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Mark Levin: I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 21, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by Sergeant Tim

I was invited to be the opening speaker at Saturday's CPAC session. I had accepted but then, to my amazement, I learned that the John Birch Society would be one of many co-sponsors. This takes the big-tent idea many steps too far for me. So, I withdrew. Apparently, others were not so moved. That's fine. But it wasn't for me. Bill Buckley and Barry Goldwater, among others, chased the Birchers from the movement decades ago. And they're not a part of the movement. So, to give them a booth at CPAC was boneheaded.

I want to commend Bill Bennett for his wise piece this morning on the Corner. I agree with him.

I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he. It's incoherent. One day it's populist, the next it's libertarian bordering on anarchy, next it's conservative but not really, etc. And to what end? I believe he has announced that he is no longer going to endorse candidates because our problems are bigger than politics. Well, of course, our problems are not easily dissected into categories, but to reject politics is to reject the manner in which we try to organize ourselves. This is as old as Plato and Aristotle. Why would conservatives choose to surrender the political battlefield to our adversaries -- who are trashing this society -- when we must retake it in order to preserve our society? Philosophy, politics, culture, family, etc., are all of one. Edmund Burke, among others, wrote about it extensively, and far better that I possibly can. But all elements of the civil society require our defense. Besides, why preach such a strategy when conservatism is on the rise and the GOP is acting more responsibly?

Moreover, when he does discuss politics, which, ironically, is often, how can he claim today that there is no difference between the two parties when, but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative thanks to the grass-roots movement and a political uprising across the country, which has even reached into New Jersey and Massachusetts. Why keep pretending otherwise? My only conclusion is that he is promoting a third party or some third way, which is counter-productive to defeating Obama and the Democrat Congress. These are perilous times and this kind of an approach will keep the statists in power for decades.

And what of his flirtations with Ron Paul's lunacy respecting America's supposed provocations with her enemies, including al-Qaeda? Why should such a fatal defect in thinking be ignored? Do we conservatives agree with this?

Finally, Beck is fond of congratulating himself for being the only or the first host to criticize George Bush's spending. This is demonstrably false. I not only attacked his spending, but the creation of the Homeland Security Department, the prescription drug add-on for Medicare, his "moderate" tax cuts, as well as his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, "comprehensive immigration reform," and so forth. And I was not alone -- Rush and Sean did the same, for example. And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me, or Beck, or Beck's past drunkenness (which he endlessly wears as some kind of badge of honor). It is about preserving our society for our children and grandchildren. Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.

On as a positive note, I am personally happy to see that Beck has cleaned up his public act -- as best I can tell, no more boiling fake frogs on TV or pretending to pour gasoline on someone -- and the rest of it. But I do think his speech, which contained nuggets of truth heard before and read elsewhere, including on Rush's show and in my book and many other books, may have distracted from some of the more compelling and coherent speeches at the event, including Marco Rubio's superb speech. I fear the media will see to this. I hope not.


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To: Elsie

he SINGLEhandedly put ScottBrown into the Senate!!
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No he didnt...

He had one hand tied behind his back and the other sweeping through his loverly mane err hair...


1,151 posted on 02/22/2010 11:55:18 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw

i’m concerned about how many will join the LDS once he starts mixing his theology into his political statements.


1,152 posted on 02/22/2010 11:59:56 AM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie

Riiiigggghtttt


1,153 posted on 02/22/2010 12:00:43 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: autumnraine

You do realize that by not voting with the Democrats on any of the programs quoted in your post (originally from Mark Levin’s) that the Republicans DID keep those programs from getting passed?

Not voting is an active way to keep programs from passing - and therefore, success can be attributed to the Pubbies.


1,154 posted on 02/22/2010 12:02:41 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (RIP Tony Snow. - praying for his family and friends.)
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To: TruthNtegrity

They might not have voted with them, but it had nothing to do with it passing or not.


1,155 posted on 02/22/2010 12:03:46 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: holdonnow

The tone of the BeckBots seems more like
Don’t confuse me with the facts.

Thanks Mark for all you do.

SoCalPol


1,156 posted on 02/22/2010 12:08:41 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: driftless2

No, I don’t have time for “belonging” to things.


1,157 posted on 02/22/2010 12:12:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: svcw

Freedom of religion works both ways.

Not apparently if you are lds.

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As evidenced by Brigham Young.


1,158 posted on 02/22/2010 12:17:05 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Tennessee Nana

LOL.


1,159 posted on 02/22/2010 12:18:19 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw

Or prescription drugs. The WoW allows for that but not alcohol.


1,160 posted on 02/22/2010 12:20:06 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie

ROFL. I like that.


1,161 posted on 02/22/2010 12:23:00 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: bvw; Sergeant Tim
"And as a Birther — one who holds that Obama does not office legitimately — I am insulted that Beck calls us loons and does not honestly represent our main arguments."

Beck has insulted many of us on that issue! He claims to care about the Constitution. Well, Mr. Beck, what about Article II, Section 1, Clause 5? Does that matter Mr. Beck?

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born).
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!


http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative. That is how a foreign born baby could get a HI BC on record, which in turn generates the "birth announcements" in the newspapers.

Raise the question Mr. Beck!

1,162 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:28 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Sergeant Tim

According to something that writer33 posted elsewhere, this is apparently just sour grapes because Beck and O’Reilly prevented the “Great One” from coming over to FNC.


1,163 posted on 02/22/2010 2:05:13 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: Raider Sam

And how much of that do we owe to Mark Levin? Who had a bigger influence on the Tea Parties, Beck or Levin and Bennett?


1,164 posted on 02/22/2010 2:12:34 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jenk

Well at least you’ve convinced yourself... but don’t quit your day job.


1,165 posted on 02/22/2010 2:16:35 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jenk
Birchers are dumber than they are crazy; and Paulbots are crazier than they are dumb. So not so very different afterall. ;)
1,166 posted on 02/22/2010 2:17:46 PM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Pharmboy
And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me

LOL. Methinks he doth protest too much. This is all about you Mark... always has been.

1,167 posted on 02/22/2010 2:19:20 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: svcw

tttt


1,168 posted on 02/22/2010 2:21:43 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are you including Beck in the “fruits and nuts” category Jim? I think you are referring to the Birchers and the Gay Proud Republicans in which case I agree with you.


1,169 posted on 02/22/2010 2:22:01 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jenk

No difference. The Birchers are Paul’s biggest fans.


1,170 posted on 02/22/2010 2:23:12 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Call out the “so-called Republicans” by name is what we are saying.

I agree Beck should make his statements about "republicans" more precise, but when they were in power, economically as a party, they did blow it by spending too much and letting megabanks/freddie/fanny play craps with trillions. However, note that there is one major R name I am not specifying here, because uttering that name leads to endless, useless flame wars that beat a dead horse again.

I loathe Obama as much as you do, and so does Beck. Blaming republicans who are now out of power is useful only in the sense that it reminds us to hold both parties accountable.

I'll give you an example of my own blindness. In 2000, I was for McCain (pro-life, war hero, etc.) It just didn't cross my mind that a man with such a background could want to legalize 10s of millions of illegals and thereby give leftists control of all 3 branches of government forever. It became obvious that I was wrong about McCain. In fact, McCain's absence from congress to campaign was a key reason that we dodged the amnesty bullet in 2007.

Fast forward to 2008. I liked Sarah Palin immediately, but then she talked about a "path to citizenship" on Univision. John Cornyn, the anti-amnesty hero from 2007, has posted on his website multiple times that he wants Obama to push "immigration reform." Will Palin and Cornyn betray us? I hope not, but we must hold both parties accountable. We already know that Dems are evil, but we need to keep our eyes open when we support republicans.

1,171 posted on 02/22/2010 2:32:08 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: streetpreacher

With all Mark means to the movement, with all the fame and financial success he’s had and continues to enjoy, why the h*ll does he have to be so self-obsessed? They all are, to a degree. Don’t they understand that a bit of humility goes a long way?


1,172 posted on 02/22/2010 2:33:08 PM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: streetpreacher

I dont know. Im sure some were inspired by Levin and some were inspired bye Beck. I actually hope that people arent voting for someone because a radio host endorsed them.

Who dug up more issues and examined the candidates better? I dont really know. I only get to see Beck on Friday when I work out, and I only listen to Levin 2 or 3 times a week. But I do remember hearing Beck champion the Tea Parties for a long time.

I think we need both guys, which is why I get annoyed when Levin attacks Beck (or other “backbenchers”). Ive never heard Beck go after Levin.


1,173 posted on 02/22/2010 2:34:28 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: streetpreacher
And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans.

Beck was 10 years old in 1976.

1,174 posted on 02/22/2010 2:35:51 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: svcw

tttt


1,175 posted on 02/22/2010 2:43:00 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Beck was 10 years old in 1976.

and when he got older, what did he do?

1,176 posted on 02/22/2010 2:51:19 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: tiredoflaundry
RE: na huh, he supported Fred Thompson.

For the fourth time on this thread. See #52.

1,177 posted on 02/22/2010 2:58:49 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: SoCalPol

What’s the end game to your crusade against the BeckBots?


1,178 posted on 02/22/2010 3:09:48 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: sloop
and when he got older, what did he do?

Tea parties, for one thing

1,179 posted on 02/22/2010 3:14:02 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
oh - levin was doing more than stomping his feet - he was running landmark legal and working in the reagan admin in the justice department - and working to get conservatives elected
1,180 posted on 02/22/2010 3:17:33 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: sloop
oh - levin was doing more than stomping his feet - he was running landmark legal and working in the reagan admin in the justice department - and working to get conservatives elected

OK, Levin was doing more for conservatism when Beck was not 18 yet. Got it.

Step back and look at what is happening today. MSNBC etc. hate both Levin and Beck, and with good reason.

1,181 posted on 02/22/2010 3:26:23 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: presently no screen name

God bless you, you are my parents.


1,182 posted on 02/22/2010 3:27:30 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Glenn Beck - great

Mark Levin - good

That's my vote!

1,183 posted on 02/22/2010 3:31:01 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
levin has lived his entire life advancing conservative principles

beck decries everyone as the foe - levin criticizes republicans, but he does not draw a moral equivalence between democrats and republicans - he works within the republican party to change it - and encourages others to do the same

1,184 posted on 02/22/2010 3:32:05 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: svcw

place marker


1,185 posted on 02/22/2010 3:33:18 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Indy Pendance

OK, you can borrow the car tonight ‘till 10. ;)
ENJOY!


1,186 posted on 02/22/2010 4:08:03 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: sloop
he works within the republican party to change it - and encourages others to do the same

That is a good thing. But why is he attacking the person who has done more than anyone else to educate the public about Obama? If you are worried about conservatives doing damage to conservatism, you might want to remind Levin.

Here is one Levin comment: "Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country."

Some Republicans are helping. Brown, Collins, Snowe, and Voinovich voted for the Reid "jobs" bill, when the Dems have hundreds of billions of unspent Porkulus money.

1,187 posted on 02/22/2010 4:12:14 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: sloop

I value your mind, so I hope you can understand that I think this dumas will not understand. Maybe leaving them to their future to become embarrassed at what they now say is the best tack.


1,188 posted on 02/22/2010 4:18:24 PM PST by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: jenk

HOW old are you, have you even left school yet?

you said

bite me you can love your fellow man.
exactly what kind of loving are you meaning here?

bite me , good grief, what a complete absurd immature comment to make .

fact is homosexuals are all about a sick way of sex, it gets them off by shoving their penis’s up another mans ass or a woman wearing a strap on pretending to be a man while having sex with another woman.
Now they obviously need to seek mental help and to think that they want the normal folk of this country to accept that and have it taught in to schools, .

We already have one perverts by the name of Jennings telling children how to stick a fist up another mans ass, do you find that revolting or are you going to say bite me again?

After reading your past comments it seems you have come onto this site mistakenly.


1,189 posted on 02/22/2010 4:19:11 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
But why is he attacking the person who has done more than anyone else to educate the public about Obama?

because beck attacks me as well as obama

so who knew there were rinos in the republican party - guess we should let the democratz pass obamacare and crap and trade

1,190 posted on 02/22/2010 4:23:23 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: little jeremiah

I’ve just gone through their past comments and WOW.

bite me, I’m not wrong etc.

says she is a mother of two and at first I thought I was replying to a 16 year old with that kind of past comments.

seems a little obsessed with homo bashing too just like the homosexuals and the loony left are.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if their ios folks who do not want Govt in any say in any kind of marriage then they need to join the liberterian party not a conservative movement.

here’s us trying to get the message out about how we want conservative values and then we have bite me mother saying it is the GOP who needs to change to be more liberal.

ASTOUNDING

or is it, should I say it, Megyn McCain has logged on under different usernames

EEK

Well forget it McCAIN you need to leave the politics now and let us carry on with a conservative message


1,191 posted on 02/22/2010 4:29:29 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: whatisthetruth
I got the comment of bite me she wants to love them, I kid you not. she is no conservative at all
1,192 posted on 02/22/2010 4:30:49 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc

She never answered me to tell me what “gay bashing” means.

I haven’t been checking the thread since then.... a bit busy the last couple of days.

Obviously a troll. FR is thick with pro-homosexual people; trolls whether they are new signups, old signups with few comments, or ones who’ve been here a long time active.

The homosexual agenda is ALL about Big Government, because it’s all about laws, whether through votes or judicial decision, to FORCE normal people to rent to, hire, marry, associate with, learn about, etc etc sexual perverts and perversion.

It’s ALL about Big Government. It’s Homo-Nazism.


1,193 posted on 02/22/2010 4:39:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: jenk

You never answered me; please explain what you mean by “gay bashing”.

Be descriptive, not just another slogan, please.


1,194 posted on 02/22/2010 4:40:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: sloop

oh so you’re that petty that you are taking the criticism personally? wow. Beck says the parties are equally bad. i think republicans are marginally better than Dems, and think the proper recourse is to improve the Republican party. i have not heard Beck say get rid of both parties and start over. so, i am not going to throw a fit of pique and expend energy denigrating him when it comes down to a difference in degree. But if you think your time is well spent railing against Beck that’s your perogative i suppose.


1,195 posted on 02/22/2010 4:42:06 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: little jeremiah

nail on head

I haven’t the time to go through all the thread but after seeing that reply I got I thought of looking at past posts and WOW it was telling alright

hope you had a good weekend


1,196 posted on 02/22/2010 4:43:48 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc

Heh - no one except homosexuals or their little friends uses the phrase “gay bashing”.

You mean there just was a weekend? When? ;-)


1,197 posted on 02/22/2010 4:46:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
Well....I've just got to tell you...I'm a male lesbian.

Hope you are okay with that...........

1,198 posted on 02/22/2010 4:48:21 PM PST by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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To: little jeremiah

LOL

Precisely


1,199 posted on 02/22/2010 4:54:53 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: jenk
I hope you can understand that I think this dumas

Talking bout me? Common courtesy to ping those who you criticize.

1,200 posted on 02/22/2010 4:55:42 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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