Skip to comments.What to say to a 'warmer' (ClimateGate and its baby gates from the IPCC et al.)
Posted on 02/14/2010 3:30:58 PM PST by neverdem
It has been tough to keep up with all the bad news for global warming alarmists. We're on the edge of our chair, waiting for the next shoe to drop. This has been an Imelda Marcos kind of season for shoe-dropping about global warming.
At your next dinner party, here are some of the latest talking points to bring up when someone reminds you that Al Gore and the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change won Nobel prizes for their work on global warming.
ClimateGate This scandal began the latest round of revelations when thousands of leaked documents from Britain's East Anglia Climate Research Unit showed systematic suppression and discrediting of climate skeptics' views and discarding of temperature data, suggesting a bias for making the case for warming. Why do such a thing if, as global warming defenders contend, the "science is settled?"
FOIGate The British government has since determined someone at East Anglia committed a crime by refusing to release global warming documents sought in 95 Freedom of Information Act requests. The CRU is one of three international agencies compiling global temperature data. If their stuff's so solid, why the secrecy?
ChinaGate An investigation by the U.K.'s left-leaning Guardian newspaper found evidence that Chinese weather station measurements not only were seriously flawed, but couldn't be located. "Where exactly are 42 weather monitoring stations in remote parts of rural China?" the paper asked. The paper's investigation also couldn't find corroboration of what Chinese scientists turned over to American scientists, leaving unanswered, "how much of the warming seen in recent decades is due to the local effects of spreading cities, rather than global warming?" The Guardian contends that researchers covered up the missing data for years.
HimalayaGate An Indian climate official admitted in January that, as lead...
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That’s way too much information to write on my hand.
I just ask why the northern part of north America isn’t covered with 2 miles of ice like it was 13,000 years ago...
I say: "Arrogance a God doesn't make".
But arguing with an idiot is a waste of time.
Its one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but its quite another to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...
THEREFORE..., its also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply one video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the one...
The following is an excellent video documentary on the so-called Global Warming I would recommend it to all FReepers. Its a very well-made documentary.
The Great Global Warming Swindle
If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link. Information about BitTorrent protocol and BitTorrent clients and their comparison at these three links (in this sentence). Some additional BitTorrent information here and here.
Download it here...
[This is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size. This link is the information about it, and you have to click the download link to get it on your BitTorrent client software. You'll also find users' comments here, too.]
Its worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.
Also, see it online here...
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course..., and also, you can download flash video on a website either yourself or some software doing it.]
Buy it on DVD here...
[this would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...] At Amazon, it seems to be high-priced now and have only a few copies right now.
At WAGtv (a UK shop), but don't know about shipping. The price is reasonable, though.
[And..., some information from WAGtv about this item.]
Also, in split parts on YouTube...
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 9)
The Great Global Warming Swindle - Credits (Part 9 of 9)
“warmer” - my oh my - that is worse than being a “birther”. I can’t wait to use the term.
On HimalayaGate, Landsbaum should have provided a little more detail like Mark Steyn did a week or so ago:
The IPCC made the "Himalayan glaciers melted by 2030" claim in a footnote in their 2007 report.
Their source? A 2005 World Wildlife Fund (an advocacy organization) report which mentioned the claim.
And their source? A 1999 article in pop-science magazine.
And that guy's source? A scientist who now admits he was merely "idly speculating" and had done absolutely no research whatsoever on the topic whatsoever.
So this went from a 1999 "helper quote" -- look, the guy just said this to give the writer something juicy for a nothing little article -- to accepted IPCC fact in less than ten years,
with absolutely no science whatsoever supporting it.
And the IPCC now admits there was never any science behind it, but it was just the sort of thing they thought they should put in:
Dr. Murari Lal, the scientist who included the 2035 glacier apocalypse in the IPCC report, told Britains Mail on Sunday that he knew it wasnt based on peer-reviewed science but we thought we should put it infor political reasons.
Rush said “What warming...caused the ice age to end??”
Then buy up some science magazine editors, promise them fame or just plain bribe them to call the remaining unbought scientists dirty names. Holocaust deniers, or something like that.
For a lousy few million dollars, you could end up with trillions.
I like “warm-mongers”, myself.
That’s a great term, but a little obscure unless it’s in writing. It will be a pleasure to tell someone dismissively that s/he is a “warmer”. I’m chuckling already.
It’s because SUV’s weren’t invented until 12,000 years ago..../sarc
Well there's a good point. For some time now, I have been dropping notes on the Nobel website along these lines....
To the Nobel Prize Committee,
I have both a general and a specific question. 1. Has a recipient ever been asked to give back a Nobel prize? 2. Specifically, now that global warming has been proved beyond doubt to be nothing but a scam, when can we expect that you will be asking Al Gore for his Nobel prize back?http://nobelprize.org/contact/index.html I would love to see this site bombarded with questions like this.
He called for allegiance to an international body over America. They have a word for that, don't they? But it seems Gore is on the lam, not being seen since the disposition of the East Anglia e-mails were disclosed.
So, I ask, What did Gore know, and when did he know it?
‘warmer - my oh my - that is worse than being a birther. I cant wait to use the term.’
I prefer the much more scientifically accurate term “nitwit”.
Technically we are still in an ice age now. We are simply in a interglacial period within this current ice age. When this ice age ends, it will get much, much warmer.
Another glacial period is much more likely though...
I just ask them if they have ever been to Yosemite. Most have and then I ask them how the valley was formed. Most know but if they don’t I inform then. Then I ask, so what happened to the glacier? This usually stops them right there. Unbelievably, many if not most people believe the climate has been stable thoughout the history of the earth and is only changing now because of AGW.