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Danny Williams going to U.S. for heart surgery (Canadian Premier bypasses Socialism)
CBC News ^ | 2/2/10 | CBC Staff

Posted on 02/02/2010 7:33:49 AM PST by FormerACLUmember

Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams is set to undergo heart surgery this week in the United States.

CBC News confirmed Monday that Williams, 60, left the province earlier in the day and will have surgery later in the week.

The premier's office provided few details, beyond confirming that he would have heart surgery and saying that it was not necessarily a routine procedure.

Deputy Premier Kathy Dunderdale is scheduled to hold a news conference Tuesday morning.

She's expected to provide more details about Williams's condition, as well as how the provincial government will function during his absence.

CBC reporter David Cochrane said Williams appeared to be in good health recently. He described the premier as "fairly active," playing pick-up hockey at least once a week when work permits.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010; bhohealthcare; canada; clevelandclinic; healthcare; heart; hypocrisy; obama; obamacare; socialism; socializedmedicine; surgery
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Crooked democrats/socialists will NEVER permit themselves of their loved ones be treated with the same third rate medical care they coerce on the proletariat.
1 posted on 02/02/2010 7:33:49 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: FormerACLUmember
To make the hypocrisy even more grotesque, the provincial plan will reimburse this dirtbag for all his private care in the USA.

The rulling class of socialists give themselves waivers for full coverage of treatment in the USA. No third rate Canadian medical care for them!

Places like the Cleveland Clinic make big money off of connected Canadians, primarily from OHIP, the Ontario Health Insurance Plan.

2 posted on 02/02/2010 7:39:02 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

another stunning example of Gov’t run health care!!


3 posted on 02/02/2010 7:41:25 AM PST by rosco coltrain
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To: fanfan

PING!


4 posted on 02/02/2010 7:44:54 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Perhaps we can get some of these rich, Canadian Socialists to campaign against Obamacare. Where would Canuckastani liberals go for medical care if the US became Canada-South?


5 posted on 02/02/2010 7:45:41 AM PST by Redcloak (Don't try this at home... I'm a professional!)
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To: fanfan

What is a “Progressive Conservative?”


6 posted on 02/02/2010 7:49:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: FormerACLUmember

Well for one thing, I hope his procedure goes well. Hopefully this will be an enlightening experience for him and he will see the error of his ways.


7 posted on 02/02/2010 7:49:50 AM PST by MNReaganite (All great change in America begins at the dinner table.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Well, well, well.


8 posted on 02/02/2010 7:51:17 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I made a point of copying this story to an email and sending it to my network.

ObaMao has heightened awareness of socialized medicine and now we have a present example of how top politicians respond to their health needs.


9 posted on 02/02/2010 7:51:53 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: 1rudeboy

confused.


10 posted on 02/02/2010 7:52:18 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: FormerACLUmember

So if/when the Pelosi/Reid/Obama nationalized healthcare plan passes, where will the common class go for heart surgery?


11 posted on 02/02/2010 7:54:39 AM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

The irony is so thick, i can barely see.


12 posted on 02/02/2010 7:55:31 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: FormerACLUmember
But there on FR who insist that reports that Canadians come to America for medical care are erroneous or exaggerated.
13 posted on 02/02/2010 7:58:38 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Don't fall for the Global Warming hysteria.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

How can this be? Our healthcare system is broken! How is it possible that someone with access to the wonders of single-payer universal healthcare like the glorious Canadian system would come to Cleveland of all places and subject himself to our broken system?


14 posted on 02/02/2010 7:58:59 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: FormerACLUmember; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; ...
The rulling class of socialists give themselves waivers for full coverage of treatment in the USA. No third rate Canadian medical care for them!

Places like the Cleveland Clinic make big money off of connected Canadians, primarily from OHIP, the Ontario Health Insurance Plan.

Well said, and interesting post, FormerACLUmember... thanks.

15 posted on 02/02/2010 7:59:02 AM PST by nutmeg (Congratulations Senator-elect Scott Brown!!! Gas up the truck!!!)
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To: 1rudeboy
What is a “Progressive Conservative?”

John McCain? Lindsey Graham? Arnold? New Newt?

16 posted on 02/02/2010 7:59:27 AM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

ObaMao insists that Medicare/Medicaid is an example of socialized medicine being accepted by Americans and working in America. Except it’s the insured consumers and private pay customers who pay for the SHORTFALL that the socialized medicine patients are not paying.

Once everyone is under socialized medicine, there will be no one left to bill $5 for an asprin or $80 for a 5 minute visit to the doctor or $250 for an x-ray.


17 posted on 02/02/2010 8:01:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Don't fall for the Global Warming hysteria.)
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To: lonestar

It’s a serious question, because it looks like a Progressive Conservative is someone who cuts taxes and spending. In other words, the folks on your list might fall to the left of this guy.


18 posted on 02/02/2010 8:04:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: FormerACLUmember

bfl


19 posted on 02/02/2010 8:04:51 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: FormerACLUmember

He doesn’t look a thing like Bill Clinton.


20 posted on 02/02/2010 8:06:28 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Once everyone is under socialized medicine, there will be no one left to bill $5 for an asprin or $80 for a 5 minute visit to the doctor or $250 for an x-ray.

That's the dirty little secret. That and the fact that doctors and nurses will have to have their salaries capped for the simple reason you have more people chasing the same amount of medical services. Who's going to want to go into medicine only to become a civil servant?

21 posted on 02/02/2010 8:09:52 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: vox_freedom
So if/when the Pelosi/Reid/Obama nationalized healthcare plan passes, where will the common class go for heart surgery?

No where.

You are dead.

22 posted on 02/02/2010 8:17:08 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2510700

another/different article....


23 posted on 02/02/2010 8:18:07 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: a fool in paradise
But there on FR who insist that reports that Canadians come to America for medical care are erroneous or exaggerated.

I know exactly who they are. They are notorious trolls. Probably just one single troll.

24 posted on 02/02/2010 8:18:53 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Let me guess...he’s a BIG proponent of Canada’s Marxist health care system, right?


25 posted on 02/02/2010 8:20:37 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: 1rudeboy
What is a “Progressive Conservative?”

It's like a RINO, only worse.

26 posted on 02/02/2010 8:22:56 AM PST by TankerKC (No government employees were harmed in the slashing of this budget.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Tea Party around the hospital the day his work is being done?????

Just Sayin’


27 posted on 02/02/2010 8:28:48 AM PST by GraceG
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To: 1rudeboy

A big liar.


28 posted on 02/02/2010 8:32:02 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: YankeeReb

There’s things we can do to make medical costs “fair” where all consumers are paying the SAME price for the SAME services from the same doctor (different doctors in different may still charge different rates).

But “professional discounts”, pre-negotiated discounts, federal discounts, etc. mean that someone else is picking up the difference (getting gouged).

Tort reform would also help (and one of the billion dollar trial lawyers killed himself driving recklessly this year, while John Edwards has put a fork in his career as a trial lawyer with his public scandals).

Interstate insurance may get rates down but as it is, the specifics of each state’s laws (something not under federal reach) means that some insurance companies won’t WANT to provide coverage in some states. Which doesn’t mean that opening up the market won’t make prices drop, it just doesn’t ensure it.

And requiring everyone to get insurance won’t make rates drop. That was Not-my-Mahhh Richard’s excuse in Texas when driver’s insurance became a requirement.

When are we going to require that all people along the coast carry flood and storm damage insurance? And people in California required to carry fire and earthquake insurance? We won’t need another “FEMA bailout” for a disaster area ever again.


29 posted on 02/02/2010 8:33:18 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Don't fall for the Global Warming hysteria.)
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To: Redcloak
Perhaps we can get some of these rich, Canadian Socialists to campaign against Obamacare. Where would Canuckastani liberals go for medical care if the US became Canada-South?

They could always go here:Click for "Medical Tourism"

30 posted on 02/02/2010 8:36:15 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Maybe the Canadian people will learn something from this?

//sarc


31 posted on 02/02/2010 8:36:43 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: YankeeReb

We have cops making $86000 while in jail and suspended teachers making $100,000.

Civil Servants my left little toe.


32 posted on 02/02/2010 8:38:27 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: FormerACLUmember; pookie18
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33 posted on 02/02/2010 8:38:42 AM PST by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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To: FormerACLUmember

>> The rulling class of socialists give themselves waivers for full coverage of treatment in the USA. No third rate Canadian medical care for them! <<

But they NEED only the best care a Capitalistic system can provide because they need to be in tip top shape so they can take “care” of us for “our own good”.

If our “benevolent leaders” are sick or infirm how can they “provide” us the services that can only be provided by a “kind and caring” bureaucracy.


34 posted on 02/02/2010 8:40:33 AM PST by GraceG
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To: 1rudeboy

Was your question was a serious one?

“The party adopted the “Progressive Conservative” party name in 1942 when Manitoba Premier John Bracken, a long-time leader of that province’s Progressive Party, agreed to become leader of the Conservatives on condition that the party add Progressive to its name. Despite the name change, most former Progressive supporters continued to support the Liberal Party or the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation, and Bracken’s leadership of the Conservative Party came to an end in 1948. Many Canadians still simply referred to the party as “the Conservatives”.” (Wikipedia)

It worked for a while—Diefenbaker in the 1950s. But then Pierre Trudeau blew away the Tories in the mid-1960s and the Conservatives tried to be nothing but Trudeau-lite and lost every election for the next 16 years.

So, yes, it is a lot like RINOdom, but with a difference: RINOs keep claiming to be real conservatives when they aren’t. Canadian Progressive-Conservatives were honest enough to admit that they wanted to be Trudeau-lite.

Fools.


35 posted on 02/02/2010 8:46:24 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

Actually, they lost almost every election for the next 20 years. The little interlude with Joe Clark in 1979-1980 was a joke.


36 posted on 02/02/2010 8:47:56 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: FormerACLUmember
Williams seeks heart surgery in U.S. because it is not available in N.L.
37 posted on 02/02/2010 8:50:02 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I believe we call them RINO’s..


38 posted on 02/02/2010 8:50:58 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (A moderate muslim is one who is simply buying time to reload..)
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To: Houghton M.

Progressive Conservative in Canada = Moderate Left wing Democrat here on earth.


39 posted on 02/02/2010 8:52:18 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: Houghton M.

And then an even worse disaster in 1993, for another 10 years in the wilderness. So for 30 out of 40 years they were on the outs, all by trying to be Liberal-Lite. And then they went the way of the Whigs, as it were, when the Alliance took over the party 2003-2004. The “Progressive” part finally got a decent burial.


40 posted on 02/02/2010 8:54:19 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: TankerKC
What is a “Progressive Conservative?”

It's like a RINO, only worse.

Well sort of but understand that this is Canada, yuh know. The whole place is so far to the left that the PCs are naturally going to have to swish lots of water in with that wine or they will be out of office.... at least regardless of whether that is correct or not, that's the perception. That becomes a tough choice for decent politicians and as an example, Stephen Harper is probably playing it about as well as it could possibly be played. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will be Canada's return to a reasonable facscimile of conservatism

Back to the theme of this article, the fact that the Premier did not have the operation in Newfoundland is scarcely surprising. This would sort of needing an operation but living in the northwestern quadrant of Alaska. A great place to visit but seriously lacking in modern facilities. However, the fact that he didn't have the operation somewhere else in Canada does in fact say everything that one needs to know about the state of socialized medicine north of the 49th.

41 posted on 02/02/2010 8:58:45 AM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest... ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: mewzilla
Treatment not available in Canada?

That's his story and he is sticking to it.

I don't fault this guy for wanting proper care

It is his flaming dishonesty and hypocrisy that makes him a dirtbag. He condemns the people of Canada to treatment that he woul never allow for himself or his loved ones. The proletariat don't get their US healthcare paid for by Canadian insurance. No private care for them!


42 posted on 02/02/2010 8:59:53 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: 1rudeboy
It’s a serious question, because it looks like a Progressive Conservative is someone who cuts taxes and spending.

Doesn't that define "conservative?"

IMO, my list are progressives but not as far out as those who call themselves "progressive"...Barry and Hill come to mind.

What is a progressive conservative? A compassionate conservative?

43 posted on 02/02/2010 9:00:16 AM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: MNReaganite

It won’t.

Elitists feel entitled to better resources than the serfs.

And every lib, from the president down to the hemp stinkinest dreadlocked hippy kid in your local junior college thinks that he’ll be one of the ones holding the whip instead of being under its lash.


44 posted on 02/02/2010 9:01:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: 1rudeboy
What is a “Progressive Conservative?”

That's Canadian for "RINO".

45 posted on 02/02/2010 9:03:20 AM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: OnTheDress
Thanks, OTD! Will rerun in Friday's thread.


46 posted on 02/02/2010 9:09:31 AM PST by pookie18 (Palin/Cheney '12)
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To: a fool in paradise

Maybe Obama’s highspeed rail can go from Canada to Mayo Clinic in Rochester,MN.

At least then somebody might ride it.

Maybe the Premier and Brock Lesnar can ride together.


47 posted on 02/02/2010 9:09:51 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: 1rudeboy

This is an indeed an apt description of the Newfoundland premier. Progressive policies for his subjects and the fruits of conservatism for himself, his family and friends.
Micheal Moore would also be considered a progressive conservative.


48 posted on 02/02/2010 9:12:12 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: fanfan

Ping.


49 posted on 02/02/2010 9:13:43 AM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Thanks for posting. Got into a rather unexpected and bitter argument last week with one of my liberal relatives about this.

He was trying to tell me that the USA doesn’t even make the top ten list of the world’s best places to get health care (unbelievable!), much less rank as the number one best, and that no one in his right mind would come here for care.

In the future, I intend to email him every article like this I can find in the hope that I can plant at least a tiny seed of doubt and help him overcome a lifetime of liberal propaganda.

(So if anyone knows of a place on the web that has a listing of all the world’s movers and shakers who have come here for their health care, please let me know. Thx.)


50 posted on 02/02/2010 9:16:59 AM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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