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Mother Faces Charges For Cursing At Principal
MyFox NY ^ | 13 Jan 2010 | CORA-ANN MIHALIK

Posted on 01/13/2010 11:27:21 AM PST by Sopater

Edited on 01/13/2010 12:11:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A New Jersey woman is in court Wednesday for a disorderly conduct charge after she cursed out a middle school principal.

Cindy Schwalb says a boy pulled down her 13-year-old daughter's sweatpants in front of other students at Hasbrouck Heights Middle School.


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School officials said the meeting wasn't the place for Schwalb to express her concerns.

Luongo said, "Parents should be smarter than that."


Only gay bullying is to be discussed?
1 posted on 01/13/2010 11:27:25 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Good grief..


2 posted on 01/13/2010 11:30:03 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Sopater

Silly parent . . . doesn’t she know that she has no First Amendment rights when confronting public officials


3 posted on 01/13/2010 11:31:01 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: Sopater

Mom, get yourself a good lawyer, and sue the pants off them, including the dumba$$ cop!


4 posted on 01/13/2010 11:31:13 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“I believe in America.”


5 posted on 01/13/2010 11:33:03 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sopater
Schwalb says she became enraged when the district superintendent starting asking her questions, including one about whether her daughter was wearing a thong.

Superintendent Joseph Luongo says it was a fair question, "I had to find out what body parts were actually revealed."

I don't have a 13-year-old daughter, but if I were in that mother's position, I'm pretty sure they would be charging me with more than just cursing at the guy.

6 posted on 01/13/2010 11:33:12 AM PST by phrogphlyer (Sarah 2012!)
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To: metmom

ping...


7 posted on 01/13/2010 11:34:22 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
...sue the pants off them...

Good one. And the article says the cop was on the board.

8 posted on 01/13/2010 11:34:27 AM PST by phrogphlyer (Sarah 2012!)
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To: Sopater

Nothing new under sharia law. She’s lucky she wasn’t stoned to death for forcing the man hand upon her.


9 posted on 01/13/2010 11:34:54 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Sopater

Since when is cussing out an agent of the govt. “disorderly conduct”?


10 posted on 01/13/2010 11:35:55 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: phrogphlyer

“Parents should be smarter than that.”

He needs to be brought up on charges of using his position as an officer for the purpose of harrassment at the behest of board members...

I’m sure the priciple and the officer discussed it...that amounts to conspiracy and probably an open meetings voilation as well...

Petty tyrannts need to be reminded WHO they work for...


11 posted on 01/13/2010 11:38:24 AM PST by Crim
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To: Scotsman will be Free

When a cop is on the school board?


12 posted on 01/13/2010 11:39:18 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: phrogphlyer

At the very least, were this my daughter, Mr. Luongo’s remarks would have taken me to the school board to file charges against him, and to ask for an inquiry into his background as a potential pedophile.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 11:41:51 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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14 posted on 01/13/2010 11:42:02 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sopater

The principal had it coming.

Again, this is not an offense that deserves an arrest.

Do they arrest and charge all the kids that cuss and swear at each other in the halls?

What about the kids who cuss a teacher out to his or her face?

What about arresting the principal and charging him as a sexual offender for his questions about her daughter?

Why are public school officials immune to the consequences of behavior that would land anyone else in jail, or have kids taken from their parents by social services?


15 posted on 01/13/2010 11:46:15 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: phrogphlyer

This guy needs a date in the parking lot with the girl’s Dad and a 2by4.


16 posted on 01/13/2010 11:46:43 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Sopater

“School officials said the meeting wasn’t the place for Schwalb to express her concerns.”

Of course not. No need for everybody at the meeting to know what is going on at school. The right place is a private office where you can express your concerns, but nothing will be done. That’s what the school admin wants to do for you...nothing.


17 posted on 01/13/2010 11:47:55 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Recess should be fun


18 posted on 01/13/2010 11:49:43 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: AtlasStalled

Silly parent....she institutionalized her child in a government school.


19 posted on 01/13/2010 11:52:39 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Sopater
I guess I wouldn't think that disorderly conduct could be charged unless it was witnessed by law enforcement. This will get dismissed.
20 posted on 01/13/2010 11:52:54 AM PST by stormer
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To: massgopguy
I believe in America

You found paradise in America. You had a good trade, you made a good living. The police protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me.

21 posted on 01/13/2010 11:52:54 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Westlander

whats going on there?


22 posted on 01/13/2010 11:57:00 AM PST by musicbymuzak
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To: Sopater

The board sounds like a bunch of Obama voters that need to be taught a lesson.


23 posted on 01/13/2010 11:58:26 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sopater

There is no law against swearing. I’m assuming there is more to this story.


24 posted on 01/13/2010 11:59:44 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Sopater
Too many variables left out. Was the girl a bully?...you know we have lots of them these days. Kids have ways of retaliating.

With the way the Mom used the forum, I'd say it's a high probability.

That said, this is a mess. It's a lawyers field day. I'm not a judge, but in our area a kid could have been sued for sexual harassment over this. People had better be careful before they conclude anything. Too much is not clear.

25 posted on 01/13/2010 12:07:18 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Sopater

Why would an adult want to know if a child was wearing a thong? That is questionable AT BEST. She needs to get her daughter out of that school.


26 posted on 01/13/2010 12:09:37 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Some people just need a hug. You know who you are!)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Especially since that article states that the school board seminar was about bullying.


27 posted on 01/13/2010 12:10:09 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: stormer
According to the article: Detective Sgt. Joseph Rinke, who also sits on the school board, filed the report.
28 posted on 01/13/2010 12:11:44 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

And jackass school superintendents should be smarter than to ask what kind of underwear the girl was wearing. Makes him sound like some kind of a perv. Why didn’t the cop advise the mother to bring charges?

The county school superintendent might be investigating this to see if the school ignored state harrassment policies. What a bunch of imbeciles.


29 posted on 01/13/2010 12:22:05 PM PST by goldi (')
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Because he was elected to it. Any idiot can be on a school board in NJ. You just have to be a citizen, maybe be able to read a little.


30 posted on 01/13/2010 12:23:49 PM PST by goldi (')
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To: Sopater

My Mother used to curse me on behalf of the Principal. But none of my Principals acted like pedophiles at school board meetings.


31 posted on 01/13/2010 12:26:57 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: thethirddegree

Take the principal out in a cornfield and find out what kind of underwear he is wearing - let him walk home in them.


32 posted on 01/13/2010 12:38:29 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Sopater

Well that’s what I get for not reading the dumb thing.


33 posted on 01/13/2010 12:38:37 PM PST by stormer
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To: Sopater

Hoping the Mom sues the heck out of the district... then uses the money to send her kid to private school and laugh the rest of the way to the bank!


34 posted on 01/13/2010 12:43:16 PM PST by Ranger Warrior
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To: Oratam
You found paradise in America. You had a good trade, you made a good living. The police protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me.

"why do you treat me with such disrespect - you don't even think to call me godfather....."

nice

35 posted on 01/13/2010 12:45:00 PM PST by JD91
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the meeting wasn't the place for Schwalb to express her concerns

I would think you would usually have a meeting to be able to express you concerns to someone.

36 posted on 01/13/2010 12:48:06 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Sopater

How dare she question her masters. Nevermind if the kid had on a thong or not. Only a moron would think it would even matter to the situation and only a pervert would want to know the answer.


37 posted on 01/13/2010 12:53:19 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Yeah, they have a complaint department for that...


38 posted on 01/13/2010 12:54:56 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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“Makes him sound like some kind of a perv. “

No, it makes him a perv. Pulling someones pants down like this should result in sexual assault charges. Especially since it was done in a public venue.


39 posted on 01/13/2010 1:11:16 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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It’s none of the school official or board member’s business what the girl was wearing under those pants. The act of pulling her pants down was wrong. The boy should be the focus. The girl should not.

It doesn’t matter if the girl had shorts on, or if she had nothing on under those pants. That’s her business. She was covered up and another person decided to disrobe her. That’s not his choice to make, and it was abusive for him to do so.

The mother obviously didn’t get the issue addressed to her satisfaction at the school administration level, and she too it to the school board. That is exactly what she should have done.

If she couldn’t get it addressed there in a timely manner, then she should have read those officials the riot act.

There’s no excuse for what took place, and it should have been addressed in a serious manner immediately.

Failing to get it addressed at any level, she shold have filed some sort of litigation naming every board member and the upper staff at the school.

I’d like to see them laugh that off.

Isn’t it amazing the voice the idiotic left has, and the absolute lack of voice reasoned people have?

One parent can get a prayer struck down.

Another parent can’t get satisfaction when their daughter is disrobed.

What a F’d up nation ours has become.

Yeah, prosecute the mom. How dare she get angry and go to bat for her daughter. What a low life. /s


40 posted on 01/13/2010 1:28:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (God, Family, Friends, Home, Town, State, the U.S., Conservatism, Free Republic & a dollar a day...)
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This many posts and no one’s stated the obvious? If she’d been wearing proper clothing like slacks or even jeans, and a belt, it would’ve been considerably harder to divest her of the pants.


41 posted on 01/13/2010 1:42:43 PM PST by Fire_on_High (One Big Ass Mistake America!)
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To: goldi
"maybe be able to read a little."

Read??? - in Joisey??

42 posted on 01/13/2010 2:04:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Fire_on_High

So that makes it ok?


43 posted on 01/13/2010 2:05:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Sopater

Particularly when a cop is on the school board. He’s an agent of the govt X2. If I had arrested everyone who cussed me or someone else out I’d still be in court, and I retired four years ago.


44 posted on 01/13/2010 2:06:23 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Fire_on_High
This many posts and no one’s stated the obvious?

So it's "obviously" the girls fault she was de-pantsed?

Although I agree that sweat pants are not appropriate school attire for the classroom, it is not for any of the reasons that you have stated.
45 posted on 01/13/2010 2:15:58 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Fire_on_High

What makes sweat pants “improper”?


46 posted on 01/13/2010 2:23:52 PM PST by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: metmom

Because those public school officials are in positions of power of course.


47 posted on 01/13/2010 3:22:38 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: Fire_on_High

Maybe she was in gym class.


48 posted on 01/13/2010 4:02:56 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Fire_on_High

Actually I just watched the video and she was in gym class.


49 posted on 01/13/2010 4:04:27 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: musicbymuzak

I’ve seen that picture before. Apparently, it’s muzzies preparing to stone a woman for adultery.


50 posted on 01/13/2010 4:05:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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