Skip to comments.Senate to Take up Rare Bipartisan Jobs Bill
Posted on 02/04/2010 5:35:00 PM PST by mdittmar
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CALL IT WHAT IT IS!! IT IS SIMPLY A SECOND STIMULUS PACKAGE!!
Once again these politicians are well-intended, but they don’t understand business and markets. the stupid government can’t legislate “jobs”. the government destroys and disrupts. the free market and individuals create.
If I were an employer, and this thing passes, I'd lay off every employee and hire them back!
Why would we work with them? A tax credit to hire people won’t make companies hire people, so it’s just throwing money away. Companies will hire people if they have work, and they’ll take the money.
Taking money out of the economy to put it right back in doesn’t create work. Especially not when you’ve already borrowed a trillion dollars in a year.
What business needs is to know what it is going to cost to have workers, and what the business climate will be in 6 months. They need to know there will be money available to finance short-term needs.
Actually, you’d be laying them off now, because I’m sure the bill that passes will prevent firing and re-hiring later.
Less government / more jobs.
Here’s a report on government jobs actually created:
Now that Mr Reid's carcass is up against a wall, he suddenly wants to be bipartisan? I hope that the voters in his district see what an opportunist this clown really is!!!!
THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO US.
If a Republican votes for it they are toast!
Make list of any RINOs who reach across the aisle.
smack them upside their RINO heads
It’s enough to drive anyone insane.
Harry ain’t too smart, he can, however, count to “41”.
Slow down. We need to give the appearance that we want to work across the aisle. And offer true suggestions on what we think should be done. Like cut spending and give tax breaks to people and businesses.
Then when the rats only put the smallest of tax breaks in the bill and increase spending we walk away from it claiming they weren’t willing to work with us. Just like the rats did when repbulicans ran congress. But to work we need all the repbulicans to stick together or it will fail.
They just don’t understand. Businesses don’t hire employees based on tax breaks. Businesses hire people based on their work load.
and therein lies the problem. You're expecting the lame GOP to do synchronized, high energy ninja moves. Ain't gonna happen.
I’m sorry but taking more of our money and freedom is NOT a “jobs” bill.....
The republicans now have some power to make up a good bill with massive tax cuts for small businesses. If they play their cards right, this might fly!
Yep, Republicans are being played for suckers, and they’ll get blamed as more liberal ideas are ‘snuck’ in by Democrats and it fails to create jobs
If the GOP had a clue they would set up their own network and lambaste the shitty propagandists at the "networks" on a regular basis.
Great point & you are absolutely correct. And Yes, it goes without saying that demoRATs (and most Repub politicians unfortunately) are too stupid and they simply can't, won't, and will never be able to understand this. They are steeped in socialist-marxism, which means that they think "gubmint" creates jobs & wealth.
I am going to call up my liberal turd Tim Walz MN-D1 tomorrow and scream & holler at whoever takes the phone. And I am going to slam this statement right in their socialist commie pig faces... Ohhh I hate these socialist demoRAT bastards!!!
Did you hear Dingy today? There is no bill. They allegedly talked among themselves and came up with “great” ideas which were apparently not evident the first time around. My prediction is that this will consist of extending unemployment and keeping state and union employees on the payroll plus the totally ineffective idea of a 5,000 tax credit for hiring someone when there is no work to do.
They want a vote on a non-existent bil.
Hold on to your wallets. This bill is bound to have pork in it.
Scott Brown was asked about this during his presser. And he stated that “since the first one created NOT ONE JOB,” he had no interest in another.
41 Bushes to blame.
Well I don't believe it. Everyone of these clowns need to be purged.
The GOP should include the Pres Bush tax cuts in any jobs bill
And if they hire an employed worker who is a better fit for the job, doesn’t that create an opening from that worker’s old position?
Ugh, I hate such government meddling in the market just so a bunch of incumbent pols can create a count of jobs they supposedly created.
Good for Brown!
I’m sorry, but WTF is a “jobs” bill? Do these people think they just need to pass a “jobs bill” and the jobs will appear like magic? Hell, too bad they didn’t invent the concept of a “jobs bill” during the Great Depression.
Politicians and bureaucrats don’t create jobs. They need to cut taxes and regulations to create jobs....and then get the f out of the way.
2/3 of the original stimulus bill is being saved to stimulate the economy right before election time and the GOP wants to help them get more now ? Please tell me this is a joke.
Jobs Bill = print more money and give it to the unemployed so they don’t march on DC with tar, feathers, and nooses.
Amen. Just get your damn ape hands off the economy you damn, dirty apes.
Uh..I’m not an economist but I’m not sure why it’s such a horrible thing to pass tax cuts? The effect may be minimal but unless can point to how this is hurtful I’m for it.
Now do I believe it’s as simple as decribed? Of course not. If they start loading it with pork, legislation unrelated to a simple tax cut or even move to sneak in more “stimulas” Obama’s administration will pass off to their allies then I reject it.
But I don’t care about political optics only good policy. A simple tax cut won’t have me demanding they filibuster.
Here’s the best agenda.
Less taxes, less spending, less government...
Unemployment should be addressed by 1) construction of the border fence, with a completion date no later than May 1 (that’ll have the bonus of pissing off the idiot commies); 2) rounding up all illegals and deporting them (after processing them as criminals, and locking them up while checking for forensic matches with evidence from unsolved crimes); 3) eliminating the so-called stimulus, TARP, and government (taxpayer) support for ACORN, PBS, NPR, and all the so-called community organizations and so-called art associations; 4) dropping all retail excise on gasoline and diesel, replacing it with taxes on all hydrocarbon imports and exports; 5) opening up coastal regions and the ANWR to drilling; 6) flattening the income tax while dropping it to a low level, while adding a small federal sales tax (we spend more than we make, due to criminal activities, people like Raum who avoid taxes, and chargin’ it) and eliminating most deductions; 7) restoring incentives to productive lives by eliminating all racist and sexist preferences in hiring (so-called affirmative action, known to intelligent people for what they are, quotas), race-norming, and the stupid federal requirements for preferential treatment to so-called minority-owned businesses and union shops.
The problem with Scott Brown’s victory is that it is allowing the Dems to pivot to the center well before the midterm election, and pass “Centrist” bills.
CALL IT WHAT IT IS!! IT IS SIMPLY A SECOND STIMULUS PACKAGE!!
3 posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:39:30 PM by originalbuckeye
"The other thing I'll point out is we now have...we are working on a...we're told not to call it another stimulus bill. We're calling it a jobs bill."....
Congressman Brad Sherman (D - CA)
OK. Thing is. Giving tax breaks to employers so they hire people is well....STUPID! I am an employer and I need sales so I need more people to do jobs. I am not going to hire someone at $10 and hour and find them something to do until sales pick up so I can get my tax break next year. It is just insane! Find a way to give the American people confidence that things are going to get better and let the economy grow by getting out of the way!
No pork, please.
I see it more in the vein of write offs given for charitable contributions. So what if the effect is minimal. I’m looking for one good reason why I should object to this. You haven’t provided it. And screaming “get out of the way”? Please. One of the few things conservatives DO approve of the government doing is providing tax relief. That is something I’m perfectly fine with them passing.
I recognize this will not suddenly send unemployment even down 1% but anytime a Democratic Congress takes it into their head to pass ANY tax cut I don’t see why I should object. Unless of course they tag something else to it which they probably will. As far as I can tell though people are just reflexively opposing this for political reasons or because it’s not good enough. Well I oppose political considerations as a factor and as for the “not good enough” who says we stop pushing? Accept this and then push for more.
Now here is an article that elaborates on the package and of course suggests it is more then a proposal to offer new tax breaks.
Suggested attachments include health care coverge for unemployed workers and highway repairs. THESE are good reasons to oppose the bill.
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