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CPAC Surprise: Ron Paul Wins 2010 CPAC Straw Poll
http://www.gather.com/ ^ | February 20, 2010 | Laurel Elise Ava

Posted on 02/20/2010 8:52:39 PM PST by Maelstorm

Texas Representative Ron Paul won the 2010 CPAC straw poll tonight, beating out both Mitt Romney & Sarah Palin, and raking in 31% of the vote. Paul, a Libertarian who is perhaps best known for his aggressive stance against the Federal Reserve, has a dedicated group of followers which have again affirmed their influence within the Republican party.

What this means for a 2012 bid for presidency is uncertain, however; Paul’s supporters were a vocal and visible group when he ran for President in 2008, but in the end, Paul walked away with only a small percentage of the actual votes. According the Huffington Post, Paul was the most anticipated speaker at the three-day convention, and his followers flooded the auditorium to hear him speak; yet when the results of the straw poll were announced, the crowd booed loudly.

Perhaps this shows just how much Paul’s old-school approach to Republicanism fractures the GOP. Ron Paul is an unorthodox figure in the political scene; his libertarian manifesto, The Revolution, is a New York Times bestseller; he rallies against neoconservatives and liberals alike while preaching states rights, free-market economics, and small government.

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Well this explains the prevalence of the gay activist sympathizers. Paul and Mitt, now that is a recipe for disaster. While I agree with much of Paul's small government ideas he still doesn't seem to understand the reality of national security and the role of the US in the world. Mitt still doesn't talk like a small government conservative but then again how could he? When you support mandating people buy insurance and a health plan not a whole lot different than some of the democrat variants it is hard to believe he is what we need. I think what these results show as has the past two years of CPAC is that CPAC is no longer even close in representing mainstream conservative thought. It is a tool for the Republican party. If we want lawyers and millionaires who think only to a slightly lesser degree than the leftist socialists that they represent messiah like hope for the great unwashed to represent us then CPAC is representative. They don't have a big picture approach outside of conservative veneer. They don't see what we are doing as a battle for liberty and principle but seemingly only as an exercise of political expediency.

The left has a strategy to break us and force our submission. They have implemented it and have succeeded in wearing us down. Does anyone think that the Republican leaders would've resisted the call for Cap and Trade if it were not for us in the grass roots? Do you think they would have resisted the increasing pressure to call what is a sexual behavior a civil right? Do you think they would've resisted Health Care when Mitt Romney an architect of the oppressive Massachusetts health care plan is the one they wanted as our Presidential candidate? We need a plan to break the left. The Tea Party is the first time conservatives with a real plan based on founding principles has coalesced and we are breaking them as much as they are breaking themselves. We have plenty even in these forums that are eager to go back to the status quo. They want to elect liberal Republicans just so we can get an easy win and wont have to actually work, explain, and advocate principles that appeal universally to voters when articulated well, instead they want to sneak in.

Well the left does work hard because they are like thieves. They know the value of the liberty they are stealing from us. They know the value of the power they are gaining over us by forcing us to accept their false premises, issues, and lifestyles. We as conservatives tend to just want them to go away and leave us alone. We need to keep focused and understand that they will not and that we have to create an execute a solid plan and make them leave us alone.

Those who don't respect liberty or the sovereignty of their fellow man can not be trusted and can not be left to their own devices because while we sleep they are plotting and no matter how ridiculous and ugly their ideas are to the strong it is the fact they prey on the weak and the bitter and hopeless as serfs to their desires.

1 posted on 02/20/2010 8:52:39 PM PST by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4880717

fast forward to 20:45 for cpac reaction to paul straw


2 posted on 02/20/2010 8:56:20 PM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll vote 4 conservatives...Mitt won't get my vote)
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To: Maelstorm
While I agree with much of Paul's small government ideas he still doesn't seem to understand the reality of national security and the role of the US in the world.

You do, do ya Ms. Laurel Elise Ava?

Tell me then, why during the Bush administration did they stand by and watch, and actually aid and abet, tens of millions of people, and God knows what else, to enter the U.S. illegally, during war time?

3 posted on 02/20/2010 8:57:47 PM PST by dragnet2 (We're not talking about those in the military here.)
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To: Maelstorm

Progressives don’t merely want to destroy the constitution. They want to destroy all of our hallowed institutions: the military, Judeo-Christian morality, the traditional family, our culture and national identity.


4 posted on 02/20/2010 8:59:47 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Maelstorm

How the hell did Romney come in second? The man is a certifiable ass. He needs to quit his political career and start promoting Just for Men.


5 posted on 02/20/2010 8:59:47 PM PST by Rodebrecht (No army can stop an idea whose time has come.)
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To: Maelstorm

You have to give Paul credit. He was able to get everyone who voted for him in 2008 into one room to vote for him in the CPAC Straw Poll. Impressive.


6 posted on 02/20/2010 9:00:40 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Maelstorm

So...somebody start a thread here....
make a list of true Conservatives....

and a list of Big Govt. Republican Rats....

Tom Trancredo= True Conservative
Sarah Palin= True Conservative
Ann Coulter= True Conservative
Tom McClintock= True Conservative
etc. etc. etc.

Mitt Romney= Big Govt. Rat
John McCain= Big Govt Rat
Lindsay Graham= Big Govt Rat


7 posted on 02/20/2010 9:01:57 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Patrick1

There are a lot more but they voted for Obama in the general. They don’t want to hear all this talk about cutting taxes and personal responsibility; they just wanted to gut the military.


8 posted on 02/20/2010 9:02:45 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: dragnet2

The Bush administration at least listened when we stopped them on Immigration. Obama has undone most of what we accomplished with his election. Immigration enforcement has fallen precipitously and no one has noticed.


9 posted on 02/20/2010 9:04:14 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Rodebrecht

What happens with CPAC is a bunch of people truck in their supporters. Sarah would’ve did much better if she had been there most of her supporters aren’t CPAC types.


10 posted on 02/20/2010 9:05:27 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: dragnet2

What is a Laurel Elise Ava?


11 posted on 02/20/2010 9:06:49 PM PST by ansel12 ( (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.))
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To: Maelstorm
The Bush administration at least listened when we stopped them on Immigration.

LOL!

You'd have better luck convincing me that IRS employees are sponsoring tea party events.

12 posted on 02/20/2010 9:07:10 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Maelstorm

Its no surprise. Last summer I joined a conservative social networking group. Ron Paul people have spammed it into almost nothingness. First wave came in preaching founding principles. You know, things like “separation of church and state” which aren’t in the constitution. We fought that off. Then came a wave hollering about “neocons” and the war. They just hammer and hammer until people walk away.


13 posted on 02/20/2010 9:09:45 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: dragnet2; Maelstorm
The Bush administration at least listened when we stopped them on Immigration.

LOL!

You'd have better luck convincing me that IRS employees are sponsoring tea party events.

"See you at the bill signing" wasn't listening. It was his arrogant way of saying he's going full steam ahead with amnesty in spite of the fact that most Americans (including his conservative base) said they did not want it.

14 posted on 02/20/2010 9:11:15 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Rodebrecht

CPAC is overrun with doe-eyed, altruistic college kids who eat the spoon-fed rhetoric. Mitt’s slickness is close to Clintons, and has the charm and appeal the kids like. I was saddened to see Newt rank as high as he did, too.


15 posted on 02/20/2010 9:13:10 PM PST by Mengerian
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To: South40

My friend from the south has a good memory.

Thank you.


16 posted on 02/20/2010 9:13:51 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Maelstorm
Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Mike Huckabee, etc etc -- this is all a bad dream.

Getting very discouraged as a Conservative out here. Where are our Conservative leaders?? Do we have any??

We desperately NEED a Conservartive party? Who is going to step up and form it?

17 posted on 02/20/2010 9:15:00 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Conservatives must form own party.Lib Repubs move to Dem party.Pub party defunct.Two parties again.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Conservartive = Conservative - dang


18 posted on 02/20/2010 9:15:41 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Conservatives must form own party.Lib Repubs move to Dem party.Pub party defunct.Two parties again.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

We have them but we have few that are independently wealthy or the charisma and sadly that seems to be the primary criteria at least for the Republican party today.


19 posted on 02/20/2010 9:17:14 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Rodebrecht

“How the hell did Romney come in second?”

Because he lost to Ron Paul. Otherwise he’d be first.


20 posted on 02/20/2010 9:19:24 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom

Great humor


21 posted on 02/20/2010 9:22:52 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Maelstorm

That’s because only about 25% of the attendees voted in the poll, and Ron Paul’s followers are such die-hards that they make sure they vote and in numbers.


22 posted on 02/20/2010 9:40:53 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Maelstorm
Ron Paul first.

Mitt Romney second.

At a conservative convention.

Me:

Head Explode

23 posted on 02/20/2010 9:43:33 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Maelstorm

They really want us to stay home. Sick ba$tards.


24 posted on 02/20/2010 9:50:46 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Maelstorm

The Paul followers are militant and organized and they are now labeling themselves “tea party” to gain support.

There are signs they are running in GOP primaries this year.

The Paulistas need to be watched carefully and we need to find them in primary races this year so we don’t vote for them.


25 posted on 02/20/2010 10:11:35 PM PST by Nextrush (Slocialist Republicans and Socialist Democrats must go)
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To: Brugmansian

They act like left-wingers because Paul’s ranks are filled with them.


26 posted on 02/20/2010 10:13:27 PM PST by Nextrush (Slocialist Republicans and Socialist Democrats must go)
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To: Nextrush

Just over 2000 of the 10,000 attending votes. Reminds me of our normal elections. Could not be bothered, then pitches a fit at the outcome. Vote dummies. Every vote counts. But if you attended the first part and left, you missed the opportunity to vote. Almost the reverse of same day registration. All end with flawed results.


27 posted on 02/20/2010 10:19:22 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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Beck should get a gold medal for outing Ron Paul 'toofer' loon, Medina.

This idea that Beck (or anybody else) sabotaged Medina is absurd. If you can’t answer “did the govt have anything to do with the 9/11 attacks?” you're not be fit to run for dogcatcher.

For God's sake, has anybody really looked into her platform- her background? Has this woman even been vetted?

She wants legalized drugs.

She backs gay marriage.

.

She has not spoken to her elderly parents for YEARS. They had to find out she was runing for governor of Texas by reading the newspaper!

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/medina-hailing-from-beeville-learned-political-skills-on-229907.html?srcTrk=RTR_95609 What does this say about this woman's character? And rumors are begin to surface about husband Noe's past associations.

Take a look at some of the statements she has made: "It’s a shame isn’t it, that Republicans continue to ignore Hispanics especially here in Texas?’

"Who is going to think more about Latino families? Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison or me, who has a Latino family?”

"Being married, however, to someone with a Mexican American heritage, I certainly embrace the culture.”

"I believe we too often get into race when it’s immaterial.” (Obummer, is that you?)

I don't believe for one minute Medina's propaganda about wanting to strengthen the border!

La Raza probably has her in their back pocket!

Glenn Beck has once again helped the tea-party stay in the Republican mainstreamby by weeding out dangerous fringe thinkers like Medina.

Medina is NOT representative of the Tea Party movement. She USED them- latched herself on to them. She’s a hard core Libertarian who has realized that the Libertarian Party will never win anything and that the only possible way to get herself into office is to do what Ron Paul did and wrap herself in the Republican cloak in hopes that it will fool enough of the voters enough of the time. Thank God Glen Beck outed her in time.

Retrieve your sombrero from the ring and go home Senora Medina. You're Texas toast. .

28 posted on 02/20/2010 10:44:07 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

Yes, I and sure hope all other Texans see Medina for what she is. I doubt that you have to worry though...

As to all the critics of the Ron Paul straw poll - Well, you are right and wrong. He has said and supported many ideas that conservatives have supported. He also has some really strange ideas that do NOT jive. Let’s just say that too many are so disenfranchised with both parties that they support an alien like Paul. It is just about getting that bad.

If you put Ron Paul up against Obama - Ron Paul in a minute. That does not mean that he is the best candidate, but just that almost anyone would be better than another 4 years of Obama!


29 posted on 02/20/2010 11:08:55 PM PST by Deagle
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To: patriot08

Good news that...The Paulistas remind me of the Perotistas...same goal also.

Don’t worry - that strategy will be tried but won’t work this time.


30 posted on 02/20/2010 11:10:50 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If American ever ceases to be a nation under God, she will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Nextrush

“The Paul followers are militant and organized and they are now labeling themselves “tea party” to gain support.”

Yes, and I’ve even seen an article by Chuck Baldwin (tinfoil alert) claiming that the initial “Ron Paul Revolution” was the real origin of the Tea Parties. They are no better than leftists— political opportunists with no moral core and no real concept of conservatism. Heck, if Obama promised to provide free marijuana as part of ObamaCare, he’d have the Paulbots voting in lockstep!


31 posted on 02/20/2010 11:31:59 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Deagle

“If you put Ron Paul up against Obama - Ron Paul in a minute. That does not mean that he is the best candidate, but just that almost anyone would be better than another 4 years of Obama!”

Sounds a lot like the “anyone but Bush” rhetoric that got us Obama in the first place.


32 posted on 02/20/2010 11:33:06 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: sthguard

Heh...not it is just that Obama is that bad! Really, I don’t support Ron Paul but he does have some legitimate points. He is just a bit of a kook but what the hey, he also has some things that conservatives should support (if you ignore his crazy rantings)... It’s really okay to understand and adopt some of his ideas without endorsing the person.


33 posted on 02/20/2010 11:37:25 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Maelstorm
You give me a choice between those three, and I would choose Paul as well. I don't think much of Romney. I like Palin, but she stepped down before her term was up.

I don't go as far as Paul in his libertarianism, but he's damn right on a lot of issues.

34 posted on 02/20/2010 11:45:32 PM PST by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Maelstorm
You give me a choice between those three, and I would choose Paul as well. I don't think much of Romney. I like Palin, but she stepped down before her term was up.

I don't go as far as Paul in his libertarianism, but he's damn right on a lot of issues.

35 posted on 02/20/2010 11:45:33 PM PST by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Deagle

I had this problem arguing with RedState... It is not okay to ban all Ron Paul supporters because he and they are a bit crazy. He does have some legitimate ideas as long as you lift the reasonable ones from his rantings. Yes, he is a strange fellow and could never be elected by the majority (and I would thankfully agree). Don’t just ignore the results though as they (CPAC) as least sees the benefit of some of his ideas. He has a conservative (or youthful and unknowing group) following for a reason.


36 posted on 02/20/2010 11:46:33 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Nextrush

There are also strong signs the Paulies plan to challenge local party leadership this year and 2012 to seize control of the party’s at county level.

They have been packing their people in low level local positions to cast votes for the Paulista challenger to party leadership.

That is another reason they never miss a chance to diss the GOP, to weaken it to the point they easily wrest control of it.

Sad thing they don’t realize is that the Libertarian message has not caught on in 40 years. Hanging an ‘R’ behind it will not cause people to embrace it.

It will end up giving us decades of Democrat control.

Yes, we must watch them closley and oust them where we can.


37 posted on 02/20/2010 11:54:45 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: DakotaRed

It’s called Democracy or representation by the Republic. If that happens, then it is because they prevail. Now while I might disagree with the result, it is what should happen! Just how can you disagree with that?


38 posted on 02/20/2010 11:56:59 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Mengerian
Greetings Mengerian:

CPAC is overrun with doe-eyed, altruistic college kids who eat the spoon-fed rhetoric.

This is good news, indeed. Spoon fed a little Glenn Beck quickly changes the doe-eyed into deer in the headlights.

Unfortunately, the CPAC voting process resembles a Chicago polling place near a large cemetary. Under those conditions, the Paulbots stuffing a ballot boxes doesn't qualify breaking news. Paulbots regularly spam poll after poll.

And who could forget how the Paulbots and Hucksters rigged the West Virginia Republican primary caucus during the lunch recess.

Cheers,
OLA

39 posted on 02/21/2010 12:02:38 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others cite your source.)
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To: Maelstorm
What happens with CPAC is a bunch of people truck in their supporters.

CPAC is infested with sodomite and leftist participants, for crying out loud. What can we believe from this group?

40 posted on 02/21/2010 12:05:24 AM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: ansel12

I believe it’s the author of this article.


41 posted on 02/21/2010 12:06:18 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Yes, the polling resembled Chicago - they had to actually request a ballot and stand in line to vote... heh. Hmmm, not quite like Chicago, no dead people voting, no crazy hoodlums standing outside with truncheons, and no Rahm... Not quite Chicago I would say... You are right of course that it was voluntary and that made Ron Paul the favorite of those that were determined to vote him in (Seems that the younger generation has more perseverance).

Of course, you realize that this has no real bearing on who or how the actual election happens... Seems that the favorite of CPAC has a minimal chance of election if you go by past history.


42 posted on 02/21/2010 12:09:38 AM PST by Deagle
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To: fwdude

Wow...what a pessimist!


43 posted on 02/21/2010 12:10:58 AM PST by Deagle
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To: TruthHound

lol. excellent visual and fitting considering you point.


44 posted on 02/21/2010 12:12:04 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Deagle

When underhanded tactics are used, such as disrupting Central Committee Meetings to embarrass leadership over trivial matters, I disagree with it.

When they discuss and announce how to infiltrate the party, act like a Republican and use the party resources, while ensuring they give nothing back to the party, I disagree with it.

When they demand one of their candidates be supported by the party, yet openly oppose other party candidates, I disagree with it.

That is neither “Democracy” nor “representation by the Republic.”


45 posted on 02/21/2010 12:16:24 AM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: DakotaRed

Well, that happens all the time - Democrats infiltrating the Republican convention, and all aspect of them. What you are angry about (and me also) is that the immoral aspects of the parties. while I can understand your anger with their actions, it is not illegal (just immoral) and it is a part of our Democracy. Really, if they can dissuade us from our platform or beliefs, we or the Republicans should not be there anyway.

It really does get down to beliefs - if any of their tactics prevail, we are lost anyway - aren’t we?


46 posted on 02/21/2010 12:21:41 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Do you want to just withdraw from fighting terrorists and allow them here before fighting them again, when we will have no allies?

Do you want to follow the folly of “audit and end the fed” with no regard for why it was created, which will hand manipulation of the economy back to the majority party?

Or, do you not realize it is already audited independently every year?

As far as “the immorality of the party’s,” you do not cure immorality by acting immorally.

How you claim the party’s are immoral, then justify their actions as not illegal, just immoral befuddles me.

Are we lost anyways? No. There are many true conservatives fighting the RINO’s, the Paulies, the Gay Agenda, you name it.

Somehow, I also get the feeling you support their takeover more than you let on.


47 posted on 02/21/2010 12:41:13 AM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: DakotaRed

Heh...no, I disagree with all of his national security ideas. I do agree with some of his economic ideas though and wish that the next President would eliminate many Federal government offices along with their budgets. I also think that the Fed need some control... I guess that makes me a Ron Paul kook...heh.

Look, he is crazy in some areas, but would love to see him get into office and pass a flat tax, eliminate overseas bribery, eliminate about 10 offices of government (ED, HUD, Energy, NPR, Art Subsidies, etc.). He does have some good ideas... I would just love to see the Democrats faces when this was proposed!


48 posted on 02/21/2010 12:51:45 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Oh, and if you really think that the Fed is audited, you need to get more information...


49 posted on 02/21/2010 12:54:57 AM PST by Deagle
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To: DakotaRed

You brought up so many issues that I could not begin to address them all in one post...

Parties immoral? You better believe it - both parties are immoral to the max. Both only want to win re-election, give a damn about the country, much less the people. You are blind to reality if you do not see that we do NOT have statesmen today, only those that want to get re-elected. It is all about money and power!

I look at both parties and see only one or two that seem to give a damn about the direction of the country. Even they will NOT bring up the coming economic catastrophe that is heading our way and actually push for a resolution. So, yes, both parties are not only immoral, but absolutely selfish and give-a-damn about the direction the country is heading. That is what I am pessimistic about!


50 posted on 02/21/2010 1:05:57 AM PST by Deagle
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