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Pastor James Manning accuses Columbia University of treason. Obama never went to the school.
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Posted on 01/11/2010 5:35:53 PM PST by Mozilla

Pastor James David Manning, one of President Obama’s most vocal and outspoken critics, has just released a video yesterday in which he is charging Columbia University with treason and is taking them to court. Pastor Manning alleges that Obama never went to the school and that he actually bought the degree. Pastor Manning states that Obama was instead in Afghanistan during the period of time from 1981 to 1983, working for Al Qaeda, when Obama was supposedly attending Columbia.

Most of what we know about Barack Obama comes from Chicago corruption trial transcripts, Illinois records such as the IL bar, internet data that has not yet been scrubbed and his autobiography, Dream of My Father. But, Obama has kept hidden most of the records of his life. As noted by websites like World Net Daily, other documentation not yet available includes Obama's kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, his adoption records and ,of course, his Birth Certificate.

Obama certainly has some connection to Columbia University. Obama was given a diploma and grades from Columbia sufficient to allow him to enter Harvard. However, since Obama has employed many private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records, we have no proof of his grades or even his attendance and graduation. In Fact, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students, back in 2008, from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root,a former presidential candidate, was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, “I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia . Ever! Nobody recalls him. I’m not exaggerating, I’m not kidding.”

Obama’s photograph does not appear in the school’s yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia.

So then, What do we know of Obama being enrolled in, graduating from or otherwise being associated with Columbia University? Hardly nothing!

Pastor Dr. James Manning of Atlah Ministries in Harlem, New York City further states that Columbia University is helping to cover-up the lies for Obama and thus he has sued them and taken them to court.

Pastor James Manning: Columbia University treason


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To: little jeremiah
"They’re holding hands."

It looks to me like Barry has his left hand on his own thigh. That said, I don't know any (sober) straight guys who would sit that close together, at least not American guys. Very odd image.

121 posted on 01/12/2010 3:32:00 AM PST by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: little jeremiah
Count the fingers on the hand/s on the Paki’s knee. More than one hand there. Snuggle bunnies.

Are those the rest of Obama's fingers under his right boot?

122 posted on 01/12/2010 4:06:30 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: goseminoles

Manning is getting more traction than orly taitz. Manning invented the MacDaddy epithet for you know who.


123 posted on 01/12/2010 6:03:15 AM PST by x_plus_one (Even the Russian online newspaper Pravda featured a column about "the man with no visible past.")
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To: Drew68
I'm surprised that a squirrel hasn’t collected Manning for the winter.
124 posted on 01/12/2010 6:18:03 AM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Peter Libra

Good Points!


125 posted on 01/12/2010 6:18:35 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: All; LucyT; null and void

Thanks for the ping to this, Lucy!

A lot of people on this thread are dismissing what Manning is saying because he named Al Qaeda and they weren’t organized until 1988 (at least not *officially*). I hope people read this, and understand what Manning is saying is entirely possible. He could be referring to the group that eventually became the *main* Al Qaeda branch under Bin Laden himself, or any number of smaller groups/camps in operation at that time (and still today).

Al Qaeda as an organization may not have officially declared itself as such until 1988, but there is no doubt there were many radical Islamic terrorist groups in existence WAY before that. Al Qaeda itself is, shall we say, a “Parent Corporation” - an “organizing group” much like some of the liberal political organizing groups we see here in the US. It is actually made up of many smaller radical groups throughout the world (Some groups incidentally being in Kenya, Indonesia, Afghanistan & Pakistan - just to name a few places).

Not all of these smaller groups even acknowledge their links to Al Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood, but they are there. Al Qaeda is like a “Networking Group”, and they supply funds, and materials for these smaller groups. These groups may look to Al Qaeda for leadership and their spiritual guidance in their jihad, but they exist on their own as well....

I hope I explained this well enough. All one has to do is go to the State Dept. Webpage, or do a google search for [IIRC - it’s been a long time since I visited the site] the “Terrorist Encyclopedia” or perhaps the “Terrorism Encyclopedia” and you will have access to more information on known terrorist groups than you can imagine.

Now, I don’t know if Manning is right or wrong about these charges. Perhaps he has found some kind of evidence that he is not revealing at this point? I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt - for all the outspoken-ness and his willingness to put his reputation, freedom and life on the line I think he at least deserves the benefit of a doubt on this action, IMHO.

I do admit that it’s hard for me to see how he could sue a college and charge them with treason — that’s a criminal charge, not one to be heard in Civil Courts (at least that’s my non-lawyer beliefs on this — meaning I could be wrong). I will say I haven’t watched the video yet (computer isn’t liking it right now.) So, maybe he explains all of those things in his video - could be. :)

Now, I’m aware of a trip Obama took to PAKISTAN supposedly during this time, but this is the first I’ve heard mention of Afghanistan, personally. IIRC, Obama spoke of this trip in his book and said he was visiting the family of his college roommate there (can’t remember if it was a roommate from Occidental, or Colombia).

I know it was definitely Pakistan that he admitted to visiting right around this time. Which honestly makes me hope Manning has his ducks in a row on this and isn’t making a fatal error by mixing up the country! On the other hand, for all we know Obama could very well have traveled to Afghanistan FROM Pakistan during that time. If one was going to attend a terrorist training camp it was probably the route of choice, frankly... Slip over the border, no passport needed — especially if you were seeking entrance to a terrorist training camp. Perhaps Manning has found a former terrorist or something that remembers Obama going to “camp” with him and is a little miffed at him for not completely abandoning the US’s support for Israel, and going up against Iran??? I suppose stranger things have happened.

There are definitely people out there in the world that know Barack’s secrets. He will eventually tick off the wrong person and his house of cards will come tumbling down around him (at least I pray that will be the case, and sooner vs. later).


126 posted on 01/12/2010 7:07:31 AM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: mojitojoe; little jeremiah

I posted a comment at #176 you may be interested in. It’s probably stuff you both already know, though...

If I’m not mistaken the guy in the picture Siddiqui(sp?) is the one I was referring to in my post - the one who he went with to Pakistan to visit his family during the summer break (or something like that according to Obama’s book).

Sadly, people are going to dismiss a lot of what Manning is saying because he used the name “Al Qaeda” which wasn’t *officially* an entity until 1988. What people are forgetting is that Al Qaeda (like the Muslim Brotherhood) are made up of many smaller groups - some that existed way before the *organization* really got started by Bin Laden. It’s not as if he was doing nothing before 1988 though...

Then again, most of the people I see on this thread that are dismissing Manning’s charges are the same folks who consistently dismiss any and all charges against Obama that are even remotely related to Certifigate... So, it’s not surprising really that they would be here saying these things on this thread... I don’t know if Manning is right or wrong on these particular charges, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being. JMHO.

[Hope you both are doing well. :) ]


127 posted on 01/12/2010 7:25:45 AM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: mojitojoe; little jeremiah

I meant post #126, not 176 — sorry about that. The post I refer to is actually directly before the one I sent to the two of you. :)


128 posted on 01/12/2010 7:29:39 AM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Mozilla

GO MANNING GO!

STE=Q


129 posted on 01/12/2010 8:37:26 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
Barack Obama was programmed for years by his atheist, Muslim father

LOL. An "atheist Muslim." That's a new one. Where did you get it? Was it listed as an example under oxymoron in the dictionary?

130 posted on 01/12/2010 9:27:05 AM PST by curiosity
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To: BIGLOOK
I recall that the Class President at Columbia during the years that Obama was there, stated that he'd never met him .....and he knew everybody in the class.

I seriously doubt it. A typical graduating class was around 700 students (it's more now). It's very unlikely anyone, even someone social enough to be elected class president, would personally know everyone in the class.

This is especially true of commuter students, like Obama, who lived off campus and didn't participate much in extracurricular activities.

131 posted on 01/12/2010 9:31:00 AM PST by curiosity
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To: jq2
Is Columbia allowed to release the college records?

Nope. No college is.

132 posted on 01/12/2010 9:34:42 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
"Is Columbia allowed to release the college records?

Nope. No college is."


Thanks for confirming.

So what can he sue for? If he takes them to court and they are not allowed to release any records, what's the expected outcome?
133 posted on 01/12/2010 9:54:12 AM PST by jq2
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To: Palladin

LOL!


134 posted on 01/12/2010 10:02:56 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Sioux-san
We also know from Barry’s own mouth that he travelled to Pakistan back when Americans weren’t allowed to go there in the 1980s,

Americans were certainly allowed to travel to Pakistan then. The State Department merely issued an advisory that Americans needed to get a 30-day visa before they arrived. That has morphed into an internet rumor that there was a travel ban.

135 posted on 01/12/2010 10:09:25 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: LibertyRocks

Thanks, Liberty Rocks. I also share your thoughts as a definite possibility. And some people may think Manning is nuts because of his demeanor but I think he is a brave man, also a possibility he may have evidence he is not detailing.


136 posted on 01/12/2010 10:13:32 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: LibertyRocks

I hope you are well, too!

(My motto: Never a dull moment.)


137 posted on 01/12/2010 10:15:33 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: danamco
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski visiting 'his boy', Osama Bin Laden, in training with the Pakistan Army, 1981.Photo originally scanned from the New York Village Voice. PhotobucketPhotobucket
138 posted on 01/12/2010 10:21:15 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: jq2
So what can he sue for?

Beats me.

If he takes them to court and they are not allowed to release any records, what's the expected outcome?

The same outcome that can be expected in all these crazy birther lawsuits: dismissal.

139 posted on 01/12/2010 10:21:45 AM PST by curiosity
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To: little jeremiah
also a possibility he may have evidence he is not detailing.

I sure he has.

I'm also sure he owns a certain bridge in New York that you might be interested in buying.

140 posted on 01/12/2010 10:23:58 AM PST by curiosity
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