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Mark Levin: I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 21, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by Sergeant Tim

I was invited to be the opening speaker at Saturday's CPAC session. I had accepted but then, to my amazement, I learned that the John Birch Society would be one of many co-sponsors. This takes the big-tent idea many steps too far for me. So, I withdrew. Apparently, others were not so moved. That's fine. But it wasn't for me. Bill Buckley and Barry Goldwater, among others, chased the Birchers from the movement decades ago. And they're not a part of the movement. So, to give them a booth at CPAC was boneheaded.

I want to commend Bill Bennett for his wise piece this morning on the Corner. I agree with him.

I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he. It's incoherent. One day it's populist, the next it's libertarian bordering on anarchy, next it's conservative but not really, etc. And to what end? I believe he has announced that he is no longer going to endorse candidates because our problems are bigger than politics. Well, of course, our problems are not easily dissected into categories, but to reject politics is to reject the manner in which we try to organize ourselves. This is as old as Plato and Aristotle. Why would conservatives choose to surrender the political battlefield to our adversaries -- who are trashing this society -- when we must retake it in order to preserve our society? Philosophy, politics, culture, family, etc., are all of one. Edmund Burke, among others, wrote about it extensively, and far better that I possibly can. But all elements of the civil society require our defense. Besides, why preach such a strategy when conservatism is on the rise and the GOP is acting more responsibly?

Moreover, when he does discuss politics, which, ironically, is often, how can he claim today that there is no difference between the two parties when, but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative thanks to the grass-roots movement and a political uprising across the country, which has even reached into New Jersey and Massachusetts. Why keep pretending otherwise? My only conclusion is that he is promoting a third party or some third way, which is counter-productive to defeating Obama and the Democrat Congress. These are perilous times and this kind of an approach will keep the statists in power for decades.

And what of his flirtations with Ron Paul's lunacy respecting America's supposed provocations with her enemies, including al-Qaeda? Why should such a fatal defect in thinking be ignored? Do we conservatives agree with this?

Finally, Beck is fond of congratulating himself for being the only or the first host to criticize George Bush's spending. This is demonstrably false. I not only attacked his spending, but the creation of the Homeland Security Department, the prescription drug add-on for Medicare, his "moderate" tax cuts, as well as his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, "comprehensive immigration reform," and so forth. And I was not alone -- Rush and Sean did the same, for example. And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me, or Beck, or Beck's past drunkenness (which he endlessly wears as some kind of badge of honor). It is about preserving our society for our children and grandchildren. Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.

On as a positive note, I am personally happy to see that Beck has cleaned up his public act -- as best I can tell, no more boiling fake frogs on TV or pretending to pour gasoline on someone -- and the rest of it. But I do think his speech, which contained nuggets of truth heard before and read elsewhere, including on Rush's show and in my book and many other books, may have distracted from some of the more compelling and coherent speeches at the event, including Marco Rubio's superb speech. I fear the media will see to this. I hope not.


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To: Elsie

ROFL. I like that.


1,161 posted on 02/22/2010 12:23:00 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: bvw; Sergeant Tim
"And as a Birther — one who holds that Obama does not office legitimately — I am insulted that Beck calls us loons and does not honestly represent our main arguments."

Beck has insulted many of us on that issue! He claims to care about the Constitution. Well, Mr. Beck, what about Article II, Section 1, Clause 5? Does that matter Mr. Beck?

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born).
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!


http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative. That is how a foreign born baby could get a HI BC on record, which in turn generates the "birth announcements" in the newspapers.

Raise the question Mr. Beck!

1,162 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:28 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Sergeant Tim

According to something that writer33 posted elsewhere, this is apparently just sour grapes because Beck and O’Reilly prevented the “Great One” from coming over to FNC.


1,163 posted on 02/22/2010 2:05:13 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: Raider Sam

And how much of that do we owe to Mark Levin? Who had a bigger influence on the Tea Parties, Beck or Levin and Bennett?


1,164 posted on 02/22/2010 2:12:34 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jenk

Well at least you’ve convinced yourself... but don’t quit your day job.


1,165 posted on 02/22/2010 2:16:35 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jenk
Birchers are dumber than they are crazy; and Paulbots are crazier than they are dumb. So not so very different afterall. ;)
1,166 posted on 02/22/2010 2:17:46 PM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Pharmboy
And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me

LOL. Methinks he doth protest too much. This is all about you Mark... always has been.

1,167 posted on 02/22/2010 2:19:20 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: svcw

tttt


1,168 posted on 02/22/2010 2:21:43 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are you including Beck in the “fruits and nuts” category Jim? I think you are referring to the Birchers and the Gay Proud Republicans in which case I agree with you.


1,169 posted on 02/22/2010 2:22:01 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: jenk

No difference. The Birchers are Paul’s biggest fans.


1,170 posted on 02/22/2010 2:23:12 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Call out the “so-called Republicans” by name is what we are saying.

I agree Beck should make his statements about "republicans" more precise, but when they were in power, economically as a party, they did blow it by spending too much and letting megabanks/freddie/fanny play craps with trillions. However, note that there is one major R name I am not specifying here, because uttering that name leads to endless, useless flame wars that beat a dead horse again.

I loathe Obama as much as you do, and so does Beck. Blaming republicans who are now out of power is useful only in the sense that it reminds us to hold both parties accountable.

I'll give you an example of my own blindness. In 2000, I was for McCain (pro-life, war hero, etc.) It just didn't cross my mind that a man with such a background could want to legalize 10s of millions of illegals and thereby give leftists control of all 3 branches of government forever. It became obvious that I was wrong about McCain. In fact, McCain's absence from congress to campaign was a key reason that we dodged the amnesty bullet in 2007.

Fast forward to 2008. I liked Sarah Palin immediately, but then she talked about a "path to citizenship" on Univision. John Cornyn, the anti-amnesty hero from 2007, has posted on his website multiple times that he wants Obama to push "immigration reform." Will Palin and Cornyn betray us? I hope not, but we must hold both parties accountable. We already know that Dems are evil, but we need to keep our eyes open when we support republicans.

1,171 posted on 02/22/2010 2:32:08 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: streetpreacher

With all Mark means to the movement, with all the fame and financial success he’s had and continues to enjoy, why the h*ll does he have to be so self-obsessed? They all are, to a degree. Don’t they understand that a bit of humility goes a long way?


1,172 posted on 02/22/2010 2:33:08 PM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: streetpreacher

I dont know. Im sure some were inspired by Levin and some were inspired bye Beck. I actually hope that people arent voting for someone because a radio host endorsed them.

Who dug up more issues and examined the candidates better? I dont really know. I only get to see Beck on Friday when I work out, and I only listen to Levin 2 or 3 times a week. But I do remember hearing Beck champion the Tea Parties for a long time.

I think we need both guys, which is why I get annoyed when Levin attacks Beck (or other “backbenchers”). Ive never heard Beck go after Levin.


1,173 posted on 02/22/2010 2:34:28 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: streetpreacher
And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans.

Beck was 10 years old in 1976.

1,174 posted on 02/22/2010 2:35:51 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: svcw

tttt


1,175 posted on 02/22/2010 2:43:00 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Beck was 10 years old in 1976.

and when he got older, what did he do?

1,176 posted on 02/22/2010 2:51:19 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: tiredoflaundry
RE: na huh, he supported Fred Thompson.

For the fourth time on this thread. See #52.

1,177 posted on 02/22/2010 2:58:49 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: SoCalPol

What’s the end game to your crusade against the BeckBots?


1,178 posted on 02/22/2010 3:09:48 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: sloop
and when he got older, what did he do?

Tea parties, for one thing

1,179 posted on 02/22/2010 3:14:02 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
oh - levin was doing more than stomping his feet - he was running landmark legal and working in the reagan admin in the justice department - and working to get conservatives elected
1,180 posted on 02/22/2010 3:17:33 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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