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Gates to present specifics on abandoning 'don't ask, don't tell' policy
CNN ^ | 2 Feb 10 | None listed

Posted on 02/02/2010 3:22:49 AM PST by SkyPilot

Defense Secretary Robert Gates will go before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday to unveil the Pentagon's plan for rolling back the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding gay soldiers.

During last week's State of the Union address, President Obama made clear he wanted a change.

"This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are," he said to a healthy dose of partisan applause.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff have been quiet on the matter since the State of Union, and sat stone-faced as the president made the announcement Wednesday.

A senior Pentagon official told CNN the military leaders are expected to support the president, but also will tell him to what extent they think allowing gays to openly serve will hurt the morale and readiness of the force.

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Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institute said the real test will be in the barracks, with the rank-and-file members of the military.

"We can talk about this delicately or we can just be fairly direct," O'Hanlon said. "There are a lot of 18-year-old, old-fashioned, testosterone-laden men in the military who are tough guys. They're often politically old-fashioned or conservative; they are not necessarily at the vanguard in many cases of accepting alternative forms of lifestyle."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fdrq; gates; gays; homosexual; military; romney; romney4dnc; romney4obama
First of all, the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy is just that, a policy in the Defense Department. It was a political compromise that Hillary and Bill Clinton accepted when they tried to get Congress to change the law. The LAW says homosexuals CANNOT serve openly.

Any "policy" Obama comes up with should change the LAW, but when does what the law say matter to liberals anyway?

Before "Don't Ask" the DoD regulation (based on the law) was to ask recruits if they were homosexual, and to ask the same questions during security clearances and during other events in your career. If it was found out you lied, you were thrown out. If you engaged in homosexual behavior, you were asked to find another career.

The final paragraph from this CNN piece speaks volumes. Michael O'Hanlon (probably homosexual himself) derides our brave troops as a bunch of testosterone, conservative, politically old-fashioned dullards who could not hope to be as enlightened as he and his liberal cohorts, and "accept" this "alternative form of lifestyle."

This "alternative lifestyle" is a disgusting sin, and God Himself has said so. These people have spit in the face of the Almighty, and they have no fear of Him.

I pray they reap what they sow. God will not be mocked.

Finally, Gates is looking at seperate barracks and showers that will be "Gay Only." This is NOT a joke. Can you imagine what these will devolve into?

1 posted on 02/02/2010 3:22:49 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

So Mr. Gates,
Tell me how are you going to feel when you come early and find some old faG queen trying to seduce your grandson?


2 posted on 02/02/2010 3:29:45 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Get out of the peoples house and take that shelf ass ugly woman with ya.)
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To: SkyPilot

I wouldn’t worry about it. When the Republicans take back the house in ‘10, they’ll fight to repeal this obscenity, because the Republican party always has and always stand behind conservative values.

Did I manage that with a straight face?


3 posted on 02/02/2010 3:31:07 AM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: SkyPilot
Its been about 40 years since I have been in a NCO club on the Post anywhere. Back then we had stag bars (no gals) and everything was so easy and laid back. Then they opened it up to both sexes. Next was to do away with the NCO club and make it a all ranks club. God only knows what those clubs are going to be like now ..... !
4 posted on 02/02/2010 3:34:17 AM PST by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrNCO)Military)
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To: SkyPilot
Base supply will issue all service members 1 each homosexual by order of the DOD.
5 posted on 02/02/2010 3:37:14 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Gates is the ultimate “yes man”.


6 posted on 02/02/2010 3:39:30 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: SkyPilot

I wonder what Gates assessment on having Homosexual boy scout leaders is. Gates is an eagle scout. Someone should “probe” him with that question.


7 posted on 02/02/2010 3:43:51 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Joe Boucher

WTF? Obama is an embarassment to this nation. His radical leftist ideas are coming out. He cares nothing about the security of America.


8 posted on 02/02/2010 3:44:55 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: SkyPilot

To Obama. Leave our Military alone you assclown....


9 posted on 02/02/2010 4:02:24 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: SkyPilot

Gates is following the orders of the Bama Boy.

If he was any kind of man, he would tell Obama to take his job and shove it. I aint working here no more.


10 posted on 02/02/2010 4:10:12 AM PST by Venturer
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To: SkyPilot

When I was young and in grade school and they taught us about Sodom and Gomorrah, the question I had was how can a society become so debase as that described in the Bible Story. Back in the time period, in the 50’s, there were no men of questionable moral makeup in prominent positions dictating policy. Different now! Pay attention and vote wisely next election.


11 posted on 02/02/2010 4:10:57 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: SkyPilot
Who cares about Don't Ask Don't Tell right now? That is the least of our concerns.

Obama finds it real easy to get tough on social issues. He doesn't have to balance a budget to do it.

12 posted on 02/02/2010 4:11:05 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (Hey General, I would be honored to have you call me "ma'am" !)
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To: SkyPilot

>>>First of all, the “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy is just that, a policy in the Defense Department. It was a political compromise that Hillary and Bill Clinton accepted when they tried to get Congress to change the law. The LAW says homosexuals CANNOT serve openly.

You are correct. That is more or less the point of the administration’s statement. “I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law” is shoving off the responsibility to congress to change the law. Something they exhibit no great hurry to do. The law could have been changed anytime in the last year. Democrats had the votes, they didn’t have the determination.

It is DOUBLETALK. It sounds good to the target audience but is hollow, it promises nothing. If someday Congress acts they can take credit, and if Congress doesn’t, “Hey it’s not MY fault”. You might have caught that if you had been in less of a hurry to rain down fire and damnation.


13 posted on 02/02/2010 4:14:48 AM PST by tlb
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To: SkyPilot

Major General Barney Fwank, in a few yrs. queers will be the only ones in the military.


14 posted on 02/02/2010 4:28:59 AM PST by Waco (Wanna buy an FBI file,,,See Hillary, she's got 900 of them.)
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To: Waco

Nothing good will come of this. Hate crimes against soldiers and open season on Christian soldiers.


15 posted on 02/02/2010 4:32:43 AM PST by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: SkyPilot

This is totally FUBAR.


16 posted on 02/02/2010 4:44:17 AM PST by TADSLOS (Presidential charisma without repect for liberty is a dangerous trait.)
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To: Waco

In the Taxachuttes vernacular the word is “queeah”

Barney Fwank is queeah


17 posted on 02/02/2010 4:46:54 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: bert
"Barney Fwank is queeah"

Saying such is an exercise in "dwelling on the obvious", sorta like stating "there is a large amount of salt water in the Pacific Ocean..."

18 posted on 02/02/2010 4:49:18 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: SkyPilot

Once the floodgates are opened, there can’t be a partial solution.

In two years, after challenges, we will see LTs Biff and Bill married on the base chapel, and move into base housing, where they will raise their adopted children.

Any “homophobes” who object to any part of this will be thrown out of the military.


19 posted on 02/02/2010 5:29:18 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Jay Howard Smith

You will see gays slow dancing and making out in the base clubs.

Anybody who says a word to object will be court-martialed for hate crimes.


20 posted on 02/02/2010 5:30:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: SkyPilot
I would like to get something resolved in my mind.

A trusted friend (in the USAF) described "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" (DADT) as an envelope that surrounds military regulation. When Clinton put DADT into place, he was instituting a policy that forbade the application of the regulations against deviant homos and the ability of the military to enforce its rules.

My friend said that removing DADT effectively puts the pre-'93 regulations back at the forefront - and in full force. This means that the removal of DADT brings the military BACK to a position where they CAN ASK and CAN enforce the rules against queers in the military.

So, if this is all true...then does 0bama's removal of DADT actually give the military the ability to enforce its codes OR will the military have to also change its existing rules, codes, and regulations?

I'd appreciate some clarification. Thanks.

22 posted on 02/02/2010 5:42:14 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: SkyPilot

>Gates is looking at separate barracks and showers that will be “Gay Only.”

How insensitive to the transgendered, quadsexual, questioning, rosypalms and horned
gerbil seeking others! Are these soldiers left to sleep and shower in torture?

These people have lost their minds.


23 posted on 02/02/2010 6:21:45 AM PST by soycd
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To: SkyPilot

Who is going to want to defend this screwed up country?


24 posted on 02/02/2010 10:27:38 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: SkyPilot
"This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are,"

See? Who you are is defined specifically by your vices. Our Dear Leader told us so.
25 posted on 02/02/2010 10:29:51 AM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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To: Venturer

People shouldn’t be surprised Bisexual Berry wants gays to flaunt their lifestyle in the military. He’s a pathetic excuse for a man. It makes me sick to think about Berry and his tutu wearing buddy playing hide the salami in the white house.


26 posted on 02/02/2010 10:41:51 AM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: kinsman redeemer
The law is the law, unless Congress changes is. But, Democrats don't follow the law. "Executive Order" and judicial fiat rule the day. Who will hold Obama and the Democrats responsible if he orders Gates to change the "policy", and Gates does so?

If you read the news, the gears are already changing. Gates has already ordered a "tolerance" during the "process." What the homosexuals really want is acceptance, applause for what they do, and to force the military members to comply with this deviancy. Moreover, the "hate crimes" regulations to accompany this travesty will be draconian and tyrannical.

27 posted on 02/02/2010 11:03:49 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
So Gays in the military will be OK, but a young man with too may tattoos is not?

Good grief.

28 posted on 02/02/2010 11:21:56 AM PST by Grazie (Serving those who served)
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To: SkyPilot
Russians are already mocking our military, and Russia Todayhas a cartoon - drawn after the Marines raising the US flag on Iwo Jima - of raising the gay flag.
29 posted on 02/03/2010 9:34:38 AM PST by Dante3
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