Skip to comments.Arizona State University Forced to Stop Using Kindles Until They're Functional for Blind People
Posted on 01/14/2010 9:11:32 AM PST by rellimpank
Arizona State University has made a deal with the Justice Department to stop using popular electronic readers like the Kindle until they are made functional for the blind.
ASU is one of three universities participating in a pilot program that gave Kindles to students to see how they would work -- as opposed to actual books -- in the classroom.
The program started in May of 2009 and by June two different groups representing the blind got all butt-hurt and filed a lawsuit claiming that by using the devices, the universities were violating the Americans With Disabilities Act because they weren't easy for the blind to use.
Funny thing is that if the universities just kept the program a little hush-hush, the blind probably never would have known they were doing it. It's not like they can see students using Kindles.
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If one is crippled, all must be crippled.
And paper books are easier for the blind to use?
that sounds like a joke
Somebody help me out here. Ok, what do they give blind people in lieu of the regular textbooks? So, why can’t they just keep the status quo for the blind students and allow everyone else to use Kindles. They’re at no more of an disadvantage than they were before.
Well, there are keypads in braille on the DRIVE-THRU banking machines...
So if a blind person can’t use them then nobody can? Nice. Idiots.
this cannot possibly be serious
Counting down the time till the Justice Dept. goes after the automakers for not offering braille steering wheels and dashboards.
—in the same league as Braille at bank drive-up auto-tellers—
yep...the Justice dept is focused on things like this, while they bury things like voter intimidation by one of 0bama’s prefered community organizing groups
I guess then ZZ Top would have to drop “Arrested for Driving While Blind” from their set list.
So are regular textbooks also banned?
Aren’t “pilot programs” supposed to be used to see how things would work out? As such wouldn’t they be exempt, since the program would expose the short comings such as “accessability issues” ?
“Well, there are keypads in braille on the DRIVE-THRU banking machines...”
I hope there is a cop stationed at them and arrest anyone using one!!!!
They’ll be making the road sings in braille soon.
“And paper books are easier for the blind to use?”
Are TVs and video monitors banned as well?
sings = signs. I’m dylxseic today.
To introduce a note of levity here:
I went to a resort recently on my Harley and was invited to park my bike up a little ramp against a pillar.
A guest in a wheelchair complained bitterly about me doing that and threatened to have me fined, even though the ramp was not marked as a wheelchair ramp and led to nowhere in particular, except smack dab INTO the pillar.
But it was ENOUGH that it was a RAMP, and THEREFORE it BELONGED to the handicapped. LOL.
I love the people at the resort and go there frequwntly, so I moved the bike, but SHEESH!
Interestingly stupid. My son will go blind at some point in his life (genetics) and I bought him a Kindle 2 Christmases ago. Actually it was supposed to be a family gift - but he absconded with it and does ask when he wants to download another book. He loves the way the Kindle can “read” to him, and the capability of the Kindle to adjust font size depending on how tired his eyes are. He usually goes through several books a week - this can get quite costly and room consuming - so the Kindle kills many birds with one stone (just wish I could eat those birds - might be quite tasty).
Why don't they ban issuing licenses to sighted drivers until the roads are modified to accomodate blind drivers?
On the braille keypads at drive through ATMs, I believe that's done simply because they use the same keypads for the drive through and walk up ATMs. I don't know of any fast food restaurants that have a braille menu at the drive through. According to some articles I've read, very few blind people can read braille anymore.
Most likely, this lawsuit is being filed to force the manufacturer to make it an audible reading device where the user can plug in ear phones and have the book read to him or her.
I always found it odd that the signs in the DMV have braille on them. The first time I went to one (to get my learner’s permit) I noticed it next to the door for the test. I guess they must get a lot of blind people trying to get their driver’s license...
The Microsoft Reader has a nice function that actually reads the text to you. It’s not perfect, but it would offer the blind a nice alternative to having someone else read the information to them.
have to next ban radio as the deaf can’t hear it.
So the Kindle does have the reading capability, reading the text out loud to the user? If so, what the heck is the basis for this complaint?
What a crock.
Advancing technology is systematically changing the way universities approach education, but we must be sure that emerging technologies offer individuals with disabilities the same opportunities as other students," Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez said in a statement. "These agreements underscore the importance of full and equal educational opportunities for everyone."
Of course the article cleverly only gives the name of the local lackey and not the state's AG. Who are THE PEOPLE who made the ruling? Who is the AG, who was the STUPID, IDIOTIC, MORONIC JUDGE that agreed with this absurdity? They are fully insulated here, unfortunately.
I guess they must get a lot of blind people trying to get their drivers license...
They do and most live in Florida.
Granted, I graduated from BU in ‘80, but while I was in school the “gave” me nothing at all. All books were purchased with real cash money, and engineering texts weren’t cheap...
Besides, since they can’t actually read the screens, all they’d have to do is to show them how to use the ON/OFF button, then they’d be “equal” to everybody else.
I just received one as a gift and I’m pretty sure you can down-load books with sound. Depends on the book. Mine has a headphone pport.
This is absolutely absurd. Demanding that a DEVICE, as opposed to a building, be handicapped-accessible is ludicrous.
Do they demand the same of vehicles? ...chalk boards? ...projectors?
This ruling must have been pushed by those deaf people who are against surgery to restore some hearing to deaf kids. I can’t for the life of me understand why some people wouldn’t want the best quality of life for others.
Easy solution. Stop taking fed $$.
Tell the feds to shove their ideas right up their Obamas.
The loosing party in these Disability cases has to pay the attorney fees.
This is about lawyer fees.
paging the Handicapper General. . .
paging the Handicapper General. . .
Do not try to make sense out of liberalism and the scumbag Democrats.
Your head will explode.
it is done by those who want to hold to the concept that sign language culture is just another language like german, english, italian or spanish.
It's the very basis of liberalism - - equal misery.
If liberals must be humorless, bitter malcontents then so should everyone.
By the way, this kind of thing presents a window into the irrational liberal hatred for Sarah Palin. They hate Sarah Palin because she is a happy and sunny optimist, and she smiles a lot. It is nothing more than that. No joke.
Also, I think they hate her for the fact that she chose to keep a pregnancy that resulted in a ‘damaged’ child. In that respect they are as bad as Margaret Sanger.
There is no way to make a KIndle work for blind people! If they offer books on tape that is the option for blind people. Without a complete remodel to add sound which would probably make the KIndle too big they are unusable to blind people. Why is it that in every crowd there are one or two people who have to ruin things for everyone else?
The Kindle has that function, if the copyright owners agree to it.
Read-to-Me: With the experimental Text-to-Speech feature, Kindle can read newspapers, magazines, blogs, and books out loud to you, unless the book's rights holder made the feature unavailable ----snip ----
All computers should be banned for the same reason.
I once heard the answer to that question about braille in drive throughs. The answer is that those keypads are mass produced for many things, not just drive through ATMs, and the companies that produce them find it cheaper to use keypads with braille on drive through ATMs than order a different set.
Maybe it's time to get rid of cars, since the blind can't drive them. Or radios, since the deaf can't hear them.
Typical liberal mentality is actually hurting those he is trying to help:
Technological progress is the main way to increase the productivity of labor which increases accumulation of capital which increases total productivity which increases supply which lowers prices which raises the standard of living of everyone including those with disabilities.