Skip to comments.Just say no to Senator McCain
Posted on 01/25/2010 1:35:14 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Folks, it's just as simple as this:
1) McCain is anti-free speech. The Roberts Court has declared McCain-Feingold, the ultimate self-serving pro-incumbency act, unconstitutional as we all knew it was from the start.
2) McCain supported and voted for the bailouts which are unconstitutional, anti-liberty, anti-capitalism, anti-free-markets, un-American and not only enabled, but swept the Marxist B. Hussin Obama into power.
3) McCain is pro-global warming which is unconstitutional, anti-capitalism, anti-free-economy, un-American and idiotic!
4) McCain is pro-amnesty for illigal aliens which is anti-capitalism, anti-liberty, un-American and idiotic!
5) Instead of fighting FOR us, FOR the Constitution and FOR Liberty, McCain chooses to join with the Democrats to fight AGAINST us and against Liberty at every chance he gets. He's a backstabber!! The enemy within!!
There are many other reasons to reject McCain but I believe the five listed above are reason enough.
McCain is anti-liberty, anti-capitalism, anti-constitution, anti-free-markets, pro-Big Government and willingly and knowingly passes liberty killing unconstitutional laws and therefore is not part of the solution; he is part of the problem. The problem is too much government and too little freedom and McCain is pro-Big Government. He is no conservative, not even a moderate. He's a progressive!!
Tea Partiers please take action against McCain. I'm only a day's drive from Arizona, so please let me know when and where and if at all possible, I'll be there.
Meanwhile, in this year of the Liberty-loving, anti-Big Government, anti-progressive-incumbent Tea Party, please send your support to the most viable challenger, J.D. Hayworth!!
Woo hoo!! GO JD!!
Rebellion is brewing!!
And, no, I don't hate Sarah for supporting McCain, but I sure hope she doesn't damage herself too badly. We need her in 2012! She just hasn't realized yet that the primary reason Joe Biden is sitting in her office in D.C. is JOHN MCCAIN himself!!
BTW, GO CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS!! Woo hoo!!
“Am I missing something? “
N O !!!!
Hard to believe ;-)
Uh, excuse me, sir. McCain is a globalist.
Execute your Prime Directive, and shoot yourself.... LOL!
McCain is a member of the establishment and must be removed. We cannot in good conscience see him returned to the senate. Arizona Democrats rarely run anyone of note against him, with a wink wink wink given that he’s their guy. Democrats love McCain. We have to get rid of him.
If South Carolina people don’t do the same with Lindsey Graham, we will never be rid of these people. We will get a knife in the back anytime we mount a charge. He must go. However it happens, we cannot vote for him. If a Dem wins, we fight that senator next time.
I sure do wish all the Palin and Scott Brown bashing threads would stop, though. It's gotten pretty crazy lately.
That was some outburst. McCain has very odd followers.
“That was some outburst. “
Yeah....if I want Pretzel Logic, I will listen to an old Steely Dan album ;-)
Jim I don’t know what you’re takng about, I’ve always supported the TP’s, it’s what we worked to accomplish in the Network for so many years. I attended my local event.
My only criticism was planning another big event in DC. I’ve said for years that all politics is local and that’s what they seem to be doing now so I think they are on the right track.
My other concern was this “leaderless” concept as it allows posers and riff raff to co-opt the name and message and/or divide them withpetty rivalries. But we still have to wait and see how that turns out.
Palin provides one hell of a boost to McCain's chances for re-election. And there are few greater obstacles to the conservative agenda than McShame himself. If she doesn't wake up in a timely manner and we end up saddled with the bozo for another 6 years, assuming he lives that long, I will commence to despising her. She will surely lose a lot of support come 2012.
Also I think this event goes a long way to what I have been saying are my fears about Palin support. For years McCain has been appropriately been the whipping boy of anti-RINO sentiment here on FR, particularly with Jim. To be honest, I was a little surprised of continued fervent support for her in this action. Knowing Jim's support of her I wouldn't expect him to toss her over but I would have thought a little more criticism of it would be in order.
If this was anyone except Palin, the criticism would have been high and hard. Why does she get a pass? My concern is that she will continue to get passes no matter what she does. The Palin support is all about image and symbolism, not substance and how long have we criticized that in politics?
Putting Palin high on a pedestal makes her out of reach of criticism and if we can't hold her feet to the fire (as we did with Bush over Meyers and immigration) then we lose all power as a constituency and voters over our leaders.
Bring Palin back down to earth, make her accountable for her actions as we do any other politician and if she is still standing tall after being put through the ringer than maybe she has what it takes to be president instead of just a pundit.
To be fair, at this point I still have my concerns. I don't believe she is ready, I'm not even sure she has what it takes. Time will tell but until then I'm not anointing Palin anything other than a potential and she is not going to get any free passes from me.
She is going to have to keep it on the straight and narrow but this endorsement of McCain sure looks like a veer into oncoming traffic to me.
Guess the tea party groups who planned the hugely successful DC Tea Party should’ve listened to your advice.
And not much anyone can do about the leaderless tea party movement. That’s the way the movement wants it. It’s totally grassroots and it flows with the political winds. Lots of people trying to get out in front of it, but I think it will continue rolling over, around or through them. Sometimes you just got to go with the flow.
Palin is a big girl and can take care of herself. She sure as hell is not going to listen to naysaying nincompoops in the peanut gallery. You just gotta let Sarah be Sarah.
Palin had two choices, support McCain or not support McCain. Is she were to come out publicly for Hayworth it would have justified and supported the image of her being a “rogue”. All of Palins rhetoric about working for the good of the country regardless of personal reward, taking on the bad guys in her own party, supporting basic conservative ideals and then turning that into supporting the right candidates who share those same beliefs, would have been consistent.
Yes she would have taken heat for not supporting the guy who asked her to be on his campaign team, but it would have been “the right thing to do” and cemented the impression of her in the mind of the electorate as someone with their own mind who was willing to buck powerful members of her own party and walking the walk instead of just talking the talk.
But Palin chose to support McCain. To me this was a clear indication that she intends on “playing the game” and it's back to politics as usual. I don't think we can expect many more “rogue” plays at this point. The die is cast.
For those who say she had no choice, baloney, this is the press release/speech I would have suggested.
“Today I am throwing my support behind JD Hayworth for Arizona Senator. Some will accuse me of not showing loyalty but after long and hard consideration I decided it was much more important to support the conservative ideals I hold and have pledged to pursue, which includes helping to elect strong conservative candidates that can assist in putting this great country back on the right track, even if that may mean a toll on my personal relationships.”
“Some will ask why I then agreed to join John McCain on the 2008 presidential ticket, that's a good question that I would like to address now. When I was asked to join his he was already nominated to be the GOP candidate. Although John and I don't agree on every issue I felt it would be a great opportunity to work with him issues with which we agree and then be in a position to offer alternative viewpoints of those we don't, maybe changing his mind and direction on those issues. At that point in time I can't think of a better position to be where I could positively effect policy and legislation on issues I hold dear.”
“I continue to have great respect for John McCain, for his contributions and for his support of this country and our military. But we part ways on too many issues for me to be able to support his reelection as Senator. I wish him luck and Godspeed in all he does, but I must follow my conscience. It's time in America for fresh ideas and fresh champions and Arizona needs a Senator that will uphold ALL if it's basic and fundamental values.”
I think she’ll be ok. She’s a natural conservative and that’s why we love her. It’s looking like the establishment has selected Romney vs Huckabee for us in 2012 and we need Sarah in there as the grassroots tea party conservative antidote. The anti-establishment Tea Party movement is growing leaps and bounds in numbers and power and they’re not going to settle for a business-as-usual, Big Government RINO!.
I thought the DC TP was a great event, unprecedented. If I commented on anything it was the expection of positive press coverage, if any at all, and I think my opinion has been justified.
My criticism was calling for another DC event so quickly. I can list all the reasons for my apprehension and I will do that if you want. But basically it was my opinion that the time, effort and money would be better spent building up the local chapters and effecting politics on a local and regional basis.
I have not wavered from this belief in 10 years. Much of it is basd on our own rallies in DC that saw declining attendance, interest and effort...it just burns supporters out along with draining their personal finances. Local efforts are much more successful and help build the team, not break it down.
I believe I have always been very consistent in my opinions and beliefs. You may disagree with me but please don’t misrepresent them. You of all people know I don’t go wobbly easily.
Sorry to hear you say that.
“Bob, I just don’t think the grassroots tea party movement much cares about your criticism or apprehensions.”
I never said they did. I also don’t believe anything I say here has one iota of influence on Palin. Frankly I don’t care.
It’s a public bulletin board, people post info and others respond and discuss. People get their politics-freak on here and satisfy their need for news. (I’m not calling people here a freak, it’s a figure of speech)
Why the obsession that I’m trying to influence events outside this website? My activism days are over. I took arrows for you, FR and conservatism for 8 years, I’ve got enough holes in me for one lifetime.
What is going on with the TP right now was experienced in a very small microcosm at the Network. I saw how the bickering, petty rivalries and possibly a lack of leadership, vision and commitment from areas at the top helped it dissassemble.
I don’t want to see it happen again. The TP movement is the best chance we have to establish a conservative ascendancy in this country. But there a hundred ways it might fail and the leaders need to be cognizant of them all. I can see some of it happening right now but I am confident as a movement it will have the resilience to succeed.
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