[getitright]

There are a wider variety of federal jobs than I realized. When I here the term, I think of enormous office buildings stuffed with union do-nothings raking in obscene salaries, benefits, and pensions.

There are no doubt many very sharp folks working for the government. I would expect them to be most highly represented in the military/law enforcment/intelligence fields.

The primary point I believe is this- seperating income from product yields gross inefficiencies. This is what most union situations move towards. I’m sure many of you governemnt workers earn every penny but I’ll bet that out of the millions there are most who don’t.

[TnGOP]

I can't disagree. I work in the maintenance department for the USPS. Most of the guys that work with me earn their money every day. A few don't. That few is a higher percentage than you will find elsewhere, precisely because of union rules and worthless managers that are too lazy to properly document misconduct.

We have mail handlers making (with a LOT of overtime) over 100k/year, driving a forklift. Others do unskilled (grunt) work, like hand loading packages into the sorting system. That pays over $20/hour, and could be done by college students for half that, like Fedex. I really get frustrated when I see the waste all around, and can't do a thing to stop the insanity.