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Palin is framing the debate. “my common sense v your bullcrap”
ISRAPUNDIT ^ | Jan30/10 | Ted Belman

Posted on 01/30/2010 2:43:05 AM PST by tedbel

Sara Palin is hated by the left either for her policies or her "stupidity" or, more likely, both. I have been a supported of hers ever since she eviscerated Obama in her nomination acceptance speech. Yet I had strong reservations because she tuned me off when being interviewed. She was too verbose, superficial and repetitive. She was anything but intellectual. How many times have you heard her repeat common sense solutions, put the government back on the side of the people, get out of the way of private enterprise, lower taxes because the people know best how to spent their money and so on.

I now see this style as an asset.

Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it. So much more so for the truth. When you want to sell anything, you must brand it as "the best". It is immaterial whether it is or not. And while you are at it, brand your competition as "the worst". Selling is not appealing to the intellect but to the emotions. The same goes for winning elections. They are all about imaging and positioning. Is a candidate conservative or liberal, likable or nerdy or smart or stupid? Candidates understand this and campaign on broad stokes and not detailed policies. Being considered an intellectual is often an albatross. It did Adlai Stephenson no good.

Democrats know all about positive and negative branding. Throughout the Bush 43 presidency, they branding him as stupid or a cowboy, or a frat boy. They repetitively flaunted soundbites like "Bush lied, people died". Thus the ground work was laid for "hope and change". The "Messiah" had come.

Obama simply blamed Bush for the mess.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; palin; sarahpalin; sotu

1 posted on 01/30/2010 2:43:05 AM PST by tedbel
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To: tedbel

As someone who owns four brands I can tell you that repetition in advertising is correct. The general public needs to be hit over the head numerous times with the same boring message over and over before they even look at the brand let alone try it.


2 posted on 01/30/2010 2:59:24 AM PST by liberty or death
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To: tedbel

She warned them. Don’t mess with a hockey mom. I learned the hard way, too. One doesn’t coach ice hockey for 30 years without learning to let hockey moms do their thing. Your life is much safer that way.

So it is with Governor Palin. But the LIBs are too stupid to stop the character assassinations. Now it’s HER turn and it won’t be pretty.

I am one who thinks she is doing the right thing, campaigning for McCain. Look at it this way - he KNOWS that it was because of her that he almost succeeded in becoming President. He is ackowledging that everytime she helps his Senate race. And she is too classy to take credit. This is win-win for her; I’m not sure it helps McCain because now he owes her.


3 posted on 01/30/2010 2:59:47 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: tedbel
Sara Palin is hated by the left either for her policies or her "stupidity" or, more likely, both. I have been a supported of hers ever since she eviscerated Obama in her nomination acceptance speech.

Calling someone stupid in your first sentence and outing yourself in the second...priceless!

4 posted on 01/30/2010 3:06:30 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: liberty or death

I agree with your notion of repetition.

That said, Greta had Palin on for a good chunk of the first segment of her show Thursday night. After SP gave the repetitive-type answers we’ve come to expect from her, Greta asked her in terms of specific policy, what she would have said if she were giving the SOTU. Things to get the economy going. And SP did not deviate and did not get specific at all. Greta gave her an opening to drive a truck through and she didn’t take it. I am a big fan of SP (see my tagline) but I must confess, it disappointed me a bit.

Then again, maybe the gov was just having an off day!


5 posted on 01/30/2010 3:09:30 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69

Now is not the time for specifics such as you wanted from SP. Why? Because anything she would have outlined as a solution would have immediately been sliced, diced and ripped apart by a press intent on destroying her. It wouldn’t have mattered if what they said about her ideas was true, only that the criticisms were out there.

By keeping it general, such as saying for example, “we need to take actions which will directly translate into permanent jobs rather than jobs created by stimulus money which will disappear as soon as the cash is gone”, she makes it impossible for the detractors to criticize her on that statementm since no one can reasonably disagree with her.


6 posted on 01/30/2010 3:28:44 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Daisyjane69
That said, Greta had Palin on for a good chunk of the first segment of her show Thursday night. After SP gave the repetitive-type answers we’ve come to expect from her, Greta asked her in terms of specific policy, what she would have said if she were giving the SOTU. Things to get the economy going. And SP did not deviate and did not get specific at all. Greta gave her an opening to drive a truck through and she didn’t take it.

I thought it was just me, but you're right. Greta asked and Sarah replied with shallow stock answers. Apparently, that's what people want to hear.

7 posted on 01/30/2010 3:32:42 AM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: Dixie Yooper

You DO understand the use of “ “ to denote irony?


8 posted on 01/30/2010 3:38:20 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: Daisyjane69
what she would have said if she were giving the SOTU

How many people could answer this off the cuff?

9 posted on 01/30/2010 3:41:33 AM PST by Dem Guard
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To: joesbucks

I am hoping she’ll do a better job of putting the ideas from her Facebook posts into her onscreen appearances on FNC. Condensed, of course.

Because I find her Facebook posts just brilliant. Timely, clever, smart...and directly to the point!

But as I say, I’m a fan. I imagine these skills will come soon. She’s only been an official analyst for a couple weeks.

And she’s a quick study!


10 posted on 01/30/2010 3:43:24 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69
"Then again, maybe the gov was just having an off day! "

Anything, and everything, Sarah Palin says (or does) is fodder for those of you who think of her as "stupid" to run out-of-context bull$h1+ on blogs like this, and others.

If you're looking for slick, BS artists, your guy is in office right now...all talk, no action...symbolism over substance.

I doesn't matter if Sarah Palin can knit two sentences together, so long as she governs how she believes, and lives that belief.

Do you want someone who will bring honesty and integrity to government, or do you want another sitcom star like clinton or obama?

Television has merged the lines between statesmen and "stars". We don't want someone who wins an oscar to run the country...you can tune in any day of the week and see what some lefty, hollywood dork thinks about the government...and if you wanted to assign "stupid" to someone, how about Sean Penn, Geo. Clooney, Danny Glover, and on and on...now THAT is stupid.

So far, Sarah has the very best agenda of all those in the running...her "agenda" is AMERICA and the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Her blueprint is the U.S. CONSTITUTION, and her moral guidebook is the BIBLE.

So, she is right...she does have commonsense vs the rest of the bullcrap going around out there.

She's real and if she runs, she has my vote.

The United States prisons are just full of SLICK TALKERS...and they all got caught.
11 posted on 01/30/2010 3:45:40 AM PST by FrankR (The ones of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Daisyjane69

If Sarah Palin has specifics to offer and if she intends to run for higher office, she will want to release her agenda at a time of her choosing and not at Greta’s.


12 posted on 01/30/2010 3:47:37 AM PST by upsdriver
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To: Daisyjane69; joesbucks

This article is spot on, but you’re both right—she’s going to have to come through with specifics as well. She probably hasn’t sorted out her 2012 platform, and she’s revealing more bit by bit in her Fox appearances. (E.g., she was specific in going after Obama.)


13 posted on 01/30/2010 3:48:26 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: All

i remember when obama first started, obama was totally vague on everything until the media caught onto his a game and started demanding specifics. So he did, in that Greek Collumn theatre speech. Since then he has not kept a word on any of his specifics


14 posted on 01/30/2010 3:53:33 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: FrankR

If you think I believe Palin is stupid, you need to review my post history. That characterization is both wrong and uninformed.

I’m simply disappointed that when she was asked specifics, she didn’t give any. And Greta prompted her again, giving her another chance and she still didn’t. These are the kinds of moments that make OTHERS assume she is stupid, which I do not believe for one second.

The President’s SOTU speech was available before it was delivered, released online ahead of time. She had ample opportunity to put a substitute response together, with specifics. I’m simply disappointed that she didn’t.

“I doesn’t matter if Sarah Palin can knit two sentences together...”

Well if you don’t care, I suggest you start NOW. Because, believe it or not, I talk to people every day who are willing to ignore the content of what the Idiot in Chief is saying, in order to note how he “sounds.”

And unfortunately for the rest of us, they get to vote.


15 posted on 01/30/2010 3:55:56 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: tedbel

She could have said some of this:

“While I don’t wish to speak too harshly about President Obama’s state of the union address, we live in challenging times that call for candor. I call them as I see them, and I hope my frank assessment will be taken as an honest effort to move this conversation forward.

Last night, the president spoke of the “credibility gap” between the public’s expectations of their leaders and what those leaders actually deliver. “Credibility gap” is a good way to describe the chasm between rhetoric and reality in the president’s address. The contradictions seemed endless.

He called for Democrats and Republicans to “work through our differences,” but last year he dismissed any notion of bipartisanship when he smugly told Republicans, “I won.”

He talked like a Washington “outsider,” but he runs Washington! He’s had everything any president could ask for – an overwhelming majority in Congress and a fawning press corps that feels tingles every time he speaks. There was nothing preventing him from pursuing “common sense” solutions all along. He didn’t pursue them because they weren’t his priorities, and he spent his speech blaming Republicans for the problems caused by his own policies.

He dared us to “let him know” if we have a better health care plan, but he refused to allow Republicans in on the negotiations or consider any ideas for real free market and patient-centered reforms. We’ve been “letting him know” our ideas for months from the town halls to the tea parties, but he isn’t interested in listening. Instead he keeps making the nonsensical claim that his massive trillion-dollar health care bill won’t increase the deficit.

Americans are suffering from job losses and lower wages, yet the president practically demanded applause when he mentioned tax cuts, as if allowing people to keep more of their own hard-earned money is an act of noblesse oblige. He claims that he cut taxes, but I must have missed that. I see his policies as paving the way for massive tax increases and inflation, which is the “hidden tax” that most hurts the poor and the elderly living on fixed incomes.

He condemned lobbyists, but his White House is filled with former lobbyists, and this has been a banner year for K Street with his stimulus bill, aka the Lobbyist’s Full Employment Act. He talked about a “deficit of trust” and the need to “do our work in the open,” but he chased away the C-SPAN cameras and cut deals with insurance industry lobbyists behind closed doors.

He spoke of doing what’s best for the next generation and not leaving our children with a “mountain of debt,” but under his watch this year, government spending is up by 22%, and his budget will triple our national debt.

He spoke of a spending freeze, but doesn’t he realize that each new program he’s proposing comes with a new price tag? A spending freeze is a nice idea, but it doesn’t address the root cause of the problem. We need a comprehensive examination of the role of government spending. The president’s deficit commission is little more than a bipartisan tax hike committee, lending political cover to raise taxes without seriously addressing the problem of spending.

He condemned bailouts, but he voted for them and then expanded and extended them. He praised the House’s financial reform bill, but where was Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in that bill? He still hasn’t told us when we’ll be getting out of the auto and the mortgage industries. He praised small businesses, but he’s spent the past year as a friend to big corporations and their lobbyists, who always find a way to make government regulations work in their favor at the expense of their mom & pop competitors.

He praised the effectiveness of his stimulus bill, but then he called for another one – this time cleverly renamed a “jobs bill.” The first stimulus was sold to us as a jobs bill that would keep unemployment under 8%. We now have double digit unemployment with no end in sight. Why should we trust this new “jobs bill”?

He talked about “making tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development,” but apparently it’s still too tough for his Interior Secretary to move ahead with Virginia’s offshore oil and gas leases. If they’re dragging their feet on leases, how long will it take them to build “safe, clean nuclear power plants”? Meanwhile, he continued to emphasize “green jobs,” which require massive government subsidies for inefficient technologies that can’t survive on their own in the real world of the free market.

He spoke of supporting young girls in Afghanistan who want to go to school and young women in Iran who courageously protest in the streets, but where were his words of encouragement to the young girls of Afghanistan in his West Point speech? And where was his support for the young women of Iran when they were being gunned down in the streets of Tehran?

Despite speaking for an hour, the president only spent 10% of his speech on foreign policy, and he left us with many unanswered questions. Does he still think trying the 9/11 terrorists in New York is a good idea? Does he still think closing Gitmo is a good idea? Does he still believe in Mirandizing terrorists after the Christmas bomber fiasco? Does he believe we’re in a war against terrorists, or does he think this is just a global crime spree? Does he understand that the first priority of our government is to keep our country safe?

In his address last night, the president once again revealed that there’s a fundamental disconnect between what the American people expect from their government, and what he wants to deliver. He’s still proposing failed top-down big government solutions to our problems. Instead of smaller, smarter government, he’s taken a government that was already too big and supersized it.

Real private sector jobs are created when taxes are low, investment is high, and people are free to go about their business without the heavy hand of government. The president thinks innovation comes from government subsidies. Common sense conservatives know innovation comes from unleashing the creative energy of American entrepreneurs.

Everything seems to be “unexpected” to this administration: unexpected job losses; unexpected housing numbers; unexpected political losses in Massachusetts, Virginia, and New Jersey. True leaders lead best when confronted with the unexpected. But instead of leading us, the president lectured us. He lectured Wall Street; he lectured Main Street; he lectured Congress; he even lectured our Supreme Court Justices.

He criticized politicians who “wage a perpetual campaign,” but he gave a campaign speech instead of a state of the union address. The campaign is over, and President Obama now has something that candidate Obama never had: an actual track record in office. We now can see the failed policies behind the flowery words. If Americans feel as cynical as the president suggests, perhaps it’s because the audacity of his recycled rhetoric no longer inspires hope.

Real leadership requires results. Real hope lies in the ingenuity, generosity, and boundless courage of the American people whose voices are still not being heard in Washington.”

- Sarah Palin


16 posted on 01/30/2010 4:20:54 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: tedbel
How many times have you heard her repeat common sense solutions

Palin isn't using any common sense supporting McAmnesty.
17 posted on 01/30/2010 4:32:33 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Daisyjane69
The article was a good summation of how she is communicating and why.

Whatever she is doing, she is doing it well. I heard her on Greta and was impressed that she boiled the SOTU speech down to one word.

Lecture. It was a lecture.

She then went on to skewer Obama, yes in phrases, but it was highly effective, far better, more concise, deeper, and more interesting than the three other supposedly "brilliant" commentators she had on.

She's doing really well, and like the author of the article said, she's the one who is taking the front and center role of defining the debate and taking Obama down.

The time will come for her to get into policy discussions, she's done it before and will likely do it again. If she is running, she is positioning herself very well. If not, she'll be one of the primary voices for conservatism for a long long time.

Whichever road she chooses, she's going to be fine.

18 posted on 01/30/2010 4:38:14 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Yeah, she could have said something like that, too bad she's too dumb........

:-)

19 posted on 01/30/2010 4:39:37 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Article ping.


20 posted on 01/30/2010 4:41:15 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: tedbel

Yes, her constant chant of “common sense solutions” used to bug me, but I, too, saw that it was strategic. And look and listen now: every Republican is now saying “common sense” and even some Dems, including Obama, are using it in their speeches.


21 posted on 01/30/2010 4:47:53 AM PST by nomoremods
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To: Lakeshark; onyx; Al B.

And don’t forget according to some here on FR - scum, a traitor, a socialist, and a Judas Goat../sarc off.


22 posted on 01/30/2010 5:07:42 AM PST by sarah fan UK
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To: sarah fan UK
You forgot eeeeeevil RINO.

And a few others.........

:-)

23 posted on 01/30/2010 5:15:53 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: tedbel
Some folks do not understand the genius it takes to deliver things in a simple manner. Sarah has an incredible mind with the ability to boil “crap” down to the simplest common denominator...that is an incredible gift...

The intellectuals who ponder and pontificate are unable to get to the simple stuff....I know folks like that, we all do...60 sentences to say: OK

Sarah Palin is brilliant and smarter with better common sense than anyone running for office, or currently in office.....She is also brave enough and dedicated to America and her people to STILL run and open herself up to criticism from dumb TV hosts and NY Times writers who have accomplished nothing in life but getting a job....no responsibility to the lives and fortunes of other, etc.....

Madam President has a vision and brilliance limited by their inability to see things in simple terms....

It's called common SENSE because it is both obvious, universal and CORRECT.

24 posted on 01/30/2010 5:24:48 AM PST by The Wizard (I support Madam President, the only President in America today)
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To: Lakeshark

Slipping up!


25 posted on 01/30/2010 5:29:19 AM PST by sarah fan UK
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To: sarah fan UK
This was an interesting article, yes?

The Palin hater 1%ers will find the thread soon, but if they address the article, they're going to, as usual, look petulant and dour.

Heck, even if they read and address the article they're going to look like that.......

26 posted on 01/30/2010 5:34:25 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Great FB post indeed. You can guarantee though that the LSM will studiously ignore it so having 1.24m potential readers and distributors on FB isn’t a bad fall back position. Expect the haters to zoom in with something really profound like ‘zzzzzz nothing happening here’. Seems to be a favourite.


27 posted on 01/30/2010 5:45:57 AM PST by sarah fan UK
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To: Daisyjane69; All

If you think I believe Palin is stupid, you need to review my post history. That characterization is both wrong and uninformed.

I’m simply disappointed that when she was asked specifics, she didn’t give any. And Greta prompted her again, giving her another chance and she still didn’t. These are the kinds of moments that make OTHERS assume she is stupid, which I do not believe for one second.
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Oh YES She did, She did give specifics with Greta, like in her facebook months ago she talked about 4 basic things, two of them were here in the interview:

PALIN: I don’t know anybody who is not in favor of some kind of health care reform so that we can start getting our hands around the growing costs of health care. I think everybody wants to see that. But we want common sense solutions, Greta. We do want that **tort reform**...

VAN SUSTEREN: Like what?

PALIN: At least put it — at least put it on the table to discuss. **And we do want those lines that are barriers between states to not allow somebody from one state to be able to competitively get out there and look for a better deal on insurance in another state — why not have those on the table for discussion?**

And this is my point is that Republicans have addressed these. They have put these forward. And yet they’re not even discussed, not in those backroom deals, not in those closed door sessions that the Democrats and the lobbyists are engaged in. That’s quite discouraging for the American public, who is asking for these common sense, these market-oriented, patient-driven and patient-centered solutions to be discussed.


28 posted on 01/30/2010 5:51:54 AM PST by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: sarah fan UK
How's the weather out there today? Are you still being globully warmed?
29 posted on 01/30/2010 5:52:43 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Daisyjane69

She did give two specifics in the interview

PALIN: I don’t know anybody who is not in favor of some kind of health care reform so that we can start getting our hands around the growing costs of health care. I think everybody wants to see that. But we want common sense solutions, Greta. We do want that ****tort reform...*****

VAN SUSTEREN: Like what?

PALIN: At least put it — at least put it on the table to discuss.**** And we do want those lines that are barriers between states to not allow somebody from one state to be able to competitively get out there and look for a better deal on insurance in another state — why not have those on the table for discussion?******

And this is my point is that Republicans have addressed these. They have put these forward. And yet they’re not even discussed, not in those backroom deals, not in those closed door sessions that the Democrats and the lobbyists are engaged in. That’s quite discouraging for the American public, who is asking for these common sense, these market-oriented, patient-driven and patient-centered solutions to be discussed.


30 posted on 01/30/2010 5:53:25 AM PST by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: Lakeshark

LOl! Nope it’s bright and sunny in the West Midlands today but -3 deg C including wind chill. How about you?


31 posted on 01/30/2010 5:57:06 AM PST by sarah fan UK
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To: Man50D
Palin isn't using any common sense supporting McAmnesty.

I couldn't agree more.

32 posted on 01/30/2010 6:00:27 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: sarah fan UK
Lake Michigan is beginning to freeze up around the shore, we reached about 12°. F here early this morning.

Thankfully, no polar bears on the ice floes yet.........

33 posted on 01/30/2010 6:03:40 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Right Wing Assault
“While I don’t wish to speak too harshly about President Obama’s state of the union address...

The conservatives always put themselves on defense when criticizing the opposition...drives me nuts. Sharks don't assume a defensive posture before they tear your leg off; neither should conservatives when confronting their opponents. Sarah's piece would have had more power had she deleted that first line.

34 posted on 01/30/2010 6:13:45 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Daisyjane69

It’s time to accept simple fact that Gov. Palin knows what she is doing (no matter how hard it is for some people). Sarah is not the President, Obama is! She is not even running for anything! It is ridiculous to expect from a private citizen immediate solutions for the enormous problems the country faces on many fronts. She doesn’t have the full weight of federal government behind her to formulate opinions and policies - Obama does! I agree: she is framing the debate, not allowing her critics to slice and dice her every word in their endless attempts to destroy her.
As for details, read her Facebook posts!


35 posted on 01/30/2010 6:31:58 AM PST by exinnj
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To: upsdriver

I agree, She doesn’t want to tip her hand right now. And, I imagine, like most conservatives, her answers would be, cut taxes, spending, get government out of our lives, etc. You know, the talking points. I wouldn’t give the press any fodder either.


36 posted on 01/30/2010 6:32:21 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: sarah fan UK

Don’t forget Rush ghostwrote ‘Going Rogue’ and writes her FB posts.


37 posted on 01/30/2010 6:36:49 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: tedbel
rules...


38 posted on 01/30/2010 6:41:11 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: FrankR

Post #11 is brilliant. Go back and read it again. Thanks Frank


39 posted on 01/30/2010 6:43:15 AM PST by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: rintense

LOL - yeah I know. Sarah probably doesn’t actually exist at all.


40 posted on 01/30/2010 6:47:18 AM PST by sarah fan UK
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To: FrankR

AMEN!!!!.....The solutions are simple, as far as what made this country great and could again.....It might sound repetitive, but it IS THAT SIMPLE......And she knows it....I wonder what Andrew Jackson would think of a federal government that actually freezes bank accounts, puts liens on citizens property, have made it criminal for children to pray in school ect........


41 posted on 01/30/2010 7:40:40 AM PST by 3722535r
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To: sarah fan UK

Exactly!

I mean really! Governor, mother of 4, runner, hunter, grandmother… it’s obvious we’re dealing with at least 4-5 very attractive mid-40’s women who are being fed right-wing talking points (no doubt through one of those high tech earpieces, like they have on Leverage).

Still voting for her (or them).

= )


42 posted on 01/30/2010 8:19:16 AM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: upsdriver

” If Sarah Palin has specifics to offer and if she intends to run for higher office, she will want to release her agenda at a time of her choosing and not at Greta’s.”

Well stated....

When the time is right, she will unload....


43 posted on 01/30/2010 8:23:26 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: Daisyjane69
"If you think I believe Palin is stupid, you need to review my post history. That characterization is both wrong and uninformed."

Please be advised that because I don't know your "post history" does not make me "wrong" OR "uninformed". Knowing your agenda and political leanings is not my mission in life, and frankly I don't feel I need to do background searches on the writer of every post to which I wish to respond. All I did is respond to your one (1) post.


"I’m simply disappointed that when she was asked specifics, she didn’t give any. And Greta prompted her again, giving her another chance and she still didn’t. These are the kinds of moments that make OTHERS assume she is stupid, which I do not believe for one second.

First of all, Greta is a democrat, or at least a democrat supporter; the last time I looked, she had donated campaign funds to the democrat party; secondly, drilling Palin for "specifics" is a Katy Couric tactic intended to trap Sarah and it is cheap, "gotcha journalism". Why else would she do it? I see Greta trying to drive other conservatives she interviews to the center all the time. Never forget that she is a "lawyer", first and foremost.

Sarah Palin is a Fox News CONTRIBUTOR (a job - IMHO - she should never have accepted), she's not just another casual interviewee, which is how everyone, except Hannity (the only true conservative on FOX), has treated her so far. She should receive the courtesy of being their "peer", not serve as their punching bag.

Beck and O'Reilly tried the same tactic when she was on their show. They are all drooling to be the "first" to know whether or not she intends to run for President, and it's running out both sides of their mouths.



"The President’s SOTU speech was available before it was delivered, released online ahead of time. She had ample opportunity to put a substitute response together, with specifics. I’m simply disappointed that she didn’t."

You must watch CNN or something, because I watched that build up closely, and distinctly heard them say that only his "talking points" were released in advance, and the full text of the speech was only released a short time before the speech. Didn't she do her analysis from her home in Alaska? Maybe someone conveniently forgot to fax her the talking points...not that it matters.

I'm sort of a political junkie, retired, all kids grown, and even I didn't have time took look up the kenyan's speech text, or his talking points...nor did I have any interest in it as he was going to give it live very shortly anyway.

No doubt you're still disappointed she didn't rattle off the "Bush Doctrine" to "Kommandant" Charlie Gibson too.



"Well if you don’t care, I suggest you start NOW. Because, believe it or not, I talk to people every day who are willing to ignore the content of what the Idiot in Chief is saying, in order to note how he “sounds.”

Oh...you SUGGEST that I do that huh? (Did you go to the barack obama School of Tact and Decorum?)

Well, if that kind of talk from people influences you, then you're one of them, and I pity all of you. You started off this rebuttle complaining that Sarah didn't have "specifics" and now you end it with she didn't "sound" right? Which is it?

B.S. artists, like obama, can rant for hours on any subject, and make the unknowing believe every word he says, and even nominate him for the Nobel prize. He would be a lot more palatable and believable if once in a while he would just say, "I don't know, but I'll check".

The fact that Sarah does not possess the "B.S. gene" is NOT any reflection on her governing ability or her intelligence. I am certain that if she made any promises to America, she would do what she promised, or get on TV and tell us why not.

There are two kinds of knowledge - knowing a thing, and knowing how and where to find out. I would really rather have the latter as a President. I believe that whatever the subject, Sarah would throughly research it and KNOW what she was talking about before the cameras rolled. The facts would be more current. She wouldn't just walk out there like obama and start smiling at the camera and reeling off phoney baloney facts to impress the ignorant.

She did her job as Governor very well, and whenever the subject comes up and she talks about it, you can tell she knew what she was doing, especially in the areas of energy, and cleaning up corruption.

There's a saying in the martial arts, "There is no defense for a sucker punch.". A sucker punch is exactly what Beck, O'Reilly, and now Greta have delivered to Sarah. She has no more way of knowing what THEY are going to ask than she did Couric and Gibson.

All of those shows are opinion and pundit shows, but Sarah gets a "pop quiz". "OK Alex, I'll take 'knowledge about everything' for a thousand".

Speaking of research, maybe you could look at HER speeches sometime, or even sign up on Facebook to her page. Her ideas, opinons, and subject knowledge are excellent when not in "pop quiz" mode from salivating journalists.



"And unfortunately for the rest of us, they get to vote. "

Yes, you do."
44 posted on 01/30/2010 8:37:24 AM PST by FrankR (The ones of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Daisyjane69
Just for your convenience, I went and copied Sarah Palins response to the SOTU address from her Facebook page...looks pretty SPECIFIC to me.




CREDIBILITY GAP
by Sarah Palin


While I don’t wish to speak too harshly about President Obama’s state of the union address, we live in challenging times that call for candor. I call them as I see them, and I hope my frank assessment will be taken as an honest effort to move this conversation forward.

Last night, the president spoke of the “credibility gap” between the public’s expectations of their leaders and what those leaders actually deliver. “Credibility gap” is a good way to describe the chasm between rhetoric and reality in the president’s address. The contradictions seemed endless.

He called for Democrats and Republicans to “work through our differences,” but last year he dismissed any notion of bipartisanship when he smugly told Republicans, “I won.”

He talked like a Washington “outsider,” but he runs Washington! He’s had everything any president could ask for – an overwhelming majority in Congress and a fawning press corps that feels tingles every time he speaks. There was nothing preventing him from pursuing “common sense” solutions all along. He didn’t pursue them because they weren’t his priorities, and he spent his speech blaming Republicans for the problems caused by his own policies.

He dared us to “let him know” if we have a better health care plan, but he refused to allow Republicans in on the negotiations or consider any ideas for real free market and patient-centered reforms. We’ve been “letting him know” our ideas for months from the town halls to the tea parties, but he isn’t interested in listening. Instead he keeps making the nonsensical claim that his massive trillion-dollar health care bill won’t increase the deficit.

Americans are suffering from job losses and lower wages, yet the president practically demanded applause when he mentioned tax cuts, as if allowing people to keep more of their own hard-earned money is an act of noblesse oblige. He claims that he cut taxes, but I must have missed that. I see his policies as paving the way for massive tax increases and inflation, which is the “hidden tax” that most hurts the poor and the elderly living on fixed incomes.

He condemned lobbyists, but his White House is filled with former lobbyists, and this has been a banner year for K Street with his stimulus bill, aka the Lobbyist’s Full Employment Act. He talked about a “deficit of trust” and the need to “do our work in the open,” but he chased away the C-SPAN cameras and cut deals with insurance industry lobbyists behind closed doors.

He spoke of doing what’s best for the next generation and not leaving our children with a “mountain of debt,” but under his watch this year, government spending is up by 22%, and his budget will triple our national debt.

He spoke of a spending freeze, but doesn’t he realize that each new program he’s proposing comes with a new price tag? A spending freeze is a nice idea, but it doesn’t address the root cause of the problem. We need a comprehensive examination of the role of government spending. The president’s deficit commission is little more than a bipartisan tax hike committee, lending political cover to raise taxes without seriously addressing the problem of spending.

He condemned bailouts, but he voted for them and then expanded and extended them. He praised the House’s financial reform bill, but where was Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in that bill? He still hasn’t told us when we’ll be getting out of the auto and the mortgage industries. He praised small businesses, but he’s spent the past year as a friend to big corporations and their lobbyists, who always find a way to make government regulations work in their favor at the expense of their mom & pop competitors.

He praised the effectiveness of his stimulus bill, but then he called for another one – this time cleverly renamed a “jobs bill.” The first stimulus was sold to us as a jobs bill that would keep unemployment under 8%. We now have double digit unemployment with no end in sight. Why should we trust this new “jobs bill”?

He talked about “making tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development,” but apparently it’s still too tough for his Interior Secretary to move ahead with Virginia’s offshore oil and gas leases. If they’re dragging their feet on leases, how long will it take them to build “safe, clean nuclear power plants”? Meanwhile, he continued to emphasize “green jobs,” which require massive government subsidies for inefficient technologies that can’t survive on their own in the real world of the free market.

He spoke of supporting young girls in Afghanistan who want to go to school and young women in Iran who courageously protest in the streets, but where were his words of encouragement to the young girls of Afghanistan in his West Point speech? And where was his support for the young women of Iran when they were being gunned down in the streets of Tehran?

Despite speaking for over an hour, the president only spent 10% of his speech on foreign policy, and he left us with many unanswered questions. Does he still think trying the 9/11 terrorists in New York is a good idea? Does he still think closing Gitmo is a good idea? Does he still believe in Mirandizing terrorists after the Christmas bomber fiasco? Does he believe we’re in a war against terrorists, or does he think this is just a global crime spree? Does he understand that the first priority of our government is to keep our country safe?

In his address last night, the president once again revealed that there’s a fundamental disconnect between what the American people expect from their government, and what he wants to deliver. He’s still proposing failed top-down big government solutions to our problems. Instead of smaller, smarter government, he’s taken a government that was already too big and supersized it.

Real private sector jobs are created when taxes are low, investment is high, and people are free to go about their business without the heavy hand of government. The president thinks innovation comes from government subsidies. Common sense conservatives know innovation comes from unleashing the creative energy of American entrepreneurs.

Everything seems to be “unexpected” to this administration: unexpected job losses; unexpected housing numbers; unexpected political losses in Massachusetts, Virginia, and New Jersey. True leaders lead best when confronted with the unexpected. But instead of leading us, the president lectured us. He lectured Wall Street; he lectured Main Street; he lectured Congress; he even lectured our Supreme Court Justices.

He criticized politicians who “wage a perpetual campaign,” but he gave a campaign speech instead of a state of the union address. The campaign is over, and President Obama now has something that candidate Obama never had: an actual track record in office. We now can see the failed policies behind the flowery words. If Americans feel as cynical as the president suggests, perhaps it’s because the audacity of his recycled rhetoric no longer inspires hope.

Real leadership requires results. Real hope lies in the ingenuity, generosity, and boundless courage of the American people whose voices are still not being heard in Washington.

- Sarah Palin

45 posted on 01/30/2010 8:55:17 AM PST by FrankR (The ones of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: FrankR

Sir, you just made my point for me. I rest my case.

What I said, early on this thread, was that I wished she had incorporated more of her Facebook thoughts (which are excellent, IMO) into her on-screen answers.

See my post # 10.


46 posted on 01/30/2010 11:58:50 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69
"See my post # 10. "

No....Madam...I didn't just make your case. My original response to you was from your post #5; followed by a response to your post #15.

YOUR POST #10 - AS I JUST CHECKED - WAS TO ANOTHER FREEPER, NOT ME. UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU POST TO SOMEONE ELSE, IT DOES NOT COME UP ON MY "PINGS"...SO I NEVER SAW THAT ONE.

Obviously you studied numbering and reading at CNN too.

Now, do me a favor, while you're resting your "case", rest your fingers too, I'm done with you. Have a nice life.
47 posted on 01/30/2010 4:52:03 PM PST by FrankR (The ones of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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