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What to say to a 'warmer' (ClimateGate and its baby gates from the IPCC et al.)
Orange County Register ^ | 2010-02-12 | Mark Landsbaum

Posted on 02/14/2010 3:30:58 PM PST by neverdem

It has been tough to keep up with all the bad news for global warming alarmists. We're on the edge of our chair, waiting for the next shoe to drop. This has been an Imelda Marcos kind of season for shoe-dropping about global warming.

At your next dinner party, here are some of the latest talking points to bring up when someone reminds you that Al Gore and the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change won Nobel prizes for their work on global warming.

ClimateGate – This scandal began the latest round of revelations when thousands of leaked documents from Britain's East Anglia Climate Research Unit showed systematic suppression and discrediting of climate skeptics' views and discarding of temperature data, suggesting a bias for making the case for warming. Why do such a thing if, as global warming defenders contend, the "science is settled?"

FOIGate – The British government has since determined someone at East Anglia committed a crime by refusing to release global warming documents sought in 95 Freedom of Information Act requests. The CRU is one of three international agencies compiling global temperature data. If their stuff's so solid, why the secrecy?

ChinaGate – An investigation by the U.K.'s left-leaning Guardian newspaper found evidence that Chinese weather station measurements not only were seriously flawed, but couldn't be located. "Where exactly are 42 weather monitoring stations in remote parts of rural China?" the paper asked. The paper's investigation also couldn't find corroboration of what Chinese scientists turned over to American scientists, leaving unanswered, "how much of the warming seen in recent decades is due to the local effects of spreading cities, rather than global warming?" The Guardian contends that researchers covered up the missing data for years.

HimalayaGate – An Indian climate official admitted in January that, as lead...

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 02/14/2010 3:30:58 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

That’s way too much information to write on my hand.


2 posted on 02/14/2010 3:36:35 PM PST by revtown
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To: neverdem

I just ask why the northern part of north America isn’t covered with 2 miles of ice like it was 13,000 years ago...


3 posted on 02/14/2010 3:37:04 PM PST by DB
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To: neverdem
What to say to a 'warmer' (ClimateGate and its baby gates from the IPCC et al.)

I say: "Arrogance a God doesn't make".

4 posted on 02/14/2010 3:39:49 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: neverdem

Good read.

But arguing with an idiot is a waste of time.


5 posted on 02/14/2010 3:40:07 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (According to the MSM, I'm a fringe sitting, pajama wearing, Freeper)
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To: neverdem
Please make sure everyone you know sees this one. It's been around for a while, but it's the best out there for the average guy on the street...

It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite another to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply one video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the one...


The following is an excellent video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link. Information about BitTorrent protocol and BitTorrent clients and their comparison at these three links (in this sentence). Some additional BitTorrent information here and here.

Download it here...
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[This is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size. This link is the information about it, and you have to click the download link to get it on your BitTorrent client software. You'll also find users' comments here, too.]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course..., and also, you can download flash video on a website either yourself or some software doing it.]

Buy it on DVD here...
[this would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...] At Amazon, it seems to be high-priced now and have only a few copies right now.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE

At WAGtv (a UK shop), but don't know about shipping. The price is reasonable, though.
https://www.wagtv.com/product/The-Great-Global-Warming-Swindle-322.html
[And..., some information from WAGtv about this item.]


Also, in split parts on YouTube...

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rGpDMN8lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzFL6Ixe_bo

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQy2rT_dvU

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzIMXGI6k8

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GjOgQN1Jco

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHI2GfbfrYw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9benJh3Lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Credits (Part 9 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1ifP-ri58

6 posted on 02/14/2010 3:44:27 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: neverdem

“warmer” - my oh my - that is worse than being a “birther”. I can’t wait to use the term.


7 posted on 02/14/2010 3:57:02 PM PST by chickadee
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To: neverdem
Outstanding collection of data points! Thanks for posting. It's wonderful fun to watch the whole thing unravel at such breakneck speed. The entire Democrat party and their RINO accomplices should be prosecuted and convicted under RICO of attempting to defraud the US out of trillions of dollars. They should get much longer sentences than Madoff for this criminal behavior.

On HimalayaGate, Landsbaum should have provided a little more detail like Mark Steyn did a week or so ago:

The IPCC made the "Himalayan glaciers melted by 2030" claim in a footnote in their 2007 report.

Their source? A 2005 World Wildlife Fund (an advocacy organization) report which mentioned the claim.

And their source? A 1999 article in pop-science magazine.

And that guy's source? A scientist who now admits he was merely "idly speculating" and had done absolutely no research whatsoever on the topic whatsoever.

So this went from a 1999 "helper quote" -- look, the guy just said this to give the writer something juicy for a nothing little article -- to accepted IPCC fact in less than ten years,
with absolutely no science whatsoever supporting it.

And the IPCC now admits there was never any science behind it, but it was just the sort of thing they thought they should put in:

Dr. Murari Lal, the “scientist” who included the 2035 glacier apocalypse in the IPCC report, told Britain’s Mail on Sunday that he knew it wasn’t based on “peer-reviewed science” but “we thought we should put it in”—for political reasons.

8 posted on 02/14/2010 4:01:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DB

Rush said “What warming...caused the ice age to end??”


9 posted on 02/14/2010 4:03:37 PM PST by omega4179
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To: neverdem
Possible scenario--Evil men at Goldman Sachs, along with George Soros and assorted other evil billionaires intent on domination invest in a few crackpot professors. The professors probably come pretty cheap to a billionaire. For a few hundred thousand a head, selected over several countries, paid to scare the public so that the Evil Billionaires can cash in huge on selling "carbon credits"--

Then buy up some science magazine editors, promise them fame or just plain bribe them to call the remaining unbought scientists dirty names. Holocaust deniers, or something like that.

For a lousy few million dollars, you could end up with trillions.

10 posted on 02/14/2010 4:10:31 PM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: chickadee

I like “warm-mongers”, myself.


11 posted on 02/14/2010 4:12:22 PM PST by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: Politicalmom

That’s a great term, but a little obscure unless it’s in writing. It will be a pleasure to tell someone dismissively that s/he is a “warmer”. I’m chuckling already.


12 posted on 02/14/2010 4:15:09 PM PST by chickadee
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To: DB

It’s because SUV’s weren’t invented until 12,000 years ago..../sarc


13 posted on 02/14/2010 4:19:31 PM PST by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: neverdem; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; Desdemona; Little Bill; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 02/14/2010 4:24:25 PM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: neverdem
At your next dinner party, here are some of the latest talking points to bring up when someone reminds you that Al Gore and the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change won Nobel prizes for their work on global warming.

Well there's a good point. For some time now, I have been dropping notes on the Nobel website along these lines....

To the Nobel Prize Committee,

I have both a general and a specific question. 1. Has a recipient ever been asked to give back a Nobel prize? 2. Specifically, now that global warming has been proved beyond doubt to be nothing but a scam, when can we expect that you will be asking Al Gore for his Nobel prize back?http://nobelprize.org/contact/index.html I would love to see this site bombarded with questions like this.

15 posted on 02/14/2010 4:25:42 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest... ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: neverdem
I think we need to follow a divergent trail, now that the climatologist perps have been found out and confessed. Now I want to know who were their co-conspirators in bringing forth this attempt to coopt entire nations into a morally bankrupt UN to "save the world". I want to know if Al Gore was one of their 'front-men'. Where is he? Should he have to relinquish his mantle of awards from the Nobel joke to the Oscar (or whateverthehell it was)? Did he attempt to fulminate international insurrection by "playing on our fears", all the while knowing he was pumping fictitous sunshine up our bungs. You cannot scream "fire" in a crowded building, yet in effect, Gore made nie-on a quarter of a billion dollars personally by screaming "global warming" on a crowded planet, asserting if the United States did not "poney up" the cash and ceede sovereignty to a gangster organization like the United Nations,and do it NOW, the globe would be reduced to cockroaches and democrats (sorry to be repeatitive).

He called for allegiance to an international body over America. They have a word for that, don't they? But it seems Gore is on the lam, not being seen since the disposition of the East Anglia e-mails were disclosed.

So, I ask, What did Gore know, and when did he know it?

16 posted on 02/14/2010 4:30:24 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: neverdem
Just compare them to the “I can’t belive its not butter” people . It’s funny to watch their reaction as you go on and on about how those people refuse to beleve tha its not butter ;)
17 posted on 02/14/2010 4:39:17 PM PST by Freak Flag
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To: chickadee

‘“warmer” - my oh my - that is worse than being a “birther”. I can’t wait to use the term.’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I prefer the much more scientifically accurate term “nitwit”.


18 posted on 02/14/2010 4:47:32 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: omega4179

Technically we are still in an ice age now. We are simply in a interglacial period within this current ice age. When this ice age ends, it will get much, much warmer.

Another glacial period is much more likely though...


19 posted on 02/14/2010 5:05:34 PM PST by DB
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To: omega4179

I just ask them if they have ever been to Yosemite. Most have and then I ask them how the valley was formed. Most know but if they don’t I inform then. Then I ask, so what happened to the glacier? This usually stops them right there. Unbelievably, many if not most people believe the climate has been stable thoughout the history of the earth and is only changing now because of AGW.


20 posted on 02/14/2010 5:29:27 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: Mamzelle
It's easier than that. Instead of the evil men putting out millions to the nutty professors, they use a few hundred thousand to bribe politicians to give millions of taxpayer funds to professors.
21 posted on 02/14/2010 5:34:21 PM PST by expatpat
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To: DB

Nonsense. The inter-galacial periods are warm periods between ice ages. The next big temperature move is down, into the next ice age.


22 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:49 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
The Himalayan Mountains debacle (buzzer sound) was part of why the IPCC and Gore won the Prize..makes the Nobel Prize credibility-zip, zero, nada, yawns..

In fact, "The Internet" is up for the next Nobel Prize..now will Al Gore win......again? Ask the little Nobel Prize bean counters that question?

23 posted on 02/14/2010 5:41:34 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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Former Illinois Governor George Ryan – now imprisoned after being convicted of federal corruption charges (aren't they all?) – was nominated by Francis A. Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, for his campaign to abolish the death penalty.

Ryan knew he was on the way to spend some TIME...laughs at that one..added to the new Nobel Prize list..a joke the Prize has become!!

24 posted on 02/14/2010 5:49:02 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: neverdem
What to say to a 'warmer'

Get back on your meds!@

25 posted on 02/14/2010 6:35:36 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: Freak Flag
It’s funny to watch their reaction as you go on and on about how those people refuse to beleve tha its not butter ;)

Chuck Norris can believe it's not butter.

26 posted on 02/14/2010 6:48:40 PM PST by thulldud
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To: thulldud

What’s the matter algore? snowed in? HA HA HA HA


27 posted on 02/14/2010 7:06:32 PM PST by Rodm
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To: neverdem

The “science teacher” guy at youtube “wonderingmind42” has spent years of his own time making scary videos designed to propagate the myth. I wonder if he’s pissed yet.


28 posted on 02/14/2010 8:31:24 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: kingattax

We were almost on target with, “Globalwarmer!”


29 posted on 02/14/2010 9:55:50 PM PST by taraytarah
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To: ImaTexan

ping


30 posted on 02/14/2010 9:59:05 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: expatpat

Wrong.


31 posted on 02/15/2010 12:04:31 AM PST by DB
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To: molybdenum; caww; Impy; TigersEye; MeekOneGOP

Climategate Headline Roundup II

‘There has been no global warming for 15 years’...
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/158214

Signs of “Snow-Munity”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450516/posts

Blizzard of Lies: Debunking The Warm-Air-Holds-More-Moisture Defense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2449802/posts

Earlier Climategate and Snowmageddon Headline Roundup:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2449802/posts?page=74#74

No Snow? Global Warming! Too Much Snow? Global Warming!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2450188/posts?page=1

RUSH IN A HURRY — Flashback: Liberals Said NO Snow Proved Global Warming
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2450319/posts?page=5
[Transcripts in posts following article.]
Also included: “Senator Rockefeller said, ‘Obama’s beginning to not be believable to me.’

Gore’s Profits Of Doom
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2377902/posts

Sloppy Paper Keeping on the Global-Warming Hockey Stick?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450905/posts
Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have

actually lost the relevant papers.

What to say to a ‘warmer’ (ClimateGate and its baby gates from the IPCC et al.)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2451377/posts

THE GREAT CLIMATE CHANGE RETREAT! [Big Letters in Drudge]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row

-admits-data-organised.html

UN climate panel admits Dutch sea level flaw...
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61C1V420100213

Utah delivers vote of no confidence for ‘climate alarmists’...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/feb/12/utah-climate-alarmists

Durbin: DC residents panic as if snowstorm is ‘nuclear attack’...
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/80925-durbin-dc-residents-panic-as-if-snow-is-a-nuclear-attack

Rare snowflakes start falling from Miss. to Fla....
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9DQP5NG0&show_article=1

Youtube collection on ClimateGate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2451377/posts?page=6#6


32 posted on 02/15/2010 4:16:50 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: DB
I just ask why the northern part of north America isn’t covered with 2 miles of ice like it was 13,000 years ago...

The Canadians rebelled, and started driving SUVs.

33 posted on 02/15/2010 8:16:20 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
I just ask why the northern part of north America isn’t covered with 2 miles of ice like it was 13,000 years ago...

The Canadians rebelled, and started driving SUVs.

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ROFLMBO!

34 posted on 03/13/2010 2:51:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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