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MSM Leaping to Conclusions (O'Keefe Arrest)
BigGovernment.com ^ | 1/27/2009 | Andrew Breitbart

Posted on 01/27/2010 4:27:58 PM PST by GVnana

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To: fight_truth_decay

Maybe more like Huggy Bear from Starsky & Hutch


21 posted on 01/27/2010 5:58:49 PM PST by PMAS
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To: bpjam

Yeah, BUT, weren’t two of them wearing phone company jackets? That will complicate things.


22 posted on 01/27/2010 6:07:04 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer)
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To: GVnana

O’Keefe has placed some bait and the feds took it. The trap has sprung! He has something big and wants to bring it to light in federal court. This is a well planned thought out set of dominoes and it will be fun to watch in the coming months. A federal attorney’s son in the mix! This is a sting in the making... The MSM will go down with the corrupt ACORN tied politicians too!


23 posted on 01/27/2010 6:26:02 PM PST by Stymee
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To: bpjam

Keep your powder dry, O’Keefe is playing out some planned sting. He must have some evidence he wants to present in federal court.


24 posted on 01/27/2010 6:29:41 PM PST by Stymee
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To: Balding_Eagle

Very important distinction legally if they were wearing actual uniforms from a phone company or just something that ‘looked like’ a phone company employee. I’m betting that the totally bogus looking outfits is what tipped off the Senators staffers who called building security.

But even so, the charges being talked about are only remotely valid IF these two halloween outfitted guys were ACTUALLY planning and had the ability and tools to actually tap the phone lines of the Senator. If they simply had tool bags with pliers, screwdrivers and ratchet sets, then this is obviously a prank. And proving intent requires proving an ability to at least plausibly achieve the FELONY ACT. It’s the reason we don’t arrest terrorist planners until they actually get their plan together and buy the weapons. You can’t make charges stick just because somebody ‘wants to’ or ‘talked about’ committing a crime.

Watch the US Attorney try for a ‘conspiracy’ charge instead since that would be way, way, way easier to make stand up - conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor offense.

If these amateurs dressed up as cops or Federal employees of any type, this would be an automatic felony charge. But they didn’t.

Just like Fraud - you have to prove that there were actually a fraudulent act performed in order to prosecute it. You can’t simply claim that somebody was a liar and ‘could’ have committed a fraud if they had wanted to.


25 posted on 01/27/2010 6:46:56 PM PST by bpjam (If it seems to good to be true, best to shoot it. Just to be safe. - Fione Glenanne)
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To: GVnana

Saul Alinsky: “Always accuse the other side of doing the thing YOU are about to do..”


26 posted on 01/27/2010 9:32:21 PM PST by gaijin
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To: fight_truth_decay

I really think he shouldn’t class himself as a journalists. They’re forbidden by laws that exist in many states, to engage in undercover sting operations.


27 posted on 01/28/2010 12:17:31 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: gaijin

Saul Alinsky: “Always accuse the other side of doing the thing YOU are about to do..”


Sounds like the practically Biblical saying “Thy sins speak loudly in accusation” (ie. you accuse others of committing the sins you commit - mostly because you know how damning they are and how damning they would be if exposed. It’s now called ‘projection’ in psychobabble)


28 posted on 01/28/2010 7:39:11 AM PST by bpjam (If it seems to good to be true, best to shoot it. Just to be safe. - Fione Glenanne)
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To: Stymee
O’Keefe has placed some bait and the feds took it.

I think so, too. He's flushed the players out in the open.

29 posted on 01/28/2010 10:04:23 AM PST by GVnana ("Obama is incredibly naive and grossly egotistical." Sarkozy)
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