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Senate to Take up Rare Bipartisan Jobs Bill
ABC News ^ | February 4, 2010 | STEPHEN OHLEMACHE ap

Posted on 02/04/2010 5:35:00 PM PST by mdittmar

Senate leaders plan to pass a jobs bill next week featuring tax breaks for employers that hire unemployed workers, a rare bipartisan effort in an election-year Congress sharply divided along political lines.

"We want to work with the Republicans and it appears to me, on the jobs program, they want to work with us," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters. "We do believe very emphatically that we will be having a bipartisan bill."

The Senate will start work on the bill Monday, Reid said. If the bill is passed by the end of next week, when the Senate takes a President's Day break, it would hand President Barack Obama a badly needed political victory.

Passage of a bipartisan bill would contrast sharply with the way Congress has done business for the past year, reflecting the Democrats' diminished power since Republican Scott Brown scored a stunning victory last month in a special Senate election in Massachusetts. With Brown seated Thursday, Senate Democrats no longer have a filibuster-proof majority in the body, meaning they need at least some Republican support to pass legislation.

Democrats believe a jobs bill that includes tax breaks Republicans support is a good way to break the ice, while also reflecting Obama's renewed emphasis on creating jobs. Also, lawmakers worried about re-election in the midst of double-digit unemployment want to be seen as helping the 7 million Americans who have lost their jobs in the recession.

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Nice try harry,you are toast.
1 posted on 02/04/2010 5:35:00 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
It is not the government's job to create jobs.
2 posted on 02/04/2010 5:36:16 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: mdittmar

CALL IT WHAT IT IS!! IT IS SIMPLY A SECOND STIMULUS PACKAGE!!


3 posted on 02/04/2010 5:39:30 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Once again these politicians are well-intended, but they don’t understand business and markets. the stupid government can’t legislate “jobs”. the government destroys and disrupts. the free market and individuals create.


4 posted on 02/04/2010 5:40:48 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: mdittmar
...tax breaks for employers that hire unemployed workers...

If I were an employer, and this thing passes, I'd lay off every employee and hire them back!

5 posted on 02/04/2010 5:43:33 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error!)
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To: mdittmar

Why would we work with them? A tax credit to hire people won’t make companies hire people, so it’s just throwing money away. Companies will hire people if they have work, and they’ll take the money.

Taking money out of the economy to put it right back in doesn’t create work. Especially not when you’ve already borrowed a trillion dollars in a year.

What business needs is to know what it is going to cost to have workers, and what the business climate will be in 6 months. They need to know there will be money available to finance short-term needs.


6 posted on 02/04/2010 5:44:03 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Bushbacker1

Actually, you’d be laying them off now, because I’m sure the bill that passes will prevent firing and re-hiring later.


7 posted on 02/04/2010 5:44:59 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mdittmar

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Less government / more jobs.


8 posted on 02/04/2010 5:45:34 PM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Here’s a report on government jobs actually created:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2444651/posts


9 posted on 02/04/2010 5:45:51 PM PST by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: mdittmar
"We want to work with the Republicans and it appears to me, on the jobs program, they want to work with us," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters. "We do believe very emphatically that we will be having a bipartisan bill."

Now that Mr Reid's carcass is up against a wall, he suddenly wants to be bipartisan? I hope that the voters in his district see what an opportunist this clown really is!!!!

10 posted on 02/04/2010 5:46:31 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: mdittmar

THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO US.


11 posted on 02/04/2010 5:46:57 PM PST by TADSLOS (Presidential charisma without repect for liberty is a dangerous trait.)
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To: originalbuckeye

If a Republican votes for it they are toast!


12 posted on 02/04/2010 5:47:10 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free (http://teapartypatriots.org)
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To: mdittmar

Exactly.
Make list of any RINOs who reach across the aisle.
smack them upside their RINO heads


13 posted on 02/04/2010 5:49:49 PM PST by wheninthecourse
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s enough to drive anyone insane.


14 posted on 02/04/2010 5:52:43 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: TADSLOS

Harry ain’t too smart, he can, however, count to “41”.


15 posted on 02/04/2010 5:54:22 PM PST by outhousepatrol
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To: wheninthecourse

Slow down. We need to give the appearance that we want to work across the aisle. And offer true suggestions on what we think should be done. Like cut spending and give tax breaks to people and businesses.

Then when the rats only put the smallest of tax breaks in the bill and increase spending we walk away from it claiming they weren’t willing to work with us. Just like the rats did when repbulicans ran congress. But to work we need all the repbulicans to stick together or it will fail.


16 posted on 02/04/2010 5:55:21 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: originalbuckeye
IT IS SIMPLY A SECOND STIMULUS PACKAGE!!

Bingo.

17 posted on 02/04/2010 5:55:57 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Bushbacker1

They just don’t understand. Businesses don’t hire employees based on tax breaks. Businesses hire people based on their work load.


18 posted on 02/04/2010 6:00:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: for-q-clinton
But to work we need all the repbulicans to stick together or it will fail.

and therein lies the problem. You're expecting the lame GOP to do synchronized, high energy ninja moves. Ain't gonna happen.

19 posted on 02/04/2010 6:01:14 PM PST by TADSLOS (Presidential charisma without repect for liberty is a dangerous trait.)
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To: mdittmar

I’m sorry but taking more of our money and freedom is NOT a “jobs” bill.....


20 posted on 02/04/2010 6:01:20 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: outhousepatrol

The republicans now have some power to make up a good bill with massive tax cuts for small businesses. If they play their cards right, this might fly!


21 posted on 02/04/2010 6:01:46 PM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: mdittmar

Yep, Republicans are being played for suckers, and they’ll get blamed as more liberal ideas are ‘snuck’ in by Democrats and it fails to create jobs


22 posted on 02/04/2010 6:05:18 PM PST by Son House (The Learning Curve for Democrats on Macroeconomics is getting Exponential)
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To: mdittmar
7 million out of 300 million is not 10-17% unemployment

If the GOP had a clue they would set up their own network and lambaste the shitty propagandists at the "networks" on a regular basis.

23 posted on 02/04/2010 6:05:57 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Loud Mime
a good bill with massive tax cuts for small businesses.(fixed)
24 posted on 02/04/2010 6:07:22 PM PST by Son House (The Learning Curve for Democrats on Macroeconomics is getting Exponential)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They just don’t understand. Businesses don’t hire employees based on tax breaks. Businesses hire people based on their work load

Great point & you are absolutely correct. And Yes, it goes without saying that demoRATs (and most Repub politicians unfortunately) are too stupid and they simply can't, won't, and will never be able to understand this. They are steeped in socialist-marxism, which means that they think "gubmint" creates jobs & wealth.

I am going to call up my liberal turd Tim Walz MN-D1 tomorrow and scream & holler at whoever takes the phone. And I am going to slam this statement right in their socialist commie pig faces... Ohhh I hate these socialist demoRAT bastards!!!

25 posted on 02/04/2010 6:07:52 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: mdittmar

Did you hear Dingy today? There is no bill. They allegedly talked among themselves and came up with “great” ideas which were apparently not evident the first time around. My prediction is that this will consist of extending unemployment and keeping state and union employees on the payroll plus the totally ineffective idea of a 5,000 tax credit for hiring someone when there is no work to do.

They want a vote on a non-existent bil.


26 posted on 02/04/2010 6:15:02 PM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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Hold on to your wallets. This bill is bound to have pork in it.


27 posted on 02/04/2010 6:23:13 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: mdittmar
It's not the cost of hiring employers are worried about. It's the cost of firing them. The O-ministration is hell bent on making employees financial dependents of their employers.
28 posted on 02/04/2010 6:25:40 PM PST by Niteranger68 ("Obama voters will pay dearly!")
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To: mdittmar

Scott Brown was asked about this during his presser. And he stated that “since the first one created NOT ONE JOB,” he had no interest in another.


29 posted on 02/04/2010 6:36:02 PM PST by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: mdittmar

41 Bushes to blame.


30 posted on 02/04/2010 6:37:25 PM PST by depressed in 06 (Tea parties today, Lexington tomorrow.)
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"We want to work with the Republicans"

Well I don't believe it. Everyone of these clowns need to be purged.

31 posted on 02/04/2010 6:41:31 PM PST by WHBates
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To: for-q-clinton

The GOP should include the Pres Bush tax cuts in any jobs bill


32 posted on 02/04/2010 6:44:55 PM PST by italianquaker (My bartender knew about the attempted Christmas attack before odumbo)
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To: mdittmar

And if they hire an employed worker who is a better fit for the job, doesn’t that create an opening from that worker’s old position?

Ugh, I hate such government meddling in the market just so a bunch of incumbent pols can create a count of jobs they supposedly created.


33 posted on 02/04/2010 6:46:19 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: nhwingut

Good for Brown!


34 posted on 02/04/2010 6:46:57 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: mdittmar

I’m sorry, but WTF is a “jobs” bill? Do these people think they just need to pass a “jobs bill” and the jobs will appear like magic? Hell, too bad they didn’t invent the concept of a “jobs bill” during the Great Depression.

Politicians and bureaucrats don’t create jobs. They need to cut taxes and regulations to create jobs....and then get the f out of the way.


35 posted on 02/04/2010 6:50:28 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: mdittmar

2/3 of the original stimulus bill is being saved to stimulate the economy right before election time and the GOP wants to help them get more now ? Please tell me this is a joke.


36 posted on 02/04/2010 7:04:59 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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To: mdittmar

Jobs Bill = print more money and give it to the unemployed so they don’t march on DC with tar, feathers, and nooses.


37 posted on 02/04/2010 7:13:36 PM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It is not the government's job to create jobs.

Amen. Just get your damn ape hands off the economy you damn, dirty apes.

38 posted on 02/04/2010 7:17:00 PM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: mdittmar

Uh..I’m not an economist but I’m not sure why it’s such a horrible thing to pass tax cuts? The effect may be minimal but unless can point to how this is hurtful I’m for it.

Now do I believe it’s as simple as decribed? Of course not. If they start loading it with pork, legislation unrelated to a simple tax cut or even move to sneak in more “stimulas” Obama’s administration will pass off to their allies then I reject it.

But I don’t care about political optics only good policy. A simple tax cut won’t have me demanding they filibuster.


39 posted on 02/04/2010 7:50:13 PM PST by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: mdittmar

Here’s the best agenda.

Less taxes, less spending, less government...

... repeat.


40 posted on 02/04/2010 8:01:00 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: mdittmar
"The other thing I'll point out is we now have...we are working on a...we're told not to call it another stimulus bill. We're calling it a jobs bill."....

Congressman Brad Sherman (D - CA)
41 posted on 02/04/2010 8:04:03 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Join Me In BOYCOTTING all ObamaTV!! (Change the channel or do so and then turn tv off!!))
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To: mdittmar
FLOOD THE PHONES IN DC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do not allow the republicons to vote for this crap. Then again, this may be the actual birth of Tea Party Rule!
42 posted on 02/04/2010 8:06:50 PM PST by carolinacrazy (Bow to your sensei.... BOW TO YOUR SENSEI...... www.jackassdemocrats.com)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Unemployment should be addressed by 1) construction of the border fence, with a completion date no later than May 1 (that’ll have the bonus of pissing off the idiot commies); 2) rounding up all illegals and deporting them (after processing them as criminals, and locking them up while checking for forensic matches with evidence from unsolved crimes); 3) eliminating the so-called stimulus, TARP, and government (taxpayer) support for ACORN, PBS, NPR, and all the so-called community organizations and so-called art associations; 4) dropping all retail excise on gasoline and diesel, replacing it with taxes on all hydrocarbon imports and exports; 5) opening up coastal regions and the ANWR to drilling; 6) flattening the income tax while dropping it to a low level, while adding a small federal sales tax (we spend more than we make, due to criminal activities, people like Raum who avoid taxes, and chargin’ it) and eliminating most deductions; 7) restoring incentives to productive lives by eliminating all racist and sexist preferences in hiring (so-called affirmative action, known to intelligent people for what they are, quotas), race-norming, and the stupid federal requirements for preferential treatment to so-called minority-owned businesses and union shops.


43 posted on 02/04/2010 8:07:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: mdittmar

The problem with Scott Brown’s victory is that it is allowing the Dems to pivot to the center well before the midterm election, and pass “Centrist” bills.


44 posted on 02/04/2010 8:25:06 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Kimberly GG; originalbuckeye
Thanks for the quote K GG. I was looking for that one.
Your two posts sum it all up perfectly!

CALL IT WHAT IT IS!! IT IS SIMPLY A SECOND STIMULUS PACKAGE!!
3 posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:39:30 PM by originalbuckeye

"The other thing I'll point out is we now have...we are working on a...we're told not to call it another stimulus bill. We're calling it a jobs bill."....
Congressman Brad Sherman (D - CA)

45 posted on 02/04/2010 8:52:51 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Soul Seeker

OK. Thing is. Giving tax breaks to employers so they hire people is well....STUPID! I am an employer and I need sales so I need more people to do jobs. I am not going to hire someone at $10 and hour and find them something to do until sales pick up so I can get my tax break next year. It is just insane! Find a way to give the American people confidence that things are going to get better and let the economy grow by getting out of the way!


46 posted on 02/04/2010 8:56:03 PM PST by olesrus
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To: mdittmar

No pork, please.


47 posted on 02/04/2010 9:17:04 PM PST by BAW (I'm right.)
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To: mdittmar
All of the sudden the DemocRATS want to get (gasp) "Bipartisan". I guess they finally realized their ass is grass and the voters are the lawnmower.
48 posted on 02/04/2010 9:44:45 PM PST by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: olesrus

I see it more in the vein of write offs given for charitable contributions. So what if the effect is minimal. I’m looking for one good reason why I should object to this. You haven’t provided it. And screaming “get out of the way”? Please. One of the few things conservatives DO approve of the government doing is providing tax relief. That is something I’m perfectly fine with them passing.

I recognize this will not suddenly send unemployment even down 1% but anytime a Democratic Congress takes it into their head to pass ANY tax cut I don’t see why I should object. Unless of course they tag something else to it which they probably will. As far as I can tell though people are just reflexively opposing this for political reasons or because it’s not good enough. Well I oppose political considerations as a factor and as for the “not good enough” who says we stop pushing? Accept this and then push for more.


49 posted on 02/04/2010 9:54:06 PM PST by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: Soul Seeker

Now here is an article that elaborates on the package and of course suggests it is more then a proposal to offer new tax breaks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/us/politics/05dems.html

Suggested attachments include health care coverge for unemployed workers and highway repairs. THESE are good reasons to oppose the bill.


50 posted on 02/04/2010 10:11:58 PM PST by Soul Seeker (?)
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