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Sheriff Accused of Violating Immigrant's Rights
WKRC ^ | Jan. 27, 2010 | WKRC

Posted on 01/27/2010 3:01:24 PM PST by AuntB

Butler County Sheriff Richard K. Jones was in federal court Tuesday, facing charges he violated an illegal immigrant's constitutional rights.

Our partners at the Journal News report the charges stem from a lawsuit filed after a 2007 incident when Luis Rodriguez and others were rounded up at a construction site on Port Union Road by Butler County deputies and a former immigration specialist hired by Jones, according to reports.

Officials said they were at the site to talk to a supervisor about undocumented workers, but while there Rodriguez and others were interrogated and asked to provide identification, said Rodriguez's attorney, Al Gerhardstein. Gerhardstein said his client, who had lived in Butler County for 11 years, was arrested and charged with providing a false identification and was deported to Mexico, though he was later acquitted of the charge.

Rodriguez' children, including two born in the United States, returned to Mexico, too, to keep the family together.

The court will decide if Jones authorized deputies and the former ICE agent to arrest Rodriguez and whether he had the right to do so, according to reports. Gerhardstein contends that Jones doesn't have that authority and that Rodriguez's fourth and fourteenth amendment rights were violated. The fourth amendment guards against unreasonable search and seizure, and the 14th amendment guarantees the right to due process and equal protection to all people within the U.S.

Rodriguez is seeking damages and also trying to establish the principle that there aren't any exceptions to the Fourth or 14th amendments.

A judge will decide in the next few weeks whether the lawsuit can continue.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: alienrights; aliens; amnesty; courts; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration
Keep in mind as you read this article, that our court system is being destroyed because illegal aliens are given rights, and sometimes more rights, than US Citizens. Sure would be a lot cheaper to just keep them OUT!

More than HALF of all Federal prosecutions are of illegal aliens

In 2009, the U.S. Justice Department filed nearly 92,000 immigration-related criminal cases in the federal courts. The record-breaking trend accounted for more than half of all new federal prosecutions in the country, according to Justice Department data maintained at Syracuse University.."

1 posted on 01/27/2010 3:01:25 PM PST by AuntB
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To: AuntB

What Constitutional Rights????

Gunner


2 posted on 01/27/2010 3:03:20 PM PST by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: AuntB

For crying out loud. The man should be given a medal.


3 posted on 01/27/2010 3:03:46 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: AuntB

Illegal immigrants? Aint no such thing under law. They are illegal aliens, and as such do not have any constitutional rights.


4 posted on 01/27/2010 3:05:45 PM PST by Candor7 (((The effective weapons against Oba- Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA)))
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To: AuntB

ILLEGAL ALIENS DO NOT HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, you rotten SOB’s!


5 posted on 01/27/2010 3:06:43 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: AuntB
R.I.P U.s.a.

Im sorry to say this but its the truth we are about to collapse,America has so many enemies and they are curently winning. Many anchor babies identify themselves as Mexicans and some are voting for the democrats who allow this garbage to continue.

6 posted on 01/27/2010 3:07:00 PM PST by lmarie373 (*These little guys might look cute and cuddly, but trust us: they will kill you.-on emanuel brothers)
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To: La Lydia

Liberals have no idea how much powder they are packing into the barrel which is pointed right back at them...


7 posted on 01/27/2010 3:07:46 PM PST by Crim
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To: AuntB
They are illegal so they have NO RIGHTS only given rights by the anti-American left wing Progressive (NAZI) scum.
8 posted on 01/27/2010 3:08:27 PM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Royal 100 Club is Acting the Same as the Roman Senate When the Republic Collapsed)
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To: AuntB

Ha. If that illegal immigrant was caught with a gun, I’ll bet money the “second amendment defense” wouldn’t hold.


9 posted on 01/27/2010 3:09:08 PM PST by pray4liberty (Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.)
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To: AuntB

Amendment Text | Annotations
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;


10 posted on 01/27/2010 3:11:55 PM PST by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: AuntB

I guess everyone in the world has American “Constitutional” rights. we, the people of the world, are all one big happy “Socialist” family. Who was the genius who said “Kill the lawyers first”?


11 posted on 01/27/2010 3:12:28 PM PST by Mustard Plaster
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To: AuntB
Officials said they were at the site to talk to a supervisor about undocumented workers, but while there Rodriguez and others were interrogated and asked to provide identification...was arrested and charged with providing a false identification and was deported to Mexico, though he was later acquitted of the charge.

The fourth amendment guards against unreasonable search and seizure, and the 14th amendment guarantees the right to due process and equal protection to all people within the U.S.

Looks like a frivolous suit. Law enforcement had "probable cause" to enforce the law.

12 posted on 01/27/2010 3:12:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: AuntB
The court will decide if Jones authorized deputies and the former ICE agent to arrest Rodriguez and whether he had the right to do so, according to reports.

Since when did a Sheriff, a duly-sworn law enforcement officer, not have the right to tell his deputies to arrest someone?

13 posted on 01/27/2010 3:14:54 PM PST by pray4liberty (Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.)
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To: AuntB
"establish the principle that there aren't any exceptions to the Fourth or 14th amendments."

Our whole problem lies in affording NON-CITIZENS the benefit of the Constitution of a country they INVADED ILLEGALLY.

Where's common sense in this?

14 posted on 01/27/2010 3:15:08 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: AuntB

“WHOM THE GODS WOULD DESTROY THEY FIRST MAKE MAD.”


15 posted on 01/27/2010 3:19:52 PM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: lmarie373

“Many anchor babies identify themselves as Mexicans and some are voting for the democrats who allow this garbage to continue.”

Yep!

Poll: Mexicans say Mexican-Americans Owe Loyalty to Mexico Over U.S.
Thu Oct 15 11:51:17 2009 ·

(CNSNews.com) - Nearly 70 percent of Mexicans surveyed said that Mexican-Americans – including those born in the United States – owe their primary loyalty to Mexico, not the U.S.

Mexican anchor babies recruited by drug cartels...

[The article refers to Mexican anchor babies as “American teenagers”. The Mexican teenagers are allowed to travel across the border unimpeded, which makes them excellent recruits for the drug cartels

Mexican drug cartels have conducted military-style training camps in at least six such locations in northern Tamaulipas and Nuevo León states, some within a few miles of the Texas border, according to U.S. and Mexican authorities and the printed testimony of five protected witnesses who were trained in the camps.

The camps near the Texas border and at other locations in Mexico are used to train cartel recruits – ranging from Mexican army deserters to American teenagers – who then carry out killings and other cartel assignments on both sides of the border, authorities say.

“Traffickers go to great lengths to prepare themselves for battle,” said a senior U.S. anti-narcotics official, speaking on condition of anonymity. “Part of that preparation is live firing ranges and combat training courses.
http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2008/03/30/mexican-drug-cartels-operate-training-camps-near-texas-border/


16 posted on 01/27/2010 3:21:46 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

He apprehended a criminal.

Good for him.


17 posted on 01/27/2010 3:41:24 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: AuntB

Only problem is illegals don’t have constitutional rights.


18 posted on 01/27/2010 3:44:59 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: All

I invade your country.

I parade in your streets openly, making mockery of your 1st Amendment. I even vote in your elections under fictitious names that I assumed when I invaded your country, which BTW, is really my land that you stole through deceit. I can form special interest groups that by there very name and nature are racist, but will exercise my right to redress with the government if you form one to oppose me.

I commit crimes in your country and have the same reasonable expectations of privacy and to be free from unreasonable governmental intrusions under your 4th Amendment.

I have the right not to incriminate myself but make your government do it under the 5th Amendment.

I make you provide me competent legal counsel on your taxpayers dime under your 6th Amendment. Remember, I am indigent despite supposedly working those jobs you so called “Real Americans” won’t work. Plus I have the Consul to provide me with legal defense as well.

I can rape your children and not expect to be punished too harshly because of your 8th Amendment. Furthermore, I make you prove that I am not a natural born citizen so that you can’t throw me out until you prove that I am here illegally.

Under your 13th Amendment I am free from indentured servitude but I don’t have a problem with selling some of my own people into slavery. Sometimes I sell some of yours, especially if they are pretty.

I make full use of the 14th Amendment so that I have the same rights of due process as you “real Americans”.

So, all these rights are afforded to me. A reasonable invader, excuse me, immigrant, would feel free to exercise the 2nd. After all, don’t you say that the 2nd Amendment has no restrictions? Would you all very much mind if I gather a bunch of my compadres with tattoos on their faces and exercise our right to form militias?

Before anyone goes completely apoplectic, this is sarcastic in nature but the truths are self evident, so to speak.


19 posted on 01/27/2010 3:58:29 PM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: AuntB
Constitutional Rights?

Aren't illegal undocumented aliens technically just invaders of our nation, who apparently the CIC's refuse to counter?

I mean there is a clearly established formal way for any foreign citizen to enter the United States is there not? Like applying at the consulate in one's home nation?

Isn't that the international standard?

Can I just go into Mexico without formal clearance and start working there while using the schools, hospitals, etc?

Can I just go into Canada without formal clearance and start working there while using the schools, hospitals, etc?

And that is simply speaking of North American neighboring nations. Can a Polish citizen just enter the United States without clearance and start working and drawing on the public benefits? And if not why is he discriminated against versus Mexican insurgents.

What is going on here? Where is Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State, or Gates, Secretary of Defense?

Is there a United States with a taxpaying, law abiding, citizenry who are taxed and obligated to be defended, or is there just international anarchy?

Are we not talking obvious issues here?

Johnny Suntrade

20 posted on 01/27/2010 4:00:54 PM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: AuntB

It is disgusting that we have politicians, media, and special interest groups who value the rights of Illegal Aliens over the rights of American citizens.

Illegal Aliens need to be rounded up and DEPORTED....anything short of this borders on treason.


21 posted on 01/27/2010 4:17:01 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: AuntB
....... he violated an illegal immigrant's constitutional rights.

Why do they always leave that word out of these stories.

Thought that this would be another Arpaio story.

22 posted on 01/27/2010 4:24:30 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: AuntB

“Rounding them up” will cost more than giving them say enticing them to leave.

I hope we can come up with a clever way to compel self deportation.

Maybe offer a free Jeep Wrangler and 50 grand cash to leave,


23 posted on 01/27/2010 5:06:56 PM PST by NoLibZone (Be of good cheer True Conservatives- McCain could have won! Right? /Sarc . Tis Why We Support Brown!)
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To: AuntB
...he violated an illegal immigrant's constitutional rights

Um..... WHAT?

24 posted on 01/27/2010 5:17:16 PM PST by vpintheak (How can love of God, Family and Country make me an extremist?)
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To: NoLibZone
I hope we can come up with a clever way to compel self deportation.

It's not that difficult, the illegals aren't stupid.

Begin with monthly high profile raids. Escalate to weekly high profile raids.

After awhile, for every illegal deported by the raid scores will self-deport.

25 posted on 01/27/2010 5:25:19 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer)
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To: jnsun

How come I have to show an ID?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_v._Sixth_Judicial_District_Court_of_Nevada


26 posted on 01/28/2010 7:28:42 AM PST by Tspud1
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To: Not a 60s Hippy
Senator Jacob Howard, the author of the citizenship clause in the 14th Amendment, clearly spelled out its true intent by stating:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

27 posted on 01/29/2010 1:59:30 AM PST by Isabel C.
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