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Protection Against 2009 H1N1 To Be Included in 2010-2011 Seasonal Flu Vaccine
Flu.gov ^ | February 22, 2010

Posted on 02/24/2010 6:59:10 AM PST by metmom

A key U.S. Food and Drug Administration Advisory Committee recommended today that protection against the 2009 H1N1 virus, which was first identified last April, be included in the 2010-2011 seasonal influenza vaccine starting this fall. That means that, barring some unforeseen circumstance, this fall, most Americans will be able to return to the traditional routine of having one flu vaccine to protect them against the major circulating flu viruses. As is always the case with seasonal vaccine, younger children who have never had a seasonal vaccine will still need two doses.

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Now they're trying to force the H1N1 vaccine on people by combining it with the regular flu shot.
1 posted on 02/24/2010 6:59:10 AM PST by metmom
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To: metmom

Since our scare tactics didn’t work...now we will just add it to what we know you will take.

Unbelievable.


2 posted on 02/24/2010 7:00:20 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: metmom
Oh, ok - so no flu shot at all this year...

How Barry-like. "You don't want to volunteer? OK, we make it mandatory"

3 posted on 02/24/2010 7:01:27 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: icwhatudo

Exactly. You put it better than I did.

Don’t forget the *We have lots left over and too much money invested in it to throw it away, so this way we can still get our $$$’s for it* Whew.....


4 posted on 02/24/2010 7:01:49 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neverdem; DvdMom; Smokin' Joe; Politicalmom

ping


5 posted on 02/24/2010 7:02:28 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: icwhatudo

I always get the flu shot. There’s no way in hell I’m getting it this year. There are going to be a lot more people getting the regular flu because they are not going to get the flu shot.


6 posted on 02/24/2010 7:02:30 AM PST by Siouxz
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To: metmom

Folks, it’s a vaccine not a mind control device. If you don’t want it don’t get it.


7 posted on 02/24/2010 7:03:18 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: MikeWUSAF

What’s wrong with being able to choose one or both? Why shove both down peoples’ throats?


8 posted on 02/24/2010 7:04:06 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: metmom

Let’s not all jump through our asses here. Flu shots are a good thing. Forget all the hysteria.


9 posted on 02/24/2010 7:05:05 AM PST by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: metmom

"modern medicine is evil!!!"
10 posted on 02/24/2010 7:05:05 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: mewzilla

Economics and efficiency of delivery. If you don’t want it, don’t get it.


11 posted on 02/24/2010 7:05:43 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: Siouxz; pandoraou812; TigersEye; little jeremiah

Same here. I’ll take my chances.

Funny thing is, my allergist, who I have a great deal of respect for and is very knowledgeable and HONEST, says that anyone over the age of 50 has already had the swine flu two or three times and should not have anything to worry about from catching it.

He also has told me that vaccines are only partially effective many times and there is always a number of people for whom the vaccine doesn’t take anyway.


12 posted on 02/24/2010 7:05:46 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mewzilla

Never gotten a flu shot and doesn’t look like I’ll be getting one any time soon....


13 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:08 AM PST by birddog (http://www.nohr669.com/)
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To: MindBender26

I know folks whose docs told them they weren’t candidates for the bird flu vaccine? Wonder what those patients are supposed to do?


14 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:14 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: mewzilla

“most Americans will be able to return to the traditional routine of having one flu vaccine to protect them against the major circulating flu viruses”


15 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:15 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: icwhatudo

H1N1 - the epidemic that wasn’t.

The common flu claimed a LOT more victims than may have attributed to H1N1, and besides, there seems to be some sort of residual immunity among older members of the population, the result of earlier bouts with a similar strain.

If you are going to spring germ warfare on the world, at least get a more virulent strain.


16 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:34 AM PST by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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To: MindBender26; MikeWUSAF

It’s not whether they’re a good thing or not. It’s the choice aspect of it.


17 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:56 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ari-freedom

If you think so, that’s your right.

I want a choice in my health care.


18 posted on 02/24/2010 7:07:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: birddog

I’ve been hospitalized with complications from the flu. I get the seasonal shot. But I want a say in what I’m shot up with or I won’t get it.


19 posted on 02/24/2010 7:07:43 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: ari-freedom
“most Americans will be able to return to the traditional routine of having one flu vaccine to protect them against the major circulating flu viruses”

If the single vaccines are available...

20 posted on 02/24/2010 7:08:42 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: mewzilla

There’s no single vaccine for each and every other flu virus in the flu vaccine. Why should it be any different for h1n1?


21 posted on 02/24/2010 7:12:38 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: metmom

Whatever happened to the Bird Flu?

How many times can you cry “wolf” before no one listens?


22 posted on 02/24/2010 7:15:58 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: ari-freedom
The problem is that unless capacity is being increased, combined seasonal and H1N1 shots will mean fewer seasonal shots produced.

I know the seasonal flu shots are a cocktail of seasonal strains. The time I was hospitalized with complications was from a strain they didn't include in the vaccine that year.

That was the sickest I've even been in my life.

That said, I still want a choice. And unless they increase capacity, sounds like choice may be rendered moot.

23 posted on 02/24/2010 7:17:38 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: metmom

Gotta get rid of those stockpiles somehow, doncha know.


24 posted on 02/24/2010 7:19:43 AM PST by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: Politicalmom

Bwahahaha!

Just read your reply down-page. Great minds think alike...


25 posted on 02/24/2010 7:21:36 AM PST by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: MindBender26

>> Forget all the hysteria <<

Hey! Why do that? Looks to me as if you’re a grouchy old spoil-sport. Don’t you know how much fun it is to be hysterical and to bash vaccines?


26 posted on 02/24/2010 7:22:20 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: metmom

They couldn’t get ya with fear, now they will make it so you cannot get away from it if you want a seasonal shot.

Whats up for next year? The giraffe flu?


27 posted on 02/24/2010 7:24:33 AM PST by dforest
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To: Hawthorn

FWIW, I’m concerned about a lack of choice.


28 posted on 02/24/2010 7:25:36 AM PST by mewzilla (I'm not a socialist. Heck, yes, I hope Barry fails. Sheesh.)
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To: MikeWUSAF
Folks, it’s a vaccine not a mind control device. If you don’t want it don’t get it.

Gut feeling....There's something creepy about this vaccine. It's only recommended for those of breeding age (the elderly and the very young were not considered targets of this new disease).
Obomas science czar said he had no problem with putting "necessary" pharmaceuticals in the food or drinking water to control the population.
Maybe it's just a coincidence, but.......

29 posted on 02/24/2010 7:34:12 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

30 posted on 02/24/2010 7:38:38 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: MikeWUSAF
LOL. Like I said, maybe just a coincidence, but I can't say I trust this administration very much. "They're not human".
Just in case, I'd never "choose" to bring my kids to the doctor to get this shot. Better safe than sorry.
31 posted on 02/24/2010 7:43:12 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Politicalmom

We sure do....


32 posted on 02/24/2010 7:48:51 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Hawthorn

Who’s bashing vaccines?

Honestly, I’ve never met a more paranoid group than those who read that someone objects to having their choice in their healthcare decisions taken away as *bashing* vaccines.

You need to do some work on your reading comprehension.


33 posted on 02/24/2010 7:50:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mewzilla

I would think this only makes it more economical.


34 posted on 02/24/2010 7:51:34 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: concerned about politics

It has nothing to do with the ‘administration.’ Just listen to your doctor. You’re going to reject everything approved by the FDA for the next few years just because a democrat is in charge? Come on.


35 posted on 02/24/2010 7:57:51 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: ari-freedom; mewzilla; Politicalmom; MamaTexan; Paleo Conservative; ConservaTexan; CindyDawg; ...
I would think this only makes it more economical.

Sure does. What else are the vaccine manufacturers going to do with a vaccine that nobody wanted and they couldn't scare people into getting for a flu that fizzled?

They have to get their money back somehow.

36 posted on 02/24/2010 8:00:14 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I had reservations about the H1N1 vaccine when it was rushed to market last year.

However, this move seems reasonable. Every year, medical researchers study world trends and try to predict which flu strain will develop and pose a danger to us, then uses that data to formulate the annual vaccine.

H1N1 is a known threat, and the vaccine has been out long enough to prove itself. It is simply prudent to include it in the annual shot. Let the pros do their job.

In our current political climate, it’s easy (and even reasonable) to be skeptical of most things. However, when skepticism morphs into cynicism, you can fail to do what’s in your own best interest.


37 posted on 02/24/2010 8:01:00 AM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: metmom

I’ve (and I admit I read about pandemic stuff rather obsessively on other forum/s) that regular flu vaccines are not that effective, often off target since the viruses change so quickly.

But I am sure your allergist is wrong about the over 50 not getting it. This swine flu is novel and has not been in humans before. Some of the genetics are smiliar to the 1918 flu but most of use weren’t around then, and any antibodies would only be in people who actually had the flu then.

I’ve most likely had swine flu twice so far. People can catch it twice and also after the vax. And now the virus has changed a lot since the vax was made, picked up some new genetic stuff.

There is a new article out about reserach by Kawaoka who is a foremost flu researcher, it’s on FR yesterday. He and his colleagues found that H5N1 can indeed “mix” with other flus that are circulating and create a really bad one. People thought it couldn’t happen for various reasons but it can so that’s another potential. Not to get fixated on, but as a possiblity.

Unfortunately in Indonesia they are putting severe H5N1 and severe swine H1N1 patients in the same hospitals, same wards!

Crazy!

People can get two kinds of flu at once, that’s when the mishcief starts.


38 posted on 02/24/2010 8:07:46 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: metmom

I’m not sure this a ploy to force people to get H1N1. I see this as a quiet admission that H1N1 wasn’t the scare they wanted it to be and just rolling it in with the various other varieties of flu. Basically downgrading H1N1 to common seasonal flu.


39 posted on 02/24/2010 8:08:55 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: metmom
nobody wanted? I guess you didn't see the lines for it

40 posted on 02/24/2010 8:09:28 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: metmom

Remember, initially H1N1 vaccine was scarce. Does this mean there is now a glut of H1N1 vaccine on the market and this is a way to take care of over-stocked supplies?

Nevertheless, people should have the right to choose whether to get it or not.


41 posted on 02/24/2010 8:12:13 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Prayers for the Ft. Hood families, victims and soldiers.)
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To: ari-freedom
You’re going to reject everything approved by the FDA for the next few years just because a democrat is in charge? Come on.

No. So far, just this H1N1 thing. I just find it creepy. There's something not right here. I can't explain it logically, but I'm steering clear of this one.

42 posted on 02/24/2010 8:18:26 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: little jeremiah

There was a swine flu that went around in 1976.

This isn’t the first swine flu to go around.

His grounds for saying that I didn’t NEED to get it was that people my age have had some form of swine flu two or three times already and already have some immunity, my guess is as much as the swine flu vaccine is likely to impart.

He also tells me that any flu vaccine will help impart some partial immunity to any other vaccine simply because viruses share many similar features. He made it clear that it is not full immunity, but could help lessen the severity of what you do come down with.

FWIW, he is a big advocate for flu vaccines, just not ones that he thinks aren’t really necessary. He would recommend, however, that younger people who haven’t had some other form of swine flu get it, and if I had insisted, likely he would have given it to me.


43 posted on 02/24/2010 8:21:12 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ari-freedom; concerned about politics
You’re going to reject everything approved by the FDA for the next few years just because a democrat is in charge? Come on.

No, we can reject something that has FDA approval simply based on its track record.

44 posted on 02/24/2010 8:23:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Smokin’ Joe I pinged your flu ping list and some other freepers to a new flu article .

thanks :)


45 posted on 02/24/2010 8:25:03 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DvdMom

Thanks DvdMom


46 posted on 02/24/2010 8:26:12 AM PST by justsaynomore
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To: ari-freedom

In some places.

That proves nothing.

OK, so most people didn’t want, otherwise there wouldn’t be stockpiles of it left.


47 posted on 02/24/2010 8:27:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DvdMom

Thank you for the ping


48 posted on 02/24/2010 8:35:35 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: MikeWUSAF
You were saying ...

Folks, it’s a vaccine not a mind control device. If you don’t want it don’t get it.

LOL... ummm..., from reading here, some people are already being "mind-controlled"... :-)

Has anyone mentioned the black helicopters yet or the contrails?

49 posted on 02/24/2010 8:35:59 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: mewzilla; MikeWUSAF

We know extra-terrestrials are behind this... :-)


50 posted on 02/24/2010 8:38:36 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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