type of stuff is posted about Sarah Palin or any conservative you care to name, we are rightly dismissive. Post about BHO or WJC and we allow conspiracy on top of innuendo on top of speculation. Facts seem to be the missing ingredient. It’s as interesting as a Charlie Sheen lecture on 9/11.


149 posted on 01/12/2010 11:29:17 AM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: Leonard210

Shilling for 0bama will get you nowhere, other than high fives from other shills.

0bama and Clinton have shady backgrounds, associations and leftist ideologies. They are not the same kind of people as Palin, for instance.

Your boy is going to go down, hard. Too many people know crap about him and sooner or later, the dam will break. Ha ha.


150 posted on 01/12/2010 11:32:23 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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