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Victor Davis Hanson: Partisanship, Then and Now
National Review Online ^ | February 08, 2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/08/2010 7:29:10 PM PST by neverdem

One of the stranger behaviors of the ever-stranger Obama administration is its sudden adoption of the "wounded fawn" posture.

No opposition was more stridently critical of a sitting president than was the anti-Bush Left. Barack Obama, as candidate and president, could not start a speech without saying "Bush did it." And have we forgotten the 2006–08 canonization of Michael Moore, the silence about the Nazi slurs, the award-winning assassination docudramas, the Knopf novel about killing George Bush, the "General Betray Us" ad, Al Gore's vein-bulging "brownshirts"outburst, and on and on?

But suddenly, pundits and politicians have embraced a new gospel about conciliation and the need to restrain harsh discourse — which is fine, but many of these advocates for a gentler, kinder dialogue were bomb-throwers just a few years ago.

And now we hear from none other than John Brennan, the Obama-administration counterterrorism expert, who soberly sermonizes on the lamentable politicization of the war on terror, and particularly the popular derision of the decision to treat the Christmas-day airliner plot as a normal criminal-justice matter.

But isn't Brennan the same official who used to give loud political speeches, heralding not only the superior new Obama anti-terrorism methodology but also the failings of the Bush approach (which kept us safe for seven consecutive years)?

I seem to recall that Brennan recently characterized the former vice president as "ignorant." And in August 2009, Brennan's first official speech lambasted the Bush administation ad nauseam (e.g., "The fight against terrorists and violent extremists has been returned to its right and proper place: no longer defining — indeed, distorting — our entire national security and foreign policy"; "President Obama has made it clear that the United States will not be defined simply by what we are against, but by what we are for — the opportunity, liberties, prosperity, and common aspirations we share with the world"; "Rather than looking at allies and other nations through the narrow prism of terrorism — whether they are with us or against us — the administration is now engaging other countries and peoples across a broader range of areas. Rather than treating so many of our foreign affairs programs — foreign assistance, development, democracy promotion — as simply extensions of the fight against terrorists"; "We see this new approach most vividly in the president's personal engagement with the world — his trips, his speeches, his town halls with foreign audiences"; "As many have noted, the president does not describe this as a 'war on terrorism'"; "Likewise, the president does not describe this as a 'global war'"; "Nor does President Obama see this challenge as a fight against 'jihadists.' Describing terrorists in this way — using a legitimate term, 'jihad,' meaning to purify oneself or to wage a holy struggle for a moral goal — risks giving these murderers the religious legitimacy they desperately seek but in no way deserve"; and so on).

In other words, Brennan himself was not content simply to continue America's anti-terrorism protocols, or to modify them in relative silence; instead, he chose to grandstand, often in obsequious fashion, about the superiority of Obama's revisionist approach. And when Obama's approach proved "problematic" — with the KSM trial, the Abdulmutallab mess, the Fort Hood massacre, the continuation of tribunals and renditions, and failed promises on Guantanamo — Brennan suddenly went from hyper-partisan to nonpartisan.

Then there is the strange case of Richard Clarke. He too has deplored "the partisan rhetoric" about the Obama administration's anti-terrorism policies: "Recent months have seen the party out of power picking fights over the conduct of our efforts against al-Qaeda, often with total disregard to the facts and frequently blowing issues totally out of proportion, while ignoring the more important challenges we face in defeating terrorists." This surely cannot be the same Richard Clarke who in the election year 2004 came out with his partisan exposé Against All Odds, which damned the Bush administration, after earlier delighting the D.C. press corps with wild charges that George Bush had "undermined the war on terrorism."

(Brennan and Clarke should read the third book of Thucydides on the folly of arrogantly destroying protocol and tradition, and then in dire straits seeking refuge in both.)

There is a rule of thumb with the Obama administration and its most vocal supporters: Those who loudly deplore the new partisanship and acrimony are typically those who in the past were the most partisan and acrimonious.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: obama; partisanship; vdh; victordavishanson

1 posted on 02/08/2010 7:29:11 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Tolik

merciless, as usual


2 posted on 02/08/2010 7:31:43 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
It's hard to see a good solution to this. I don't think the Democrats should get a pass -- that, in my opinion, was George W. Bush's primary mistake: he entered Washington in 2000 seeking "a new tone" and he spent 8 years basically not fighting back against Democrat slurs.

The Democrats from 2000 to 2008 bordered on treasonous as far as I'm concerned. Now we've got a radical usurper in the White House who is intentionally destroying the country. The Democrats need to be slammed for this, and slammed hard.

But at some point I would like to see a return to some sort of civility. I just can't imagine which party will go first -- it would seem to go against the very nature of the modern Democrat party, and the Republicans have already been burned once by trying to be civil. How do we get out of this?

3 posted on 02/08/2010 7:36:47 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: neverdem

VDH bump.

Those who loudly deplore the new partisanship and acrimony are typically those who in the past were the most partisan and acrimonious.

That covers it.


4 posted on 02/08/2010 7:36:51 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem

Excellent. Screw the wounded fawn, and screw the hypocritical bastards who are calling for kinder, gentler dialogue. This makes me want to go after them even harder for their incompetence and for their failures.


5 posted on 02/08/2010 7:37:38 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: neverdem

VDH bump


6 posted on 02/08/2010 7:38:16 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Mike/Chris Wallace: Did you give in? Palin: "HELL NO!" 269 days til Phase 2. Phase 3 - 2012.)
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To: neverdem
"Brennan and Clarke should read the third book of Thucydides on the folly of arrogantly destroying protocol and tradition, and then in dire straits seeking refuge in both."

Yikes!

7 posted on 02/08/2010 7:39:16 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: neverdem

Mr. Hanson may write well, I don’t know. I can’t ever read him because I can’t get past the 3 names.

Are there too many Victor Hanson’s in the world, such that Victor Davis Hanson become necessary? 3 names like that make me shudder. It just feels like he is full of himself, before I get past the byline.

Donning flame-suit now, lol.


8 posted on 02/08/2010 7:40:06 PM PST by bluefish (NoBama! Because Commies Suck)
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To: neverdem
"But suddenly, pundits and politicians have embraced a new gospel about conciliation and the need to restrain harsh discourse — which is fine, but many of these advocates for a gentler, kinder dialogue were bomb-throwers just a few years ago."

And some, like Obama, were bomb-throwers just a few days ago.

9 posted on 02/08/2010 7:41:55 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: ClearCase_guy

A return to civility? As you pointed out, civility requires the participation of both sides. When were the Democrats and their nutcase parasite allies in the media and Hollywood and the anti-whatever movements EVER civil to or about Bush? When did they let a minute go by without demonizing Cheney? Bush never struck back and the country is now suffering for it. At this point I expect every Republican with vocal chords to be remorseless — both with criticism and ridicule. No administration has ever so richly deserved it as the smugly incompetent current one. Civility will only return after they have cried uncle.


10 posted on 02/08/2010 7:46:06 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: bluefish

you might want to try getting past the 3 names, he writes good stuff.


11 posted on 02/08/2010 7:46:37 PM PST by henry_reardon
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To: neverdem
(Brennan and Clarke should read the third book of Thucydides on the folly of arrogantly destroying protocol and tradition, and then in dire straits seeking refuge in both.)

I would like to see Ozero have a debate with this man on C-Span. His telepromter might explose.

12 posted on 02/08/2010 7:47:57 PM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: neverdem
"But suddenly, pundits and politicians have embraced a new gospel about conciliation and the need to restrain harsh discourse — which is fine, but many of these advocates for a gentler, kinder dialogue were bomb-throwers just a few years ago."

In other words, "Oh s**t! We've pissed off the peasants! They apparently have been paying attention to our contemptuous and disparaging remarks. Why just yesterday, my tailor was measuring my neck using a hemp rope."

13 posted on 02/08/2010 7:55:02 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: neverdem

The fallacy here is in trying to fight maliciousness with logic...


14 posted on 02/08/2010 7:57:36 PM PST by Redbob (Pray for Pres.Osamabama: Psalm 109;v.7)
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To: neverdem

They do this every time. Clinton was as hardball as any administration ever has been, but once he caught his tail in the crack it was “Woe me, politics of personal distruction”; Move on; Vast right wing conspiricy, etc. etc.


15 posted on 02/08/2010 7:57:45 PM PST by circlecity
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To: ClearCase_guy
"How do we get out of this?"

You would like... I would like... Everybody would like... But unless there is something new under the sun we will get out of this in a very human fashion.

Good post. CC_g, great points all.


16 posted on 02/08/2010 8:04:38 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: bluefish
do you have a problem with the name John Paul Jones?
17 posted on 02/08/2010 8:05:46 PM PST by Reily
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To: bluefish

Don’t judge a book by its cover.


18 posted on 02/08/2010 8:08:10 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
BINGO!

Great article. If we had an honest MSM, they would smash these people with their past comments and drive them out of Washington.

I am sick of the entire DC establishment and their media hand maidens.

I all for another big time Tea Party. Clean House!

19 posted on 02/08/2010 8:11:07 PM PST by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The Democrats from 2000 to 2008 bordered on treasonous as far as I'm concerned.

People like McDermitt crossed the line by a wide margin.

20 posted on 02/08/2010 8:12:35 PM PST by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
How do we get out of this?

Help them join the Whigs. We need a new, loyal opposition.

21 posted on 02/08/2010 8:17:27 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: bluefish
It just feels like he is full of himself, before I get past the byline.

Your loss. Bad for you.

22 posted on 02/08/2010 8:25:17 PM PST by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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To: La Lydia
Civility will only return after they have cried uncle.

I'm repeatedly astonished that many posters here don't have a clue about the nature of the Opposition. Civility isn't in the Left's vocabulary as you point out! Its motto is "By any means necessary."

I'm re-reading Horowitz's "Radical Son" and came across a relevant quote from "New Left Notes" published by the Students for a Democratic Society (a title that vies with People for the American Way for a Nobel in cynicism).

"You have to realize that the issue didn't matter. The issues were never the issues. You could have been involved with the Panthers, the Weatherpeople, SLATE, SNCC, SDS. It really didn't matter what. It was the revolution that was everything...That's why dope was good. Anything that undermined the system contributed to the revolution and was therefore good."

Today's Democrat Party is just a continuation of the Marxist revolution that began in the 60s. Its goal -- as embodied by Obama and his co-conspirators in Congress -- is to undermine and destroy the American system.

23 posted on 02/08/2010 9:01:29 PM PST by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: bluefish
Mr. Hanson may write well, I don’t know. I can’t ever read him because I can’t get past the 3 names.

Read articles by Thomas Sowell instead. Sowell will say the same thing in half the words that anyone can understand.

I understand the written word of Victor Hansen but much prefer the words written by Mr. Thomas Sowell.

24 posted on 02/08/2010 9:03:31 PM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: bluefish
Mr. Hanson may write well, I don’t know. I can’t ever read him because I can’t get past the 3 names...

Yes, there's much to be admired in your sense of perspective and priority.

Perhaps Nickelodeon.com would be better suited for you, from an intellectual and maturity point of view.

25 posted on 02/08/2010 9:41:57 PM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I have no desire for civility toward those in power who hate America and want to see her traditions, values and institutions destroyed and remade along socialist lines.


26 posted on 02/08/2010 10:50:56 PM PST by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: bluefish

Francis Ford Coppola used to say: “Never trust a man with three names!”


27 posted on 02/08/2010 10:51:51 PM PST by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: All
Victor Davis Hanson:

Just a partial list: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index:

Civilization’s Lies [Victor Davis Hanson on the West embracing noble lies not squaring with reality]
America Rides Off into the Sunset. The only people excited about the “change” in America's foreign policy are the world’s bad actors
Mr. President, Words Matter. Obama, the rhetorician, forgot that people might actually take seriously what he said
Our Obama Saga [Victor Davis Hanson dissects Obama, painfully, again]
The Obamarang. [Victor Davis Hanson dissects, deconstructs, ridicules and demolishes Zero’s lies]
Trashing the Job Makers. The Obama administration’s tax-talking frenzy has left business owners feeling uncertain
The Usual Straw Men. Obama’s half-hearted pivoting was quite transparent
As Predictable as Clockwork — the Obama three-step [Victor Davis Hanson continues to ridicule Zero]
Obama versus Obama (More classic VDH slapdown of the ONE)
Obama in Free Fall
Obama And Campaign Financing (Victor Davis Hanson On Obama's Hypocrisy Alert)
Post-election Thoughts (Liberals do not understand populist outrage. Bloodletting will Continue)
Our Philosopher-King Obama. He doesn’t mind pushing noble legislation that most people oppose
Why The Great And Growing Backlash? What Scott Brown’s election portends for the Obama agenda
"Let me be perfectly NOT clear" & "Make lots of MISTAKES about it" [Victor Davis Hanson on Obama's lies]
Our Sorta, Kinda War on Terror - President Obama has not signed up for a serious effort against radical Islam
Truths We Dare Not Speak. Five propositions that simply have become taboo
When Conservative Felonies Become Liberal Misdemeanors
2010: Our Year of Decision
Beating the Dead Terrorist Horse. September 11 taught us many lessons. To our peril, we have forgotten them
Bush Did It! And, Really, Bush Did It! And Bush Really Did It!
A Humpty-Dumpty View of the World
2009 Chickens and Their 2010 Roost
Where Did These Guys Come From? The Origins of Obamism
The War Against the Wannabe Rich. Why attack the productive classes who want to be rich?
The Long March From California to Copenhagen [Hanson on debate between capitalism and socialism]
The Palin Wonder
Why Are We Tiring of Obama?
Change, Weakness, Disaster, Obama: Answers from Victor Davis Hanson
If Iran Refuses To Cooperate, Block Its Ports
Resetting the Reset Button [Victor Davis Hanson dissects 0's pathetic diplomacy]
Riding the Back of the Tiger [Victor Davis Hanson on Obama not understanding What Causes Wars...]
What Bush Inherited, and What He Left Left Behind
Who Are ‘They’? To Obama, “they” are responsible for all our troubles. Problem is, “they” are most of us
Afghan Mythologies. We have everything we need to defeat the Taliban.
The Discreet Charm of the Left-wing Plutocracy
Truman and the Principles of U.S. Foreign Policy. Jimmy Carter rejected the postwar consensus. President Obama appears to be following a similar path
Dr. Barack and Mr. Obama - The backlash is sharp as voters learn that Obama is not the man they thought he was
Obama and "Redistributive Change". His real agenda
The War Against the Producers
President Palin’s First 100 Days. Imagine if Sarah Palin had Obama’s record
Thoughts About Depressed Americans
Our Battered American [gets angrier - Must Read Rant]
Just a partial list. Much more at the link:  http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index
28 posted on 02/09/2010 5:01:39 AM PST by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; SJackson; dennisw; kellynla; monkeyshine; Alouette; nopardons; ...

 

  Ping !

Let me know if you want in or out.

Links:   

FR Index of his articles:  http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index
NRO archive: http://author.nationalreview.com/?q=MjI1MQ==
Pajamasmedia:  http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/
His website: http://victorhanson.com/

29 posted on 02/09/2010 5:02:57 AM PST by Tolik
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To: bluefish

When he chose his own website name, he limited it to just 2 words http://victorhanson.com/ You can read all his articles there, LOL. Or maybe not, because his helpers are using 3 words now there too...

I see the use of complete name as a sign of respect from others. And VDH deserves this respect. But you’d never know...


30 posted on 02/09/2010 5:18:06 AM PST by Tolik
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To: neverdem

VDH gets a tad esoteric here ... anyone know which of Thucydides books is the “third”?


31 posted on 02/09/2010 5:33:39 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bluefish

>>Donning flame-suit now, lol.

You should. To not read one of the top five commentators writing today because of that reason is extraordinarily weak.

VDH, Krauthammer, Steyn, Sowell, and Goldberg.


32 posted on 02/09/2010 5:37:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: bluefish; Tolik
It appears that he was named after a beloved cousin, Victor Hanson, who was killed at the age of 23 in WWII. Davis is his maternal grandfather's (or great-grandfather's) name.

It seems to me more an act of respecting the memory of ancestors than pretension.

Victor Davis Hanson

33 posted on 02/09/2010 5:42:16 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Tolik

Thinking about it, I believe VDH was named after an uncle who died as a Marine in the Pacific in WWII. Perhaps his family called him by three names some as a child to distinguish him from his uncle? Just speculation, but I’ve certainly seen that sort of thing.


34 posted on 02/09/2010 5:43:00 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Thanks, that’s the sort of thing I was looking for when I made my previous post. And that was an uncle, not a cousin.


35 posted on 02/09/2010 5:44:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Oh, and I think I’ve told you this before, but I love your usernames. We should all be knitting.


36 posted on 02/09/2010 5:45:07 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: FreedomPoster
It was actually his father's first cousin, but a minor point I guess....:-)

My father was his first cousin, but the two were more like brothers, given their near-identical ages and lifelong companionship

37 posted on 02/09/2010 5:51:04 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks, and yes - we should be.


38 posted on 02/09/2010 5:52:40 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: bluefish

Simply follow politics closely enough for 5 to 10 years and you will be able to understand precisely what he is saying about whom. And understand his tremendous insights and ability to clearly explain them.


39 posted on 02/09/2010 5:52:54 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: neverdem

Good one from VDH.


40 posted on 02/09/2010 6:50:41 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Ah, OK. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen VDH describe him as “my uncle”, so perhaps we’re both correct.


41 posted on 02/09/2010 6:52:55 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: FreedomPoster

Good lineup. I am happy to see that Jonah is not just my favorite. He vastly improved over the last 10(?)+ years.


42 posted on 02/09/2010 6:56:04 AM PST by Tolik
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To: neverdem
I haven't forgotten...especially as “i is a ignorant redneck clinking to my guns an religion”...

Oh no...I will never forgive nor forget the hate to me by the communists ‘progressives’...ever

43 posted on 02/09/2010 7:21:15 AM PST by Blackwatch2
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To: DuncanWaring
Check this out THE THIRD BOOK of the HISTORY OF THUCYDIDES. - Thucydides, The English Works, vol. VIII (The Peloponnesian War Part I), or do a search on 'third book of Thucydides'.
44 posted on 02/09/2010 9:13:23 AM PST by bcsco (Obama is the navel of his own universe.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

You will be happy to know that I have been doing just that for over 50 years now.


45 posted on 02/09/2010 9:25:39 AM PST by jacquej
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To: jacquej

Well, good on ya’.....;-)


46 posted on 02/09/2010 9:40:26 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: bluefish
"Are there too many Victor Hanson’s in the world, such that Victor Davis Hanson become necessary?"

A quick google search turns up quite a few Victor Hanson's, not all of them, no doubt, with the most savory of reputations. Why run a risk of confusion?

47 posted on 02/10/2010 11:01:45 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: gogeo

LOL, I knew my comment would ruffle feathers.

Lighten up. Your reply sounds like something a guy who would call himself “Victor Davis Hanson” would right.

A little Nickelodean might do you some good. :-)


48 posted on 02/16/2010 10:17:57 PM PST by bluefish (NoBama! Because Commies Suck)
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