Posted on 01/18/2010 12:51:42 AM PST by Nextrush
Dr. Martin Luther King "...did not want to be a saint or viewed as a saint. He was just a human being, capable of becoming and producing and leading his people out of the wilderness of segregation into the promised land..." (CSPAN Booknotes-Reverend Ralph David Abernathy 10/29/89)
When his longtime friend and closest associate, Reverend Ralph Abernathy, wrote about the "human side" of King in his 1989 autobiography ("And The Walls Came Tumbling Down") a firestorm was set off.
The King family and allies blasted Abernathy for several days in the mainstream media.
There was no internet or talk radio to consider the controversy or its origins.
Rev. Abernathy wrote of Martin Luther King as being human because he knew that King was in his description a "womanizer" in his private moments away from the pulpit and cameras.
These private moments had nothing to do with "racism", "justice", "hatred" or "equality." They weren't about "Civil Rights" either.
But they had everything to do with sex and lust.
One author, Charles Kaiser, offered this observation in his book "1968 In America." (page 135)
".....But the knowledge that almost nothing he did was truly private gnawed away at King. Like John Kennedy, he had a sexual appetite that could not be satisfied within the confines of his marriage, and like the late president, the risk of disclosure never led him to adjust his conduct."
That "risk of disclosure" began when the Kennedy Administration authorized the FBI to wiretap Dr. King's lawyer and eventually King himself in 1963.
Author Taylor Branch (a biographer of Bill Clinton's presidency ironically) wrote a few pages about Martin Luther King's sexual activities as gleaned from King's conversations with lawyer Clarence Jones in August 1963.
".....King had lowered his personal barriers to Jones, offering him the essential secrets of his private life. Unerringing, he chose to reveal himself to men and women who could absorb the news without developing blisters of unesasiness between them and him...They saw sexual adventure as a natural condition of manhood, or of great preachers obsessed by love, or of success, or of Negroes otherwise constrained by the white world, and they objected to King's mistresses no more than to the scores of concubines who had soothed King David during the composition of his Psalms....." (page 860, "Parting The Waters: America In the King Years 1954-1963)
In 1964, the FBI sent an audio tape of a Martin Luther King sexual encounter to his wife. Coretta Scott King's exact reaction really isn't known but she apparently felt that the cause was more important and the FBI was out to get her husband. Hints of Hillary Clinton's mindset here.
Author David J. Garrow wrote a book in 1981 titled "The FBI and Martin Luther King Jr., From "Solo" to Memphis."
Garrow, who is author of a number of books on King, used the description "compulsive sexual athleticism" to describe his personal life. King has numerous affairs including one with a woman he saw almost daily. Garrow said "that relationship, rather than his marriage, increasingly became the emotional centerpiece of King's life, but it did not eliminate the incidental couplings that were a commonplace of King's travels."
Garrow also noted that King's sex life caused him to have a "painful and overwhelming guilt."
Taylor Branch wrote of Dr. King's confidants reaction to his guilt.
".....Some of them grew tired of King's insistence that it was a sin, and his endless cycles from hedonism to self-recrimination and back." (page 860)
In 1977, a federal judge locked up the FBI files on their surveillance of Dr. King until 2027. No doubt, there are further revelations in those files.
For now, though, we know enough to draw the conclusion that Martin Luther King Jr. was in a league of sexual addiction that included two other 1960's historical figures who would meet a fate similar to his, John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy.
All three men would come to be revered with almost godlike status as martyrs for their era in history.
I have great sorrow when I consider the secret story of Martin Luther King's life.
Sexual addiction is a good description of it and I think this kind of "sickness" is something we don't want to face or talk about.
Tiger Woods appears to be facing his addiction right now and I wish him well.
As for Dr. King, his problem seems to be buried in a sea of idolization and denial.
There are too many cheerleaders (including conservatives) who want to join the praise and accolades.
As for me, I have to stand back and ask questions.
The questions go beyond this to the social and political aspects of MLK's life, but for this moment I choose to take note of the lust-sex addiction of Dr. King and ask how it can be reconciled to a national holiday and greatness.
When Dr. Martin Luther King and King Solomon met in glory, it surely was with a nod and a wink....
As to the question of "how", one way is by making the same asservations of George Washington, for one. The evidence for this is oblique, but it is enough to get one's attention. What is the true story there? I myself wonder.
I’m not sure about that, but Taylor Branch uses that “wink and nod” concept to describe how Ralph Abernathy, Andrew Young and other associates of Dr. King reacted to his sex habit.
There is a person’s work, and then there is the person. I think God has a lot of fun having obviously imperfect people to great works - it serves as an extremely efficient smack-down to moralists who would presume to judge the value of someone’s soul. In my experience, humility is taught in two methods - as a warning, and then if not heeded, as a demonstration. I believe Jesus, amongst many others throughout history, beseeched people to heed the first method, and thereby avoid the second. I believe lack of compassion is a sure sign the second method is eventually going to be required.
OK, a bad joke. Both would be cleansed saints at that point and no nodding or winking would actually happen. But King and Solomon could well say to each other “I know, that’s what happened when we thought with the wrong head.”
You might remember all the hullabaloo over Thomas Jefferson’s liasion with a slave and how it was made into a TV movie.
Is there any chance that this aspect of Martin Luther King’s life will ever be memorialized by the entertainment industry?
It would be a cold day in you know where for George Clooney and such to get behind such a project.
Beyond what you have said already, I have always made the following statements to myself and asked the following question of myself:
01. ) Every man and woman who has ever served in the U.S. military, both dead and survivors of wars, get one day per year, including all of the Medal of Honor winners.
02. ) All presidents, ( supposedly combined Washington’s and Lincoln’s birthday ) get one holiday.
Why does a black who was a hardcore conscientious objector, reference 01. ) above, and who never held any elective office, reference 02. ) above, get his own day?
Very tacky. This is about on par with saying Grant’s Tomb and the portrait on the Fifty Dollar Bill are to celebrate an alcoholic guy with bad cigar breath.
Wow, this is the first time I heard of this. What a pity! There are numerous other names which could be added to the list such as Michael Jackson, and Elvis Presley. The only one who ever lived a sinless life - Jesus Christ - is ridiculed.
Such a topsy, turvy world we live in where good is called evil, and evil - good.
I see a new federal holiday on the horizon - - December 30th.
Tiger Woods day!
Because King memorialized something that was worth memorializing in his (plagiarized but none the less true) “I Have A Dream” speech. If black communities would listen more to that and less to sex-and-violence rap today, they would go much further. For that reason I, a honky, say that it’s better that King have a day than not to have one.
We still have Christmas....
I like that response because it helps me to understand.
The media today treats sexual misconduct in general with open discussion and or disparagement especially if it involves a conservative or religious figure.
It seems to me that MLK hasn’t gotten his day in the sunshine on this conduct because of media bias and the desire of many to not talk about this kind of stuff.
The FBI apparently told its buddies in the media-government that MLK did like white women (just like Tiger) for his sexual encounters as well.
Because in 1983 a whole lot of politicians wanted to (surprise, surprise) pander to blacks, and so they passed this law. Enough time had gone by and King's legend had grown to where it seemed a benign enough gesture. The tragic assassination was, of course, the deal closer.
...Now known as "the holiday season".
At least his public persona (his sex mania notwithstanding) had some class. I could think of far worse figures to use for such “pandering.”
Except for that funny old Santa Claus who insists on going “Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas.” I guess he’s the only one still allowed to do so :-)
Dr. Martin Luther King “...did not want to be a saint or viewed as a saint. He was just a human being, capable of becoming and producing and leading his people out of the wilderness of segregation into the promised land...”
And Obama is reversing every bit of Kings work.
Both Kennedy’s and King were elevated to godlike status by the circumstances of their deaths.
In life, they were complex and controversial figures, but in death they achieved an unreal status.
A status as unreal as the double life sexual fantasy world all three inhabited.
Sexual Addiction is and has been hard for our culture to accept as a reality.
Yet with Tiger Woods and Bill Clinton as classic examples we find it hard to accept.
Read Patrick Carnes “Out of the Shadows” to discover why Tiger Woods is now in his care.
Addiction is addiction is addiction....there are just different routes.
The difference between Tiger Woods and Martin Luther King Jr. is that Tiger Woods’ accomplishment, like any sports or movie star is to get publicity and notoriety, while King’s and Kennedy’s fame is based on at least some substance. When bad pub washed away good pub, substance is what survives.
Uhh... if King was a minister of the gospel then he ought to have known, God’s purpose towards every Christian is for him or her to end up as a cleansed saint who shows God’s glory in heaven. Refusing that is refusing salvation. If King simply meant that he did not intend to present himself as being perfection here on earth, then he was on the money.
Obama, on the other hand, apparently does not have a problem with being idolized.
I was thinking along these lines when I saw the article title, Israel's vaunted missle shield 'flawed'. I was struck by the contrast with the valorization of the Haitian earthquake victims. Here we have nothing but the best words for people at the lowest ebb of human existence, and only the demurral, "flawed", for the achievements of a people who epitomize the highest pitch of human striving.
(In the Talmud, the term "evil inclination" (yetzer hara) is often used to mean the libido.)
There will be many who come to me in that day and say Lord, Lord and I will say, depart from me I never knew you.
or can any Christian break any of the Ten Commanents AS A LIFESTYLE and expect to be covered by Grace?
It’s argued over and over to people like you who never hear, but the only thing that matters is the God’s purpose towards the end state. Notice that the statement is “I never knew you” not “I knew you once then we broke off the relationship.”
Solomon had so many wives for political reasons. He needed to cement peaceful trade relations with neighboring tribes and states. What his sexual appetites were is not written in the Bible but he had did have a number of children who are named in the Book of Kings. He fathered fewer children than the great Saudi sheik to whom Obama bowed. How many children has Osama Bin Laden, BTW? Around 50, I believe.
Or is that the number of his sibs?
I have often wondered if MLK’s adulterous ways led to the opening the door to his early and untimely demise.
As you can see by the thread on this subject there is no mourning for Jerusalem and all that she is. The Laodecian church is blind, having a form of godliness but denying the power therein.
Respectfully, I think this is BS. Most, or at least many many men, have strong sexual desires, but they control themselves! They sacrifice their desires to what they think is right. And they are not so narcissistic and self-absorbed to focus only on what they want. The men mentioned are totally arrogant and self-focused. It is giving these jerks a pass to call it addiction. It is the human condition, with which most men have to deal. And most do a much better job of it than these did.
It would have been better to create a holiday called "Civil Rights Day," to honor King's accomplishments, and the accomplishments of many others. Perhaps that change can still be made.
Not PC,,,Sooooo,,,
The name was changed so it did not lay the blame on
people of weak will with no morals,,,
Every time King or the Kennedys opened their mouths it
empowered those little basturds that were tryin’ to kill me
and guys that were as close as a Brother to me,,,
TET ‘68 started 42 years ago the 31st. of Jan.24:00 hrs.
I never heard a word from King et al about the 6,000 people
that were murdered in Hue City alone,,,
(crabbyassed ol’man rant!)...:0(...
Sexual addiction my @ss. There is no such thing. He enjoyed sex, period. He didn't want to control himself.
From that great philosopher:
“Money for nothin, chicks for free”
I would suspect that Dr. King or any other sexually “addicted” individual didn’t have any more orgasms that a typical man. It’s just that he had his with real women and the typical man has his with a fantasy one (Mother Thumb and her four daughters). Sexual “addiction” is bunk.
“Respectfully, I think this is BS. Most, or at least many many men, have strong sexual desires, but they control themselves! They sacrifice their desires to what they think is right. And they are not so narcissistic and self-absorbed to focus only on what they want. The men mentioned are totally arrogant and self-focused. It is giving these jerks a pass to call it addiction. It is the human condition, with which most men have to deal. And most do a much better job of it than these did. “
I had to wade through a lot of crap to find the truth here.
That is the most disgusting comment I have ever read. There will be NO nods and winks over sin in heaven, just rejoicing over what we have been delivered from.
as a retired psychologist that specialized in the treatment of sexual addiction and who was trained by Patrick Carnes....I’ve seen things you obviously don’t want to come out of denial and see for yourself....
Its ok, the vast majority of America and the world don’t believe in addiction either....
Its one reason why the 12 steps only work 37 percent of the time.
Search engines will provide you with the TRUTH you don’t want to see....but obviously you won’t take the time to go there....
I’m not sitting here making this up.....I’ve treated hundreds of men and women for sex addiction....people who can’t stop behaviors that destroy their lives.
For God’s sake just look closely at Tiger’s destroyed life....
Lust to some people is as much a drug as heroin....
as I mentioned above....denial is rampant in our culture.
take a moment to type “sexual addiction” into any search engine....
I am going to report you to admin now as you have violated my personal boundaries and integrity.
You wrote: Lust to some people is as much a drug as heroin....
No, it isn’t, it’s just that some people aren’t averse to engaging in bad behavior and some people aren’t averse to excusing it.
The holiday for MLK came with bipartisan support in the early 1980’s including Ronald Reagan.
The lone voice against it came from Senator Jesse Helms of North Carolina. Another reason liberals hated his guts.
I’ve read that conservative Governor Meldrim Thompson of New Hampshire communicated his concerns about naming a national holiday for King.
I assume Thompson’s concerns were over the left-wing connections etc. although the conservative movement of the time was aware of this problem in at least a general way.
Reagan is said to have acknowledged Thompson’s concerns but his action was to join the overhwelming Congressional support for the King holiday.
Liberals and Conservatives often show their flawed nature with their resentment of other people or institutions that feed their desire to come out of reality to the “ideal.”
In social and political matters, the “ideal” is not reached, but drug use, alcohol use and sexual fantasy and sexual encounters get someone to a “land of impossible dreams.”
“I hsve a dream.......”
They are the maggot spawn of Affirmative Action and the War on Poverty that thrive off King's dead body.
In retrospect perhaps we need to ponder these questions.
“Is racism the problem?”
“Is socialsm the solution?”
It would have been better if Reagan supported a King holiday, but named it "Civil Rights Day," and not after King, given his many and serious character flaws and alleged communist connections. His legacy has not lived on to "judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin." With affirmative action quotas, and all of the reverse discrimination going on our lawmakers are doing anything but honoring King's true legacy.
Furthermore, we created a "Presidents Day" that downplays our greatest Presidents, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln should be honored for his civil rights accomplishments, along with King on "Civil Rights Day." And celebrate the founder of our country, George Washington, on his day. "Presidents Day" is too generic and a bad example for our teachers.
from wiki...On October 11, 1991, Swaggart was found, for the second time, in the company of a prostitute, Rosemary Garcia,[6] when he was pulled over by the California Highway Patrol in Indio, California, for driving on the wrong side of the road. According to Garcia, Swaggart stopped to proposition her on the side of the road. When the patrolman asked Garcia why she was with Swaggart, she replied, "He asked me for sex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a prostitute."
You are dead on.
Nobody can do anything about what Martin Luther King did or Bill Clinton did or what Tiger Woods did.
But they can do something about what they are doing right now with drugs, alcohol and lust.
It looks like Tiger has reached Step One of the twelve step program and admitted he has a problem with his lust.
People I know and or love are destroying their lives right before my eyes.
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