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Meir Dagan: the mastermind behind Mossad's secret war
The Telegraph ^ | 2/21/2010 | Uzi Mahnaimi

Posted on 02/20/2010 10:29:49 PM PST by bruinbirdman

IN early January two black Audi A6 limousines drove up to the main gate of a building on a small hill in the northern suburbs of Tel Aviv: the headquarters of Mossad, the Israeli secret intelligence agency, known as the “midrasha”.

Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, stepped out of his car and was greeted by Meir Dagan, the 64-year-old head of the agency. Dagan, who has walked with a stick since he was injured in action as a young man, led Netanyahu and a general to a briefing room.


Mossad spy agency chief Meir Dagan

According to sources with knowledge of Mossad, inside the briefing room were some members of a hit squad. As the man who gives final authorisation for such operations, Netanyahu was briefed on plans to kill Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, a member of Hamas, the militant Islamic group that controls Gaza.

Mossad had received intelligence that Mabhouh was planning a trip to Dubai and they were preparing an operation to assassinate him there, off-guard in a luxury hotel. The team had already rehearsed, using a hotel in Tel Aviv as a training ground without alerting its owners.

The mission was not regarded as unduly complicated or risky, and Netanyahu gave his authorisation, in effect signing Mabhouh’s death warrant.

Typically on such occasions, the prime minister intones: “The people of Israel trust you. Good luck.”

Days later on January 19, Emirates flight EK912 took off from the Syrian capital Damascus at 10.05am. On board, as Mossad had anticipated, was Mabhouh, who was also known by the nom de guerre of Abu al-Abd. The Israelis suspected he planned to travel from Dubai to the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas to arrange for an arms shipment to Gaza.

As the Airbus A330 rose into the

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To: rmlew

Do a google search. 295,000 hits or something. They are Christian haters too.


51 posted on 02/23/2010 11:49:54 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: hoosiermama
hoosiermama, do you normally read and quote Holocaust denying lunatics? Have you read this site?

As for the rant, how many lies can I find without doing research. The most glaring is the claim that Benjamin Netanyahu is the son of Ze’ev Jabotinsky. Ze'ev Jabotisnky died in 1940. Netanyahu was born after 1948. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the Democrat congressman for the 5th District of Illinois in Chicago is the son of an Israeli terrorist. Rahm’s father, Benjamin, was a member of the Irgun, the Zionist terrorist organization that coined a new word as they blew up hotels, train stations, and other buildings in Palestine in the 1930s and 40s.
The Irgun Zvai Leumi blew up part of one hotel, the King David not to attack civilians, but because it was British headquarters of the occupation.

Rahm was an Israeli citizen until he was 18 years old, when for obvious reasons he hid his Israeli passport in his underwear drawer. In 1991, however, he pulled his Israeli passport out and went and reportedly joined the Israeli Army to defend Zion from Saddam’s Scuds.
Not at all. His work comprised of helping civilians injured and families displaced. And he did it as political cover for later pursuing the anti-Israel policies of the New Israel Fund, of which he was a member.

Irgun, the army of his father, is short for Irgun Zvai Leumi, which supposedly means something like “National Military Organization” in Hebrew.
They is exactly what it means.

. They killed innocent Palestinians and British soldiers and blew up buildings.
I guess the patriots killed innocent indians and redcoats in the 1770s.

After 1948 they became part of the new Israeli government and did the same thing.
That's odd since the Hagganah, fired on the Irgun. Look up the Altalena incident. No revisionist Zionist was part of the Israeli government, except as a minority member of Parliament, until the national unity government in 1967. The left dominated Israel until the Likud came to power in the late 1970s.

The Irgun even has a website with pictures of the buildings they blew up before they demolished the World Trade Center with Thermite and high explosives: www.etzel.org.il
The defunct Irgun blew up the World Trade center. Have you read this?

Irgun was founded by Ze’ev Jabotinsky and the relationship with Jabotinsky’s Revisionist Zionism made it the predecessor to Israel’s right-wing Herut and Likud parties.
The Irgun and Lehi were revionist groups. And yes they were the founders of Herut, and the 3 largest parties in Israel today.

52 posted on 02/23/2010 11:50:36 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: rmlew

Just putting it out there for discussion. Thanks for your input.


53 posted on 02/24/2010 3:19:28 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Frantzie

“I do not read the links on Google - cannot be bothered.”

THAT YOU POSTED AND CLAIM AS YOUR SOURCE

” Odd how Rahm Mossad has 259,000 hits and Axelrod Mossad has 80,000+.”

Yeah, and all from left wing, nazi and jihadi loving sites copying the same crap over and over, JUST AS YOU QUOTED THEM.

YOU SIR, ARE A FREAKING IDIOT OR A PLANT FROM THE LEFT.


54 posted on 02/24/2010 5:48:57 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: hoosiermama

“Just putting it out there for discussion. Thanks for your input”

Yeah, you “put it out there” from web sites that

deny the holocaust
deny NASA landed on the moon
deny the muslims attacked us on 9/11.

You’re as dumb and dangerous as Frantzie. No one should take seriously ANYTHING that you two post.


55 posted on 02/24/2010 5:51:45 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda; onyx
You don't seem to understand that by posting comments (as you did) without backing the material up with information you open up a can of worms....I posted the link and material because it stated the same thing you posted without support.....just to open that can of worms. (I've been waiting for your response..Glad you got back...Did I make my point?)

As I said before. Posted material for discussion. Don't call names. It loses it's value. You MUST support a statement. This technique is missing from many people's education, but is necessary for a free nation to continue to exist. Our school only teach what to think today not how to think....Certainly not your fault.

Just because a person reads Marx, doesn't make them a communist....Know your enemy and what they are saying. The only way to win a debate is by presenting your point THEN stating and countering “their” points.

I knew the material and it's source (and don't agree with it)....But since you only want to call names and not present facts or sources, no point in a debate can be made....So both Onyx (On FR we always ping a person if their name is mentioned) and I googled a statement you made. She just gave the google links, I quoted an entire article. Obviously you have never been on a debate team. (My team won the national championship)

Now, just to be the devils advocate....List sources for each of your statements to me.....(I'm certain they are out there...I'm sure you're aware that some people take the truth and spin it into non-truths)

“You're dumb” I have a 140+ IQ ... What's yours?

Dangerous...Not as dangerous as a person who makes a statement and can't support it with information. A person who reacts and does not think about and choose their actions is dangerous.

“Serious” By your name calling, no one takes anything you say seriously. The technique is one used by people who are unschooled or young in their thought process.(It's also a technique used by the Obama administration called Axelturfing)

I think more of you than that.....Use your God given brain. Make your points with facts and resources, not by accusations. Do you need help using a search engine? Am not being condescending just willing to help.

State what you believe, then follow with a source or quote that backs it up. Continue the process again and again until you've made your point and negated your opponents'.

56 posted on 02/24/2010 7:47:13 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Yehuda

LOL! Here is a new Google search: “Soros Mossad”

359,000 hits - wow!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=soros+mossad&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Maxwell was too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell

Shortly before Maxwell’s death, a former Mossad officer named Ari Ben-Menashe had approached a number of news organizations in Britain and the United States with the allegation that Maxwell and the Daily Mirror’s foreign editor, Nick Davies, were both long time agents for the Israel intelligence service, Mossad. Ben-Menashe also claimed that in 1986 Maxwell had tipped off the Israeli Embassy in London that Mordechai Vanunu had given information about Israel’s nuclear capability to the Sunday Times, then to the Daily Mirror, (Vanunu was subsequently lured from London, where the Sunday Times had him in hiding, to Rome, whence he was kidnapped and returned to Israel, convicted of treason, and imprisoned for 18 years.)

No news organization would publish Ben-Menashe’s story at first, because of Maxwell’s famed litigiousness (through lawyers Maislish & Co.), but eventually New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh repeated some of the allegations during a press conference in London held to publicize The Samson Option, Hersh’s book about Israel’s nuclear weapons. On 21 October 1991, two Members of Parliament, Labour MP George Galloway and Conservative MP Rupert Allason (who writes books on the world of espionage under the pseudonym Nigel West) agreed to raise the issue in the House of Commons (with the protection of Parliamentary Privilege which allows MPs to ask questions in Parliament without risk of being sued for defamation), which in turn meant that British newspapers were able to report what had been said without fear of being sued for libel. Nevertheless, writs were swiftly issued by Mirror Group Solicitors on instruction from Maxwell, who called the claims “ludicrous, a total invention”. Maxwell then sacked Nick Davies.[13


57 posted on 02/24/2010 8:26:08 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Yehuda

You are a wack job. The Saudis sue anyone who says anything bad about Islam, the Saudis or Mohammed. You are a kook like them. Say anything about Israel or the Mossad and you become a truther, holocaust denier and also a moon landing denier (??).

I like Bibi. He was embraced in the USA more by Christians and churches than most synagogues on his tour of the USA. I know a local church that invited him a few years ago during his wilderness years out of office. They had a huge turnout.

I just do not like the Mossad agents - Soros, Rahm and Axelrod.


58 posted on 02/24/2010 8:37:39 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: hoosiermama

Quoting obviously from a crank poisons discussions. Show some intellectual honesty.


59 posted on 02/24/2010 10:41:07 AM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Frantzie
Do you want to play the google hits=veracity game for other things like the moon landing, Bush knew 9/11, anti-communists killed JFK, etc?
Your's isn not a legitimate argument. It s "Fallacy Ad Populum", the fallacy of popular (or selectively widespread) belief.
60 posted on 02/24/2010 10:45:03 AM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Frantzie
Seymore Hersh the gyu who lied about Bush?

What is wrong with you? Do logic and reason flee you when attacking Israel or do you have no standards in general?

61 posted on 02/24/2010 10:47:00 AM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Frantzie

“You are a wack job. The Saudis sue anyone who says anything bad about Islam, the Saudis or Mohammed. You are a kook like them. Say anything about Israel or the Mossad and you become a truther, holocaust denier and also a moon landing denier (??).”

You reason like a moron. YOU quoted from sites that are full of “You are a wack job. The Saudis sue anyone who says anything bad about Islam, the Saudis or Mohammed. You are a kook like them. Say anything about Israel or the Mossad and you become a truther, holocaust denier and also a moon landing denier(s (??)” and you call me some Saudi lawyer?

IT IS YOUR SOURCES.

“I like Bibi. He was embraced in the USA more by Christians and churches than most synagogues on his tour of the USA. I know a local church that invited him a few years ago during his wilderness years out of office. They had a huge turnout.”

Well you finally got something right.

“I just do not like the Mossad agents - Soros, Rahm and Axelrod.”

THOSE 3 ARE SCUM BUT YOU CAN NOT SHOW THEY ARE MOSSAD AGENTS. YOU HAVE NOT ONE STINKING LEGITIMATE SOURCE.

And by YOUR insistence on looking like an idiot, YOU dilute OUR fight against Soros, Rahm and Axelrod.

If you were smart, you would be exposing their connections to JIHADISTS AND ANTI-AMERICAN GROUPS instead of standing with the nutjob branch of AMERICA’S ENEMIES and wasting everyone’s time and making yourself and FR look stupid.


62 posted on 02/24/2010 2:05:50 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda

Hey! Go to this post and you will see me standing up for the Jews in France. I am friends with one who left. Very conservative but not orthodox.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2458569/posts

I am getting suspicious about you. You were not on that thread defending Jews. I am thinking you are really a Pallie mole and a Jew hater.


63 posted on 02/24/2010 7:08:09 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Frantzie

“Hey! Go to this post and you will see me standing up for the Jews in France. I am friends with one who left. Very conservative but not orthodox.”

Nice work.

“I am getting suspicious about you. You were not on that thread defending Jews. I am thinking you are really a Pallie mole and a Jew hater.”

You really need to learn to shut up while you’re ahead.


64 posted on 02/24/2010 11:13:06 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: rmlew

Thanks


65 posted on 02/25/2010 11:20:55 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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