Skip to comments.McCain appears to shift stance on 'don't ask, don't tell' policy (McCain flip flop alert!)
Posted on 02/02/2010 2:35:51 PM PST by rabscuttle385
Three years ago, Republican Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) was pretty clear about his stand on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
A former war hero, McCain said he would support ending the ban once the military's top brass told him they were okay with it.
"The day that the leadership of the military comes to me and says, 'Senator, we ought to change the policy,' then I think we ought to consider seriously changing it because those leaders in the military are the ones we give the responsibility to," McCain told an audience of college students during the "Hardball" college tour on MSNBC.
That day arrived Tuesday, with Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Mike Mullen testifying to senators following President Obama's announcement that he would seek a congressional repeal of the controversial 15-year-old policy.
Mullen called repealing the policy, which bans openly gay men and lesbians from serving, "the right thing to do" and said he was personally troubled by effectively forcing service members to "lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."
Gates told the Armed Services Committee, "I fully support the president's decision.
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McCain running in the right direction...it must be an election year.
The JD Hayworth effect.
Is he shifting to a wide stance?
The chameleon conservative. All things to all people.
He needs to start planning his retirement.
It’s coming soon.
Lesseeee...which way is the wind blowin’?
So admiral can you do away with the UCMJ articles about rape and carnal knowledge and sodomy as well? Those are bothersome articles that people have to lie about as well.
A man who tries to be all things to all people is ultimately nothing to anyone...
Shameful. This senile old fool is determined to embarrass himself with his desperation to cling to his Senate seat
Time to run McCain out of town ! He is out of touch.
"At this moment of immense hardship for our armed services, we should not be seeking to overturn the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy," McCain said bluntly, before describing it as "imperfect but effective."
This bothers me greatly, the US Military first and foremost must have impeccable Morality, when that is cast under the bus what is left?
The Military then becomes just another .Gov agency whose mission is to kill people and break things, there is no higher calling.
He’s not flip flopping. He’s re-adjusting his opinion according to what the MSM thinks.
The McCain hatred on FR is pathological.
McCain is moving in the direction most Freepers prefer (keeping DADT) and they still bash him? McCain is not enemy #1, he’s not even enemy #100. Besides Obama, look at the Democrats in Congress.
How many people think Obama won primarily because McCain ran a poor campaign? I think it’s because people were sick of Republicans in general, starting with Bush, and for good reason (although the Democrats are still worse).
If you think McCain derangement syndrome is bad around here, it is nothing to compare with Romney derangement syndrome. Mitt is just another garden variety RINO who doesn’t p*Ss on conservatives quite as enthusiastically as does McCain.
Read it AGAIN! He IS for gays in military now that Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff says “Have at it you rump riders”!
Any new polls on how JD is doing and if he has a chance to send this RINO packing?
No...you need to read it again.
From the linked (ie “whole”) article:
“Buchanan noted that McCain had submitted for the record a list of thousands of former military officers who oppose lifting the ban on openly gay people serving in the military. She said McCain will wait until the special panel Gates and Mullen announced before considering whether to support a repeal of the ban.”
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Credit where credit is due.
For now, maybe.
But, mark my words, if he is re-elected, he will return to stabbing conservatives in the back.
And even though Juan is running away from that, I'd disagree with it, now or before. That might make sense if it were limited to the leadership below the top leadership which is so politicized and generally PC, as General Casey so ably demonstrated after Fort Hood.
I'd want to know what the officers below the top brass think, and what the senior enlisted personnel think. Forget the Joint Chiefs and other top brass. Most of those will tell a president what he wants to hear on all too many subjects.
And here’s what he said just days ago...
Its open homosexuality that the military prohibits. Ike Skelton, the leading House Democrat on military policy, opposes repealing the policy. So does John McCain, who responded to the presidents decision by defending DADT. He said, This successful policy has been in effect for over 15 years, and it is well understood and predominantly supported by our military at all levels.
So yes another flip flop, I will donate to Hayworth.
Furthermore, Mullen said ‘he was speaking for himself, and only for himself.
Not as military...
But that isn’t the headlines, eh?
every elected official should have the sense to stop this.
the radical left led by bozo the clown and his wife along with the homosexuals hate the military.
because the military stands for traditions and morals, that is everything the far left and the homosexuals hate.
Over turning this brings nothing to the military but it does bring a lot of problems
I don't get you people. Three years ago deferred to the generals' and admirals' because he figured there was no way they would ever support the gay rights culture's abuse of the military. At the moment, gays are permitted in the military, they just aren't allowed to make an issue of their sexual preferrence. Then President Obama came along and obviously vetted Mullen on this topic before he appointed him or kept him. Same thing with Gates. McCain is revising his official position because circumstances have changed.
does this not need congress to pass?
we need to put candidates in every seat, seats where we hardly stand a chance too .
This country is breaking into a tin pot country and we need to stop this ASAP
The morale, social, military health, marriage/civil union issues and costs, moral/ethical, and the walking blood supply concerns of approving of homosexuality in the military make this a far too costly decision for this nation.
Absolutely. It cannot happen.
Once again the higher ups approve of immoral behavior. For what you permit you condone. Another crack in the foundation.
The US Constitution says Congress is in charge of regulating the military and not the executive. Any changes must go thru them first.
House members in anti-gay marriage states should outnumber all others.
?? I think McCain is right this time.
Joining his wife and daughter, apparently.
The explanation is very easy to understand. He is trying to be reelected. Every RINO becomes more conservative near reelection. As soon as he is reelected, he will be buddy buddy with the social agenda of all moderates and liberals.
Sessions said exactly that. And he was very firmly against changing it. As he said, even if they did, they cannot change military codes of conduct, which are going nowhere.
I find it pretty disgusting that McCain was at one time in the pocket of homosexual activist groups. He is a RHINO to the core and this is another reason to support J.D. Hayworth.
I think the key issue with overturning DADT is if they were also overturning the ban on gays in the military.
Before DADT the services were allowed to investigate suspected sodomites and remove them if they were proven to be such.
This is the way it should be . No faggot should be serving in the military under any conditions.
If they want to repeal DADT and allow openly homosexual people to serve then it should be fought tooth and nail. If they want to repeal DADT and cleanse the military of the gay plague then it should be embraced.
The problem is that no one has said what will replace DADT (or if they did I missed it). With the gay kenyan in the whitehouse though, I’d expect he’s going to bat for his butt buddies.
Forgot to add. McCain should be dumped anyway. He is a traitor to the Constitution as amply demonstrated by McCain-Feingold.
Obviously, you did not watch the hearings or you are spending too much time in the outhouse. lol
Sorry, I meant “the REST of you people.”
Guilty of both! outhousepatrol.com
At least half of Obama’s czars, and others are homosexuals. Obama must be one too, or at the very least a pervert.