Are you folks sure this isn't Cedric...
This is one I'd like to stay a distance from, so when it blows sky high,
I don't get any duck juice on me. ;-)
And I was havin' so much fun until I found that Al Qaeda
didn't come into existence until 1988.
So when did Columbia U come into existence? Just checkin'. Heh heh heh...
Thanks for the ping to this, Lucy!
A lot of people on this thread are dismissing what Manning is saying because he named Al Qaeda and they weren’t organized until 1988 (at least not *officially*). I hope people read this, and understand what Manning is saying is entirely possible. He could be referring to the group that eventually became the *main* Al Qaeda branch under Bin Laden himself, or any number of smaller groups/camps in operation at that time (and still today).
Al Qaeda as an organization may not have officially declared itself as such until 1988, but there is no doubt there were many radical Islamic terrorist groups in existence WAY before that. Al Qaeda itself is, shall we say, a “Parent Corporation” - an “organizing group” much like some of the liberal political organizing groups we see here in the US. It is actually made up of many smaller radical groups throughout the world (Some groups incidentally being in Kenya, Indonesia, Afghanistan & Pakistan - just to name a few places).
Not all of these smaller groups even acknowledge their links to Al Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood, but they are there. Al Qaeda is like a “Networking Group”, and they supply funds, and materials for these smaller groups. These groups may look to Al Qaeda for leadership and their spiritual guidance in their jihad, but they exist on their own as well....
I hope I explained this well enough. All one has to do is go to the State Dept. Webpage, or do a google search for [IIRC - it’s been a long time since I visited the site] the “Terrorist Encyclopedia” or perhaps the “Terrorism Encyclopedia” and you will have access to more information on known terrorist groups than you can imagine.
Now, I don’t know if Manning is right or wrong about these charges. Perhaps he has found some kind of evidence that he is not revealing at this point? I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt - for all the outspoken-ness and his willingness to put his reputation, freedom and life on the line I think he at least deserves the benefit of a doubt on this action, IMHO.
I do admit that it’s hard for me to see how he could sue a college and charge them with treason — that’s a criminal charge, not one to be heard in Civil Courts (at least that’s my non-lawyer beliefs on this — meaning I could be wrong). I will say I haven’t watched the video yet (computer isn’t liking it right now.) So, maybe he explains all of those things in his video - could be. :)
Now, I’m aware of a trip Obama took to PAKISTAN supposedly during this time, but this is the first I’ve heard mention of Afghanistan, personally. IIRC, Obama spoke of this trip in his book and said he was visiting the family of his college roommate there (can’t remember if it was a roommate from Occidental, or Colombia).
I know it was definitely Pakistan that he admitted to visiting right around this time. Which honestly makes me hope Manning has his ducks in a row on this and isn’t making a fatal error by mixing up the country! On the other hand, for all we know Obama could very well have traveled to Afghanistan FROM Pakistan during that time. If one was going to attend a terrorist training camp it was probably the route of choice, frankly... Slip over the border, no passport needed — especially if you were seeking entrance to a terrorist training camp. Perhaps Manning has found a former terrorist or something that remembers Obama going to “camp” with him and is a little miffed at him for not completely abandoning the US’s support for Israel, and going up against Iran??? I suppose stranger things have happened.
There are definitely people out there in the world that know Barack’s secrets. He will eventually tick off the wrong person and his house of cards will come tumbling down around him (at least I pray that will be the case, and sooner vs. later).