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What’s the Matter with the New York State GOP? Winnable Races, but too few Candidates
redstate.com ^ | January 28, 2010 | Brian Faughnan

Posted on 01/29/2010 12:20:47 PM PST by neverdem

In the wake of Scott Brown’s upset win in Massachusetts, Blue-Chip GOP candidates are coming out of the woodwork around the country. But there seems to be little progress in dark blue New York – at least when it comes to statewide races. With a dearth of good candidates (so far), New York may be one state where Democrats dodge a Republican wave that seems set to sweep the nation in 10 months.

This year the Empire State is host to a bevy of statewide contests. Voters will elect two US Senators, a Governor, Attorney General and Comptroller. At this point, there are two Republican candidates declared for those contests: former Representative Rick Lazio for Governor, and former County Legislator Bruce Blakeman for Kirsten Gillibrand’s Senate seat. Admittedly, New York has few top-tier Republican candidates – especially after 3 consecutive disastrous cycles. But polls show that Gillibrand is eminently beatable. And the Governor’s race should be appealing as well – even if you assume that Andrew Cuomo will defeat incumbent David Paterson in a primary.

The main story on the Republican side has been of heavyweights who take a pass. And this is a state with few Republican heavyweights. The list probably begins and ends with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. While Giuliani considered both gubernatorial and Senate races, state Republicans grumbled about his ‘Hamlet Act.’ Eventually party leaders moved to line up other candidates for those races, and Giuliani decided he wasn’t interested, anyway.

Almost by default, former Governor George Pataki makes the list as well – despite having left the governorship with approval ratings in the 30s back in 2006. But that was then, and this is now. Pataki leaders Gillibrand in Senate polling. The last prominent Republican widely looked to as a potential statewide candidate is Congressman Peter King – one of just 2 Republicans in the state’s House delegation. King ultimately decided to run for re-election, rather than seek a promotion.

Admittedly, there’s a relatively thin bench to work with – at least, this year. The state’s Republicans had a great year in 2009 – taking over several key counties, and winning city council seats across the state. In a few years, the people who won in 2009 and 2010 will challenge for higher office, but few are ready now.

When it comes to the Gillibrand Senate seat, a host of names have been floated. Giuliani, Pataki, and King (twice) have all been rumored for the seat. So have Marc Mukasey – the son of the former Attorney General – and Sue Molinari – who was last elected in New York in 1996, and who currently resides in Virginia. After Scott Brown’s win there’s been more speculation about Pataki, again. But a round of calls to Republican operatives found no one who expected him to run. And a well-placed Republican strategist describes it as ‘a longshot;’ party leaders are actively pursuing other candidates.

Things are marginally better when it comes to the gubernatorial race. The lone Republican candidate – Rick Lazio – has run statewide before. He was defeated by Hillary Clinton 55%-43% in the 2000 Senate race – a race in which he was a late substitute for Rudy Giuliani. Lazio is slowly and steadily winning endorsements, but some party leaders are looking for another candidate. There’s been talk about Erie County Executive Chris Collins (who’s now definitively out of the race), and even former State Senator Mike Balboni – who jumped from the State Senate to a job in the Spitzer administration, helping the Democrat party retake control of that body.

In the last few weeks things have gotten bizarre, as Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy has reportedly been in discussion with GOP leaders about switching parties and running for Governor. It’s been reported that Levy wants the GOP to clear the field for him – a stunning request for a turncoat with little name ID. Because Levy is a fiscal conservative who’s run with Republican and Conservative party backing in the past, his running as a Republican shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand. But it says a lot that some party leaders are courting him for any statewide race.

The news isn’t all bad. It appears that one legitimate candidate may soon declare for state comptroller. And a number of strong candidates have stepped up for House races. (In fact, no state has more Democrat Congressional seats on Charlie Cook’s 2010 watch list than New York – which has a whopping eight). Plus, the filing deadline is not until July, so there’s time for candidates to jump in.

But whether because of a thin bench, the high cost of statewide races, or the fact that state legislators look like bad candidates right now, there’s not a lot of candidate for high-priority races. And if Gillibrand, Schumer, and either Paterson or Cuomo prevail without strong challenges, New Yorkers will be kicking themselves for years.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: nysgop
What’s the Matter with the New York State GOP?

There's too many gutless, idiotic RINOs!

1 posted on 01/29/2010 12:20:48 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
What’s the Matter with the New York State GOP?

All the good ones have left the state or changed their residency.

2 posted on 01/29/2010 12:29:06 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: neverdem

You can add the 23rd to that. It’s held by Massa but was formerly held by Kuhl and before that Houghton. THe Repub. “challenger”, Reed, is a bona fide joke.

Would love to see a conservative 3rd party run but no luck so far.


3 posted on 01/29/2010 12:29:20 PM PST by LeavingNewYork (We are at war with Oceania; we have always been at war with Oceania.)
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To: neverdem

The NY GOP leadership is ridden with RINOs. RINOs can’t win.


4 posted on 01/29/2010 12:32:17 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: neverdem

Not only are they RINOs, but many of them are machine politicians just as corrupt as the Democrats. And although I haven’t kept track recently, I don’t think there has been much new blood coming into the party leadership. Not much chance to groom new people, I suspect.


5 posted on 01/29/2010 12:39:13 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LeavingNewYork

LOL, you can add the 21st with TONKO THE ANTI ISRAEL COMMUNIST ECONUTJOB. Hes a “GAZA 54”signer/endorser. No Rep/Conservative has announced a run against this ANTISEMITIC BASTARD.


6 posted on 01/29/2010 12:50:21 PM PST by wheninthecourse
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To: LeavingNewYork

That’s the 29th, not the 23rd (the 23rd is the district McHugh vacated and where Hoffman almost pulled off the upset).

The 29th is arguably the most Republican district in the state, and Massa is a liberal extremist (he’s even a member of the Progressive Caucus), so a half-decent candidate could win it for us. If no one else wants to run, Kuhl should run and win it back.


7 posted on 01/29/2010 12:52:41 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: neverdem

They are a bunch of total incompetents. They have no organization and no desire to win. They could take back the senate this year if they had the brains. They could also pickup 4-5 house seats as well. But this is the state that Pataki left the party in.


8 posted on 01/29/2010 1:04:09 PM PST by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: appeal2

Tedisco should run for something, he’s electable. Also George Amadore.

Otherwise they should do like has been done in the past with Hillary, Cheney and Romney, recruit from another state.

Gillibrand won’t even win her own primary with that “new resident” from Tennessee already campaigning upstate. Harold Obama I think his name is.


9 posted on 01/29/2010 1:18:43 PM PST by squeegee boy
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To: neverdem

NY-27 (Buffalo) is a district where the present Rep. Brian Higgins is democrat-machine apparatchik and the seat has been gerrymadered to make it seemingly blue forever.

Higgins is awful. Lockstep with Pelosi for the last 4 years. Was ready to ram through “health-care” last June, ran scared from town-hall meetings, etc...

He could be beaten, but I don’t think anyone, even a RINO, wants to take on his SEIU/AFSCME machine and money.

Instead frustrated people just pack up and go to GA, TX, NC or AZ.


10 posted on 01/29/2010 1:23:51 PM PST by PGR88
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To: All

The GOP is very weak...there is no excuse for not fielding a credible candidate in NY.

MD is much the same...We have a weak Gov. in O’Malley and and old do nothing 80 yr old Senator in Mikulski.

Ehrlich was considering running for Gov. but has made no announcement and hasn’t even hinted about running. Personally I wish he would run for Senate.

No elected official...Delegate, or State Sen. or even a county executive has filed or plans to against Sen Mikulski.

That’s is unforgivable...you at leas make them spend money and defend the seat with a named politician.

I swear if nobody announces I’ll file and run myself for Mikulski’s seat.


11 posted on 01/29/2010 1:24:14 PM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll support Romney : He sucks but he's better than Obama.)
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To: neverdem
Geez, you people are going to make me throw my hat in the ring just to get some conservative candidate on the ballots to challenge the crypto-soviets in New York!

Do you really want some lazy good-for-nothing who hides behind the name "Oceander" being the only republican running against these SOBs?


12 posted on 01/29/2010 1:26:25 PM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

TWO WORDS: Old Chairmen

The NYS GOP is comprised of about 60 counties with each having a county Republican Committee led by a county chairman.

The county chairmen meetings look like WWII veteran conventions - the average age of the chairs is something like 78 years old.

For example: The largest county in the 23rd Congressional district is Saratoga County - the chairman is a man who served for 20+ years and is nearing 80 years old.

He unilaterally selected the candidates to run for Congress ad lost to Kristen Gillibrand giving the seat to a Dem in a 3-1 GOP to DEM district. He lost again to regain it and when Gillibrand was appointed senater providing an easy opportunity to win it back the old man lost it again!

He’s getting too old, losing memory, doesn’t even know what the internet is - yet because he provided hundreds of patronage jobs to his committee members they are afraid to vote him out.

That’s going on accross the state whisch is why there is NO BENCH - these self proclaimed chairmen for life have refused to allow any new blood into the mix for fear they would threaten the chairman’s job.

The smae thing happened in the Northern distirct were Dede Sazzafava was chosen by OLD men who were the county chairs.

The NYS GOP is DEAD - the chairmen are comotose, the buddies in office are waiting out their pensions.

The Massachusetts GOP makes NY look bad if you can imagine.

Only the Tea Party can save the NYS GOP by ignoring the party infrastructure and running real people from the grassroots.


13 posted on 01/29/2010 1:34:13 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: squeegee boy

That would be great if we had some leadership in the party. But we have Richard Nixon’s son-inlaw who’s now in charge and so far I haven’t seen him do a damned thing.

Here’s an email I got from the GOP today. Pretty powerful, huh?

Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts shocked the political world and sent a strong, clear message to the Democrat elites in Washington that people have had enough with crushing new taxes
YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN NY ON FEB 9! SUPPORT:

Dean Murray, Suffolk

Mike Montesano, Nassau

Bob Friedrich, Queens

Rob Castelli, Westchester

GET INVOLVED TODAY!

and runaway spending.

New York sent the largest contingent of any state to help in Massachusetts. Now it’s time to direct that energy here at home.

We have an opportunity to keep the momentum going on February 9th in the four special elections for State Assembly.

YOU CAN MAKE MAKE THE DIFFERENCE!

Save the days leading to Feb 9th for door-to-door activities in the districts near you. Details soon!

Simply click a link to the right to learn more about how you can get active in the campaign of your choice.

You’ll go directly to the candidates’ websites where you can sign up to volunteer, donate money, receive updates and learn more about our candidates’ plans to clean up State Government and make it work for people again.

GET INVOLVED TODAY!


14 posted on 01/29/2010 1:40:27 PM PST by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: 1Old Pro
Only the Tea Party can save the NYS GOP by ignoring the party infrastructure and running real people from the grassroots.

It sounds like a plan!

15 posted on 01/29/2010 1:43:40 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Oceander

It’s pathetic that the GOP isn’t recruiting candidates against, Hilebrand?, she is very weak.

I’m very serious, I’ve been to all of the Tea Parties in my area, and I’ll inquire about support if they don’t field a name candidate.

Like you, I don’t want to, but we can’t let the Leftists go uncontested. I’m hoping somebody announces.

Gov Palin, I may need an appearance lol.


16 posted on 01/29/2010 1:46:09 PM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll support Romney : He sucks but he's better than Obama.)
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To: rbmillerjr
You are exactly right! (And correct, too!). Perhaps we should get a group of like-minded people together to run our own slate of candidates if the New York GOP won't ( unfortunately, the NY GOP is riddled with so-called Roosevelt republicans, who are essentially liberals in all but name).

Getting ex-Gov. Palin to come and support such a move would be absolute pure gold, as well!


17 posted on 01/29/2010 1:50:23 PM PST by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

We’ve gotten used to the idea that we can’t win, at least downstate. This election cycle may see things pep up a bit. The Scott Brown victory spirit will only take us so far, however—he had national backing to the point of having $4 million left over, and it’s impossible for every candidate to have that. Still, I think we will see some good candidates come forward. For House races at least.


18 posted on 01/29/2010 1:52:46 PM PST by firebrand
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To: LeavingNewYork

The last thing we need is a third party when for once we have a chance in some districts. Democrats can win by the same number of votes or less as that given to a third- party candidate. The races could be close. Unite the clans! If we don’t do it this time, when we have the momentum, when we have a chance, we deserve the Rat Congress and Senate that we get.


19 posted on 01/29/2010 1:59:46 PM PST by firebrand (United the clans!)
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To: appeal2

His son Chris Cox (Nixon’s grandson by Tricia) is running for NY-1 Eastern Suffolk County. The Cox family are long term residents of the area.

http://chriscoxforcongress.com/


20 posted on 01/29/2010 2:04:27 PM PST by hedgie
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To: Cicero

Same garbaaage is going on in PA and other states, including the Russell/Murtha race. The Rino leadership would rather keep the likes of Murtha in power than run a conservative.


21 posted on 01/29/2010 2:40:52 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.handsoffliberty.com)
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To: firebrand

“The last thing we need is a third party when for once we have a chance in some districts.”

I was referring specifically to the NY 29th. Reed is not only a RINO but a nincompoop. He’s all in favor of having the KSM trial in NYC, and seems to be a true example of an empty suit. He was placed there by the local GOP bigwigs. If I knew he’d vote lock-step w/the Repubs I wouldn’t mind, but w/him you can’t be sure.
The 29th can still be won, but not w/Reed.


22 posted on 01/29/2010 3:40:45 PM PST by LeavingNewYork (We are at war with Oceania; we have always been at war with Oceania.)
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To: neverdem; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

This excerpt caught my eye:

“In the last few weeks things have gotten bizarre, as Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy has reportedly been in discussion with GOP leaders about switching parties and running for Governor.”

That is a surprise. I don’t know what to think about it. We do want converts from the other side, provided we have plenty of area of agreement.


23 posted on 01/29/2010 5:23:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: neverdem

What GOP? There hasn’t been a GOP in this staten since Rocker Feller.


24 posted on 01/29/2010 7:14:18 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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