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Navy Sends Argie Warship Packing
The Sun (UK) ^ | 2/25/10 | DUNCAN LARCOMBE, DAVID WILLETTS, and STEVE HAWKES

Posted on 02/25/2010 6:04:30 PM PST by SmithL

THE Navy has intercepted an Argentine warship in our waters in the first head-to-head of the Falklands row.

Destroyer HMS York spotted the vessel up to ten miles inside the disputed "oil zone" around the South Atlantic islands.

York's crew monitored the progress of the Argie ship, a smaller corvette named ARA Drummond, before radioing her to change course.

The Drummond came within just 65 miles of the islands before complying.

She was sent packing with no further action taken.

Sources insisted her crew made an "innocent navigational blunder" and were embarrassed.

ARA Drummond ... 'navigational blunder'
ARA Drummond ... 'navigational blunder'

But the incident did nothing to calm the mounting storm over British oil exploration in the area.

A senior naval source told The Sun: "The crew of HMS York were pleased they had done their job properly.

"However, this couldn't have come at a more sensitive time for both governments.

It is possible the Argentine crew did make a mistake - but some people will question that."

Submarine

The MoD confirmed yesterday that York, a 5,200-ton Type 42 destroyer launched just as the Falklands War ended, would remain in the area.

And it emerged a British submarine has also been dispatched to the islands.

It is understood York spotted the Drummond sailing alongside a French fleet.

The Argie corvette then broke away and headed straight into the disputed zone.

Under international law, the 15 miles of sea surrounding the Falklands are officially British waters.

However a much wider so-called conservation zone, which crucially is where the oil exploration is going on, is considered by island residents as "their" sea too.

It is NOT illegal for Argentine ships to enter it but the Drummond's "navigational blunder" heightened tensions.

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The French-built corvette, which entered service in 1978, weighs only 1,170 tons but can pack four Exocet missiles and an array of other weapons.

But she would be no match for a destroyer in a battle.

Last night MoD officials were keen to play down the significance of the incident, insisting that radio dialogue between the two ships had been "friendly".

Meanwhile the diplomatic row deepened as Argentina took its protests over oil exploration to the UN.

Last night foreign minister Jorge Taiana said he asked Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to continue efforts to resolve the dispute.

He said the UN chief was not happy to learn the situation was worsening due to Britain letting Desire Petroleum's Ocean Guardian rig drill north of the islands.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: argentina; falklandislands; falklands; faulklands; hmsyork; oil; uk

1 posted on 02/25/2010 6:04:31 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
I hope this doesn't interfere with polo season.
2 posted on 02/25/2010 6:06:58 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: SmithL

Someone should send em a Garmin before they get a RN Harpoon in their side....


3 posted on 02/25/2010 6:08:15 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: OldDeckHand
The Drummond is a Frenchie-built dinghy. It does carry a sting, though, as it is armed with the Exocet.
4 posted on 02/25/2010 6:18:07 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SmithL
Drummond-Class Corvettes come with 4 MM 38 Exocet SSM Ship-Killers.
5 posted on 02/25/2010 6:18:11 PM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: tcrlaf

“Corvettes come with 4 MM 38 Exocet SSM Ship-Killers”

If you see it, SINK IT!


6 posted on 02/25/2010 6:21:28 PM PST by WellyP
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To: SmithL

Where are they hiding the 14.5 inch gun? I can’t believe that the gun on the front is a 14.5 inch. Maybe, but it sure looks too small.


7 posted on 02/25/2010 6:24:50 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: 11Bush
Where are they hiding the 14.5 inch gun?

That's 1 (one) 4.5 inch gun.

8 posted on 02/25/2010 6:27:53 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: SmithL; Catfish

The last time the Argentines violated British waters they lost the submarine Santa Fe (formerly USS Catfish) in Georgia and the cruiser General Belgrano (formerly USS Phoenix) in the British proclaimed “exclusion zone”.

I guess some lessons just don’t stick - especially when you are dealing with Peronistas turned communist.


9 posted on 02/25/2010 6:30:42 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (California -- Ya es como Mexico)
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To: 11Bush

That’s one 4.5” of course.


10 posted on 02/25/2010 6:34:15 PM PST by GRANGER
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To: okie01

If that was 14.5 cm it would be a 5.7” gun. May be?


11 posted on 02/25/2010 6:34:38 PM PST by WellyP
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To: SmithL

Mega-bump.


12 posted on 02/25/2010 6:45:00 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: 11Bush

14.5, 14.6, whatever it takes.


13 posted on 02/25/2010 6:48:46 PM PST by SmithL
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To: 11Bush

14.5, 14.6, whatever it takes.


14 posted on 02/25/2010 6:48:59 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Need to send some of us Texas duck hunters.... You know if it flies it dies.......


15 posted on 02/25/2010 6:51:53 PM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: OldDeckHand

They’re mostly in Palm Beach doing that right now.


16 posted on 02/25/2010 7:01:07 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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To: WellyP

‘Looks more like a 3”.


17 posted on 02/25/2010 7:23:34 PM PST by onedoug
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To: tcrlaf

I’ve been yachts a lot bigger than that tin can!


18 posted on 02/25/2010 8:16:04 PM PST by WellyP
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To: onedoug

ARA “DRUMMOND”

Displacement: n/a tons (empty); 1,170 tons (full load)
Length: n/a ft (80 m)
Beam: n/a ft (10.3 m)
Draught: n/a ft (3.55 m)
Propulsion:
2 shafts / propellers
2 SEMT Pielstick 12 PC2.2 V 400 diesel engines, 12.000 shp (8.948 kW) tot.
Max shaft horsepower: n/a shp max
Speed: 23 knots (43 km/h)
Range: 4,500 nautical miles at 16 knots (30 km/h)
Armament
4 Aerospatiale MM 38 Exocet SSM
1 4in/55 (100 mm) Creusot-Loire CADAM turret DP automatic fast-firing gun
1 twin 40 mm 70-cal. OTO Melara (Breda Bofors) AA guns
2 20 mm L/ 90 Oerlikon automatic guns
2 12.7 mm machine guns
2 triple 324 mm ILAS-3 ASW torpedo tubes (Whitehead AS-244 torpedoes, quantity n/a)
Aircraft: None
Complement: 95
Radar:
Air/Surface Search: Signaal DA08 (equipped with IFF).
Surface Search & helicopter control: Signaal ZW06.
Fire Control: Signaal STIR
Navigation: Decca TM 1226
Sonar: Thomson Sintra Diodon
Electronic Warfare:
Decoys: (no details available)
Datalink: (no details available)
Weapons Control System: Thomson-CSF System Vega, CSEE Panda MK2 director (optical), NASA director (optronic, for the 40 mm gun).
Concept/Program: French designed and built general purpose avisos (classified as “corvettes” by the Argentine navy).
Builder: n/a shipyard, Lorient, France.
Designer: n/a, France.
Design: A69 type.


19 posted on 02/25/2010 8:20:26 PM PST by WellyP
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To: colorado tanker
Fine. HMS York does carry two Vulcan Phalanx CIWS, NATO Seagnat, and DLF3 Decoy Launchers. The remainder of York's armament consistes of Twin Sea Dart Missile launchers, a 4.5 inch Mk 8 gun, and two 20mm Close range guns. The ship's Lynx helo can carry the Sea Skua AShM as well as other weapons.
20 posted on 02/25/2010 8:24:39 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

That’s fair sized ship to have no anti-ship missiles of its own. The Sea Skua has a pretty small warhead compared to the Harpoons RN frigates carry.


21 posted on 02/25/2010 9:52:28 PM PST by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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To: GATOR NAVY

That is how the Type 42 (Batch 2 and 3) DDs are outfitted. Go figure.


22 posted on 02/25/2010 9:55:27 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: GATOR NAVY
The thing is, the Type 42 DDs were designed more as air defense DDs.
23 posted on 02/25/2010 9:57:35 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: SmithL

I though the Brits neutered the Type 42’s by retiring the Sea Darts. Besides, without anti ship missiles, they have little value.


24 posted on 02/25/2010 11:15:14 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: rmlew

They still carry the Sea Dart. Aslo, the Lynx helos aboard the Type 42 can carry the Sea Skua AShM.


25 posted on 02/26/2010 6:31:54 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: 11Bush

After the shell is fired, and as it travels through the atmosphere it absorbs the available water and expands from 4.5” to 14.5”...just like them Dollar General sponges.


26 posted on 04/03/2010 11:31:20 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (Atchafalaya Basin; when you're there , thats the best)
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