Posted on 02/01/2010 3:55:18 AM PST by mlizzy
Ever feel like both Republicans and Democrats are just puppets on a stage of distraction? Glenn Beck has been explaining why to millions of captivated Americans. It's the Progressive movement and it attacks the Constitution from BOTH parties. If you haven't been watching his show, you need to.
Glenn explains how Progressivism has been with us since the turn of the century. It isn't discussed in textbooks because President Woodrow Wilson and Walter Litman were part of the "Council of Foreign Relations" whose goal it was to change history as we knew it through education and the media. The movement (alive and well today) is out to replace our beloved Constitution with a philosophy that the elite should rule. Woodrow Wilson said, "Justly revered as our great Constitution is, it could be stripped off and thrown aside like a garment and the nation will still stand forth..." He said the preamble of the Constitution should never be read and the Declaration of Independence has zero relevance to any other age other than 1776.
I never heard that in school...
Academic elites hold George Bernard Shaw dearly in their hearts. Are they aware he was a Progressive that said, "I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly-appointed board, just as they might come before the income tax commissioner, and say every five years, or every seven years, just put them there, and say, "Sir, or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you're not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the big organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive ...
(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...
Glenn Beck is OUTSTANDING! He,...
3. Resonates very well with women. (speaking from personal experience and my wife’s enthusiasm/activism)
2. Names, names. (of these cretins)
1. Calls you to action.
As per your example, if a patient has 95% cancer, the prudent thing to do is prescribe a morphine drip and let nature take its course because the prognosis is terminal. Yes maybe one or two will survive but our efforts will be better spent reviving the survivable patient with 35% cancer. But, I do disagree with the premise that the Democrats are 95% cancer. The current federal elected Democrats are 100% cancer.
If you do want to salvage the Democrat party, I suggest cutting out the cancer by encouraging a split in the Democrat party. We should actively seek to isolate and marginalize the socialists by creating a split Democrat party. This is the third party that we should all support.
What I mean by first things first relates to priority and effort. We can work on two things at essentially the same time but spend more time and effort on one thing over the other. I hope that you would agree that there are many more progressive dragons to slew in the Democrat party than in the Republican party. Don’t be seduced by Beck so much that you believe in his false equation that Democrat = Republican on an aggregate basis. Beck continually perpetuates this misconception and that is counterproductive. He does this by implicitly but very consciously stating WITHOUT QUALIFICATION that Democrats and Republicans are both bad. Ann Coulter corrected Beck by saying that all Democrats are bad and too many Republicans are bad.
As far as strategy is concerned, reforming the Democrats will likely require a split and destruction of their current structure. This means that we should actively seek to split (and thus destroy)the current Democrat party.
Thomas Jefferson
I love Glenn Beck. Although sometimes he can seem a bit out there, he’s right on target and I love his take and break down of things. I love how his shows are like a history class or a civil economics class, with a teacher who adds humor and great illustration (chalkboards anyone?)
God Bless him for speaking out (with his forum) when no one else will.
I say that we have a “Shadow” third party already. It's the “Progressive” movement and exists in some form in both parties.
Yes, “We should actively seek to isolate and marginalize the socialists” in both parties, splitting both.
I will not argue the 95% cancerous Democratic party, neither will I argue the 35% cancerous republican party. I happen to think both values are to kind
I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008
Republicans may not be as bad as progressives, but they sure are jumping on the band wagon and not doing anything to stop their NWO agenda.
I see ole Charlie Crist is there. What a shock. /s
That deserves it’s own thread. Excellent read.
in a two party system... does it matter which party is in power when your rights are stripped from you...
the repubs are just as guilty, they work on a slower pace.
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in what way... they give organizations like unions, corporations and organizations the same rights as individuals... ie free speech via contributions... the voices of the people will be lost forever.
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It's going to be easier to replace Crist with Rubio, or Specter with Toomey, that it is to replace Pelosi with somebody who doesn't vote 100% with NARAL and NAMBLA. Those are the changes that count, changes that mean a vote changes to the more conservative. And getting Rubio and Toomey elected might mean that Collins and Snowe start to toe the line.
I agree fully that we need conservative candidates and we can get them in the primaries. This is the best way to gain control of the republic.
I just hope that you don’t buy the subtle Beck line of equating Democrats with Republicans. Beck easily can mislead some into forming a populist 3rd party and split the conservative vote. Don’t think that others haven’t noticed Beck’s flawed equation. Rush, Levin, Coulter, and Hannity have all been tangentially critical of some of Beck’s foolish stunts. Remember when Beck nailed those coffins. How about when Beck constantly says that Republicans and Democrats both bad without qualifying his statements. Beck has even argued for a VAT as long as it would be used for debt reduction. Would you trust the federal government with a VAT?
Beck is a good history teacher. But no one should fall into the 3rd party trap. If Beck becomes more obvious with endorsing a 3rd party, his game will be up. But, Beck is a smart guy and I don’t think he will give up his meal ticket. Beck should stick to the history lessons and as 0bama criticizer.
Glenn has a point. The Republican Party has a strong progressive streak, and the streak has to be stifled or the party needs to be flushed. The jury is out right now on whether the Republican Party can be changed enough.
Thomas Jefferson
Worth another BUMP!...(and GRRRREAT tagline!)
Lots of good stuff in this thread BUMP! Thanks to all posters.
The Republican party MUST be reformed and returned to its conservative roots. There is not enough time to build a 3rd party and save the nation from 0bama and his acolytes. As I have stated, the best way to win is with conservative candidates. I certainly DO NOT support Dole, Bush, McCain et al over conservatives like DeMint and Marc Rubio. So there is no need for a straw man argument here. But if it’s an unfortunate situation of a rino over a Dem in a general election, the choice is obvious: the stakes are just too high this year to sit in the corner and suck our thumbs.
I am a member of my county and local tea party patriots. The overwhelming view among members of both organizations is that the Democrats must be defeated by all means. I have not actually met anyone advocating for a third party.
Let me give you a practical example. I live in Wisconsin and there is a novice (Dave Westlake) without any political or business experience running against Feingold for senate. He has raised only a few thousand dollars and has no chance of winning. Tommy Thompson was a very popular governor but does have some rino tendencies. Thompson could beat Feingold, Westlake does not have a chance. And sorry, he’s no Scott Brown. In this instance, I will support Thompson over Westlake.
Beck has some good things to say. But please don’t follow him over a populist 3rd party cliff. I for one will work hard for unity to defeat the Dems and I will also work hard to stop those who wish to weaken the conservative movement by dividing it.
Keep your eyes and ears open and be mindful of Beck.
Yes thanks to all posters! I wrote the article and will be linking to these comments from it. I have a lot of respect for this site and the posters. Great feedback.
Personally I think Glenn’s point is we need to identify Progressives wherever they are. Right now the predominance is in the Democrat party and Dems are fighting for their lives because the Progressives want them to get on board or get out. But I’m going to be very cautious about who I support in the next elections. I’d like to see Republicans come up with some kind of written proclamation that they are for the Constitution and will endeavor to restore it, then sign it and hold to it. There have been a few obvious positive Amendments we ALL agree on, but much needs to be restored despite mountains of case law that has twisted it beyond any recognition.
Oh and HEY! (wince) I didn’t write “turn of THIS century” now did I? (...failed attempt of coverup of snafu) good catch (blush)
For moderation, I’ve made the changes at blessedcause, not sure if it’s allowed with my last post
http://www.blessedcause.org/Patriots/Glenn%20Beck%20Progressives.htm
But trying to reform the current party conservatives might be unproductive, due to their learning disability.
I'll watch Beck, but also pay attention to what the current Republican Party is doing and who they are supporting.
BTTT! Thanks for being here, and for your work at blessedcause.
HOORAY Glenn Beck!
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