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Conservative manifesto coming soon
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Posted on 02/12/2010 10:47:56 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Conservative manifesto coming soon By: Kenneth P. Vogel February 12, 2010 12:54 PM EST

With conservatives grappling among themselves for control of their movement — and the Republican Party — a group of more than 80 prominent conservative thinkers are set to unveil their version of a mission statement for the right.

What they are calling “the Mount Vernon Statement” in homage to George Washington will be unveiled and signed Wednesday — on the eve of the annual gathering in Washington of the establishment right, the Conservative Political Action Conference.

The big names attached to it include former Attorney General Ed Meese, Heritage Foundation President Edwin Feulner, Family Research Council head Tony Perkins, Media Research Center leader Brent Bozell, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist and David Keene, head of the American Conservative Union, which is putting on CPAC, among others.

Organizers would not immediately make the text of the statement available, but they billed it as the next generation of the 1960 “Sharon Statement.” That document, produced by a group of young conservative intellectuals including William F. Buckley Jr. and taking its name from Buckley’s Connecticut hometown, helped define the conservative movement for years.

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KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; conservatives; cpac; grovernorquist; heritagefoundation; norquist; notconservative
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1 posted on 02/12/2010 10:47:56 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

ping


2 posted on 02/12/2010 10:50:05 AM PST by ocr1 (really?.. Really?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Keene and Norquist? No thanks. This seems like it will be a Beltway pubbie manifesto. I think any random 10 Tea Party participants could do a better job.


3 posted on 02/12/2010 10:53:22 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

A whole bunch of right wing statists in this “group”

I have no interest in supporting any expansion of the state, whether it be the right or left


4 posted on 02/12/2010 10:55:20 AM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Sub-Driver
A bunch of once-wases sitting around masturbating.
5 posted on 02/12/2010 10:55:56 AM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Sub-Driver

Conservatives big daddy o’s waking up!

Is it about time or Johnny come latelies???


6 posted on 02/12/2010 10:56:17 AM PST by parisa
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To: Sub-Driver

So after Palin all the establishment players are rushing to display their tea party cred.

Yet last week Palin herself simply pointed out that the Republican Party platform is a fine manifesto—if tea partiers can help get Republicans back to following it.

She is truly ahead of everyone else in the game.


7 posted on 02/12/2010 10:56:21 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Sub-Driver
BTDT


8 posted on 02/12/2010 11:00:23 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Now that there is a parade everyone thinks there is an opening to lead it.


9 posted on 02/12/2010 11:00:23 AM PST by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: AuntB; EternalVigilance
>>> "The big names attached to it include former Attorney General Ed Meese, Heritage Foundation President Edwin Feulner, Family Research Council head Tony Perkins, Media Research Center leader Brent Bozell, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist and David Keene, head of the American Conservative Union, which is putting on CPAC, among others" <<<

*ping*

10 posted on 02/12/2010 11:04:25 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Sub-Driver

Noblesse oblige...we can’t let the riff-raff run this show or they will mess it up for us.
I have faith in the common man to do a better job than the old guard of the Republican Party. It is time for a strong wind to clean out the cobwebs from the party.


11 posted on 02/12/2010 11:08:37 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (How long before we are forced to refresh the Tree of Liberty? Sic semper tryannis)
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To: 9YearLurker
These people are not my leaders.
I consider them to be the ‘Weak Tea’ RINOs.
We had a nice Real Tea Party candidate interview Wednesday.
600 people attended. I bet you have not read any reports about it.
Governor Palin is the best leader.
TWB
ps. Gorver Norquist??? Ick
12 posted on 02/12/2010 11:09:32 AM PST by TWhiteBear (Islam is an ideology with several elements of Judeo Christian traditions)
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To: Sub-Driver

conservatives don’t need a manifesto....

a Declaration of Independence, a US Constitution, and a moral compass are all we need.....(along with the ability to read)


13 posted on 02/12/2010 11:10:09 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sounds like it's coming together- The leaders of the Mt. Vernon Statement are top of the line, plus it seems that there is some possibly great competition:

A coalition of tea party groups and activists will use CPAC to gather support for a guiding document of their own — coined “the Contract From America” — intended to bring together the fractious movement. Plus, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, one of the authors of the 1994 Contract With America — to which the name of the tea party document pays homage — has unveiled his plan for a “new Contract With America" on the pages of the February edition of the conservative Newsmax magazine. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32894.html#ixzz0fLlSFApD

14 posted on 02/12/2010 11:10:50 AM PST by matthew fuller (Has the goracle seen his shadow yet?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ping.. thanks for driving...


15 posted on 02/12/2010 11:14:44 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: Sub-Driver
We've had a traditional mainstream conservative manifesto since the mid-1970`s. Its called, the Reagan agenda and its been incorporated in the GOP party platform.

Stick to a pro-Constitution, pro-capitalism, pro-freedom and pro-America agenda -— less taxes, less spending, less government, pro-military, Pro-Life and anti-amnesty!

16 posted on 02/12/2010 11:23:26 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Sub-Driver

I see a bunch of not so conservative conservatives on this list. Buckley Jr is an idiot Obama lover why in the hell is he, an example of the low end of his father’s gene pool, a part of this group?


17 posted on 02/12/2010 11:23:47 AM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why should I believe a bunch of pretty words from a bunch of Beltway bandits? They’ve already proven that they won’t even follow the simple words of our founding documents.


18 posted on 02/12/2010 11:24:17 AM PST by EternalVigilance (A vote for McCain is a vote for amnesty.)
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To: hennie pennie; All

“Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist and David Keene, head of the American Conservative Union,”

DO NOT be fooled by this! Norquist is the biggest open border advocate around....the author of the Bush/McCain amnesty. A muslim convert who got Bush to coddle muslim extremists...A WOLF in SHEEP’s clothing!
For anything to change with the GOP, Grover has got to be the first to go! He also just endorsed McCain in AZ.

http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/02/10/ouch-that-is-going-to-leave-a-mark/

What you should know about Norquist here:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=gover+norquist


19 posted on 02/12/2010 11:25:19 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: Sub-Driver

We do not require any input from the progressive republicans. Let the Tea Party set the guidelines and these bozo’s need to stop trying to take it over.


20 posted on 02/12/2010 11:29:12 AM PST by stockpirate (Hey Beck, Thomas Jefferson was a birther!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Will Sarah be there?


21 posted on 02/12/2010 11:29:33 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: ocr1

Sarah, Rush, Levin all ought to be there.

And some random tea party folk.


22 posted on 02/12/2010 11:30:05 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: matthew fuller

lol...

These guys are douche bags... And by the way.... Did someone forget to tell them that their “services” are no longer needed? They do not set the agenda.

We do...

Although these feeble attempts at relevance are kinda cute in a funny / sad way, its time to show these fossils the door.


23 posted on 02/12/2010 11:34:59 AM PST by myself6
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To: 9YearLurker

Many, including and especially Scott Brown, are trying to distance themselves from the tea party movement it seems.


24 posted on 02/12/2010 11:35:17 AM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Well said. I agree.


25 posted on 02/12/2010 11:35:58 AM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Fine, put down some ideas on paper then let some real Conservatives such as Palin, Levin, Hannity, Rush, and Coulter edit the final document and I may support it.

Anything that beltway bunch listed in the article comes up with is automatically suspect.

26 posted on 02/12/2010 11:36:11 AM PST by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: Maelstorm
Buckley Jr is an idiot Obama lover why in the hell is he, an example of the low end of his father’s gene pool, a part of this group?

William F. Buckley, Jr., founder of the post WWII conservative movement, died a year ago. His father, William F. Buckley, Sr., died about 50 years ago. Are you possibly thinking of Bill's son, Chris?

27 posted on 02/12/2010 11:36:34 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: eeevil conservative

I agree eevil. And they speak as though once published, we are obligated to follow this “manifesto”. You and I could sit down and write our own manifesto...and who do we think would then be obliged to follow it? Except you and me. What arrogance.


28 posted on 02/12/2010 11:37:27 AM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just hand out copies of the Constitution.


29 posted on 02/12/2010 11:38:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: Doomonyou

Levin was for Romeny, wasn’t he? Another guy who should not be followed.


30 posted on 02/12/2010 11:38:25 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Agreed. This sounds like an effort to resurrect the establishment Republicans.


31 posted on 02/12/2010 11:39:22 AM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Sub-Driver

The leftists in the media and the democrat party are desperate to revitalize the leftists in the republican party. Expect a newpush to try and give the “Grand Old Progressives” some kind of relevance in the conservative movement.

Its time to retire these fossils.


32 posted on 02/12/2010 11:40:05 AM PST by myself6
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To: stockpirate
We do not require any input from the progressive republicans.

Maybe they can have a line item on their ideas for combating global warming and then invite Pelosi over for a group photo to show they really, really want to work with Democrats on the issue.

33 posted on 02/12/2010 11:40:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: a fool in paradise

Best idea so far......


34 posted on 02/12/2010 11:42:28 AM PST by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver
Read Mark Levin's Epilogue in his book, Liberty and Tyranny A Conservative Manifesto
35 posted on 02/12/2010 11:42:45 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Victory or Death)
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To: Sub-Driver

No offense, but you guys ain’t Bill Buckley.


36 posted on 02/12/2010 11:43:48 AM PST by mfournier (Mount Vernon Statement)
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To: Sub-Driver

37 posted on 02/12/2010 11:46:38 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: dirtboy
Levin was for Romeny, wasn’t he? Another guy who should not be followed.

Don't remember, but I know he was against McCain. We didn't have much choice last go around.

38 posted on 02/12/2010 11:47:49 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Who appointed these people?


39 posted on 02/12/2010 11:48:58 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Sub-Driver

some of the negative sentiment has probably been provoked by the “manifesto” in the headline, WHICH WAS THE INTENT of the headline.

I agree if those are the “big names” it’s not very impressive. But the story is intentionally pushing you against them. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT??!!


40 posted on 02/12/2010 11:50:55 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Reagan Man
Our "manifesto":

America's Independent Party Constitution and Platform

Constitution

As free citizens of the United States and founders of America’s Independent Party, we stand in agreement with the founders of our American Republic. Following their example, we declare to the world that our first governmental premise is the self-evident truth that our rights to life, liberty and private property come from our Creator God and are therefore unalienable. With those patriots, we understand that just government can only exist by the consent of the governed.

Our pledge, individually and corporately, is to seek to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. We will diligently work to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity, and thereby fulfill the stated purposes of the Constitution of the United States and this organization.

In recognition of the multitude of ways in which our nation’s leaders have departed from America’s founding principles, we hereby petition local, state and federal government for redress of such grievances, with the urgent imperative demand that each and every officer of government henceforth faithfully perform their sworn duty to defend innocent human life and constitutional republican governance.

Our work is dedicated to our God; to all the patriots who came before us in self-sacrifice for liberty; to all of those who now faithfully serve our country; and to the posterity that will enjoy the blessed fruit of all their labors.

Together, as Americans, let us find the principled grounds for cooperation that will allow us to fully restore moral government of, by and for the people.

E pluribus unum.

Platform

Preface

America's Independent Party has as its goal the return of our nation to a set of foundational principles. We call them "America's Principles." The word "principle" comes from a Latin root that means "first things." America's Principles are the "first things" that our country should consider in all of our domestic and foreign policies.

America's Independent Party recognizes that these "first things" are clearly defined in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.

However, we also believe that there is room for debate over prudential policy matters within certain parameters of fundamental American political thought and a framework of ordered liberty. We seek a return to an approach to government that facilitates that respectful and necessary debate, but that never compromises the moral premises that made this country great.

Our civic duties

Though in civic terms we call ourselves "Independent," we fully acknowledge our utter dependence, as individuals and as a nation, on Almighty God and His divine Providence and Protection.

We also recognize, and seek to actively fulfill, our God-ordained obligations as individual citizens to the whole sovereign body of the people, as well as our responsibility to maintain standards of high moral character, both personally and in our public life.

Equal rights for our posterity

Because the stated ultimate purpose of the United States Constitution is "to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity," we recognize the personhood of all unborn children and their protection by the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.

The right to life of all innocent persons, from fertilization to natural death, is God-given and unalienable. That is why we consider it to be a moral imperative to fully establish in law that Personhood is granted by our Creator to all human beings from the very beginning of their biological development.

For the principled man or woman, no compromise is possible concerning such a critical matter of life and death. We believe that violators of this supreme right, in words or actions, are unfit for any office of public trust, since any such violation constitutes the breaking of the oath of office and the ultimate destruction of the very basis of our liberty.

The “reason for being” of government, and of America’s Independent Party

The protection of the life, liberty, and private property of the people is the primary reason for the existence of human government, and more particularly, our precious American republican form of self-government. This is why we willingly accept no breach of the rights of the free exercise of religion, free speech, free press, free assembly, free association, and the right to petition government for the redress of grievances. We defend all of the enumerated rights listed in our Bill of Rights, and, in addition, all natural rights that are not enumerated, as per the Ninth Amendment.

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms

The right of self-preservation and self-protection is inherent in all persons, communities and societies, which is why we fiercely defend the indispensable provisions of our Second Amendment. Liberty cannot be protected if the people have been stripped of the physical means of doing so.

Restoring limited government

We seek to restore the intended balance between the three separate branches of our government, and to strictly limit government to the Enumerated Powers granted and expressed by the will of the people of the United States in our Constitution.

All existing functions of the Executive branch that are outside of those Enumerated Powers must be eliminated.

All spending and regulation by the Legislative branch that lies outside the Enumerated Powers must cease.

Judges who attempt to legislate from the bench, or who abandon the clear principles of our Constitution, must be checked if liberty and justice are to prevail in our society once again.

We demand a return to adherence to the provisions of the Tenth Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Peace through Strength

We believe in a supremely strong, prepared, and well-equipped civilian-controlled United States military, and a bold, visionary and intelligent program of principled constructive engagement with the rest of the world. For us, "peace through strength" is not a mere slogan. It is the means of survival for our country in a very dangerous and often hostile world. Our friendship should be a sought-after possession of all men and women of good will everywhere in the world. Our enmity should be something that all rightfully fear.

As Ronald Reagan opposed and defeated the designs and desire of the Soviet Union to dominate the world and place it under the tyranny of their Evil Empire, we stand unalterably opposed to all who approve of, plan or commit terrorist acts. Since the first principle of America is the protection of innocent human life, any who would use acts of terrorism targeted at innocent civilians to forward their political, ideological or religious aims incur our effective and determined enmity.

Sovereignty

We completely oppose any action that surrenders the moral, political or economic sovereignty of the United States and its people, and demand the immediate restoration of that sovereignty wherever it has been eroded.

We demand the immediate securing and continuous vigilant maintenance of our sovereign territory and borders. We oppose any private or governmental action that rewards illegal entry into the United States in any way, and demand speedy and full enforcement of our laws concerning all such activities.

Repeal of the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments

We consider the federal income tax to be destructive of our liberty, privacy, and prosperity. Therefore, we are working to bring about its complete elimination and the repeal of the Sixteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. We recommend that the current system be replaced by an equitable, simple, noninvasive, visible, efficient tax, one that does not destroy or even infringe upon our economic privacy and liberty.

We also call for the repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment. Its enactment greatly reduced the power of our state legislatures and state governments – which are much closer to the people – and damaged our system of federalism.

Marriage and the natural family

We seek the passage of a Federal Marriage Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and oppose all attempts everywhere to redefine marriage as being anything but what it has always been: the union of one man and one woman. Since the natural family is the basic God-given institution of our civilization, and the nursery of our future, it must be protected from all who would destroy it.

America’s Principles work

America's Independent Party is a principled party, but it is also a practical party. We believe that America's Principles work whenever the people diligently put them into practice.

We invite all like-minded Americans to join with us in our fight to restore and protect Liberty.

Truly, this is intended to be AMERICA’S Independent Party.

Approved in Convention August 20, 2008

© 2008 America’s Independent Party

41 posted on 02/12/2010 11:51:46 AM PST by EternalVigilance (A vote for McCain is a vote for amnesty.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Most of this crowd appear to be part of the Republicrat Party....or am I missing something here?


42 posted on 02/12/2010 11:52:53 AM PST by mo
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To: Doomonyou
However, Levin said this about Romeny:

The only one left standing who can honestly be said to share most of our conservative principles is Mitt Romney.

And I guess Levin wanted to be fooled, which is never a good thing. I can see saying Romney isn't as bad as McCain, although that's like saying one skunk don't stink as bad as another. But Romney in no way or form shares most of our conservative principles, if you look at his history instead of what he is currently running for.

43 posted on 02/12/2010 11:55:51 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Agreed.

It's all relative, sometimes you have to go with the lesser of two evils.

44 posted on 02/12/2010 12:02:46 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Doomonyou
It's all relative, sometimes you have to go with the lesser of two evils.

The motto of the modern Republican Party.

And folks wonder why the country is going to hell in a handbasket.

45 posted on 02/12/2010 12:05:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance (A vote for McCain is a vote for amnesty.)
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To: EternalVigilance
And folks wonder why the country is going to hell in a handbasket.

More and more folks appear to be waking up, we ain't to hell yet!

46 posted on 02/12/2010 12:14:25 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Will Sarah be there?

Unfortunately she would fit right in...arm and arm with McCain and Perry.

48 posted on 02/12/2010 2:02:42 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t get why everyone is complaining so much on this thread. You want all of these folks to NOT come up with a conservative manifesto? Why not?

Let them publish their work and then we’ll all see what it says. If it is a good manifesto then that’s great and we’ll all know it.

I think it might be helpful to have a widely disseminated, well-written, much-discussed distillation of conservative principles to organize around. Let’s use it in the primaries to get conservative nominees. Then use it in the general election to explain why folks should vote GOP. And then use it during the next Congress to guide the new GOP majority’s actions and determine who are RINOs that need a primary challenger next time.

What’s wrong with having a manifesto? The ‘Rat media are going to continue to portray us as the “party of no”. A manifesto could be a useful tool for countering this depiction.


49 posted on 02/12/2010 2:15:07 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: DallasSun; eeevil conservative

I’m not followin’ any document that ends in -o-!

Manifesto! Puh-h-h-l-e-e-e-e-z.

I’m not following a tea party contract , or a new Newt, either! I’m an American and I already have a document to follow. When November gets here...I’ll be following it.

What we already have is GREAT! We just need to pay attention to it!


50 posted on 02/12/2010 3:13:58 PM PST by daisy mae for the usa
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