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CPAC sells out? Sodomy, the ACLU, Ron Paul and the conservative movement
http://www.worldtribune.com ^ | February 26, 2010 | Cliff Kincaid for Accuracy in Media

Posted on 02/26/2010 6:50:09 AM PST by Maelstorm

Edited on 02/26/2010 10:10:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

But what many people don’t realize is that Sorba’s “outburst” was provoked by a speaker who preceded him, Alexander McCobin of Students For Liberty (SFL). McCobin went out of his way to use valuable time from the podium to thank the American Conservative Union, the main CPAC organizer, for making the controversial decision to approve GOProud’s participation.


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KEYWORDS: acu; cpac; cpac2010; gay; homosexualagenda; keene; liberalism; libertarians; norquist; sorba
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This is a good article. I think many conservative/libertarians are being played. Is is conservative or libertarian to pass legislation and policies promoting/forcing sexual liberalism to children and to the public? Is it libertarian to foist gay marriage on the citizenry without a vote or respect for the citizenry? The left has always been not just about fiscal control but of what we think. They use trumped up "civil rights" to oppress those who they disagree with and there is no better example of this than with so called "gay rights".

I'm glad this article points out that GOProud isn't a conservative group. It was founded by the Log Cabin Republicans who appear in gay pride parades displaying lewd vulgar behavior and speech in public on their floats to be almost indistinguishable from their more radical counterparts. They support the same radical agenda of oppressing those who disagree with them. They may want to keep their money but they still want to be in your face.

1 posted on 02/26/2010 6:50:09 AM PST by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

“If they are not conservative, Sorba asked, “What are they doing at CPAC?” “

OK Keene, splain it!


2 posted on 02/26/2010 6:54:21 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Maelstorm

It was good to see the article point out that the previous speaker had spent time praising CPAC for inviting the homosexual activists. That was edited out of most videos about Sorba. What was left out was the fact that the booing started before Sorba had even begun to speak. It takes guts to speak out for what you believe in and, although he seemed a little rattled, I’m proud of what Sorba did. Just as I am proud of what the Marine general did yesterday speaking out against allowing open homosexuals in the military.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 6:59:15 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Maelstorm

I’ve been to CPAC previously (though its been a while).

CPAC has never been the conservative mecca that some have billed it as. It tends to draw more blue-blood country-club-type Republicans — the type of conservative that looks down on social conservatism as dragging the movement down. The speakers are often good ... but the attendees are often Washington-insider types that are well out-of-touch with true outside-of-the-beltway conservatism.

SnakeDoc


4 posted on 02/26/2010 6:59:53 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Do you know if the hotel is pager friendly? [...] I'm not getting a sig on my beeper.)
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To: Maelstorm

Good article, but I have to take exception to one item.

>These “radical regimes,” such as the Christian-dominated government in Uganda, are trying to prevent the spread of AIDS and protect traditional moral values by toughening laws against homosexuality.

I am no fan of the gay agenda, but I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals. Which is very much in line with the Islamofascist playbook.


5 posted on 02/26/2010 7:00:24 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yeah why are they there? CPAC is supposed to be a venue for conservatism. William F. Buckley Jr. would never have bought into the crap that is GayProud.


6 posted on 02/26/2010 7:02:47 AM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Maelstorm

The words conservative and libertarian shouldn’t even be used in the same sentence, as it might give one the impression that they agree with one another on social issues.

The Cato Institute is nothing about a libertarian “stink tank”. If you’re not familiar with the official Libertarian Party Platform on “personal relationships”, here it is:

1.3 Personal Relationships

“Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.”

If you want to talk about Ron Paul and his opinion on the above subject, I have a taped interview of him with a member of the Constitution Party. It’s not pretty.


7 posted on 02/26/2010 7:06:59 AM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: Maelstorm

No he wouldn’t. RINOS rule these days.


8 posted on 02/26/2010 7:07:35 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: VictoryGal

Actually you are wrong. The Ugandan Law covers the execution of homosexuals when they have sex with minors. It isn’t a general law mandating death to homosexuals. Personally I find it refreshing that Africa is waking up as the rest of the world including America is losing its way. Homosexual activists target our children and we do nothing, our military men suffer abuse and we hear silence, everyone is seemingly afraid of this group of people who could live their lives in silence and privacy as most of us do if only they could control their need to put their sexual preference in the face of everyone and be praised for it. I don’t have any sympathy for those who in their attempt to oppress the world in to worshiping them find themselves facing an extreme backlash. Worse will come and I won’t ask and I won’t tell.


9 posted on 02/26/2010 7:10:48 AM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: aSeattleConservative

I know and I think libertarians are failing in their analysis. One does not have to be religious to understand why gay activism is dangerous and oppressive. It is a leftist tool to reshape hearts and minds with trumped up oppressions. They turn anti-bullying programs into homosexual indoctrination programs, they turn safe sex programs into indoctrination about a behavior that is the least safe sexual behavior at all, and they will do the same in corporations, the military, et. They do not intend to stop until they are not only tolerated but they are worshiped and it is pretty close to that the way it goes.


10 posted on 02/26/2010 7:15:44 AM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Maelstorm
CPAC 2010:

Homosexuals

Grover Norquist islamists

The Mitt Romney GOP

Ron Paulistas

That's not conservatism. That's a freak show.

11 posted on 02/26/2010 7:16:50 AM PST by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: VictoryGal
These “radical regimes,” such as the Christian-dominated government in Uganda, are trying to prevent the spread of AIDS and protect traditional moral values by toughening laws against homosexuality. I am no fan of the gay agenda, but I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals. Which is very much in line with the Islamofascist playbook.

The homosexual ladened United States is a fine one to preach moral values to a country like Uganda. Didn't a degenerate by the name of "Degeneres" recently get the nod for one of America's most popular television programs?

If you want to talk Scripture, there are those that disagree with you on the execution of sodomities:
Link to Scripture

12 posted on 02/26/2010 7:19:46 AM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: VictoryGal

I am no fan of the gay agenda, but I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals. Which is very much in line with the Islamofascist playbook.
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IIRC, it is execution only for those homosexuals that molest children under 18 or have AIDS and knowing spread it.


13 posted on 02/26/2010 7:21:33 AM PST by Irenic
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Fold-up that tent; CPACk it in.

CPAC is a flagrant joke.
Bring on the Tea Partiers, full-steam.

14 posted on 02/26/2010 7:22:57 AM PST by NoRedTape
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To: aSeattleConservative

As I recall, the Ugandan law calls for execution for sodomites who deliberately spread AIDS and sodomite child rape. The law doesn’t call for execution for sodomites in general.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 7:25:55 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Maelstorm

And don’t forget the personal corruption of Keene. Keene’s selling of CPAC endorsements is why Sarah Palin did not attend.


16 posted on 02/26/2010 7:34:18 AM PST by rae4palin (islam is of the devil)
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To: achilles2000
As I recall, the Ugandan law calls for execution for sodomites who deliberately spread AIDS and sodomite child rape. The law doesn’t call for execution for sodomites in general.

Thanks for the information FRiend. Being that even American homosexual leaders acknowledge that AIDS is the "gay disease"; that the CDC states that homosexuals are 50 times more likely to contract HIV than other groups, I'm thinking that homosexual sex in itself is pretty much a "deliberate" spread of AIDS. When it comes to "child rape": unless Uganda doesn't have age of consent laws, ANY homosexual sex with a child would be considered rape (at least statutory rape).

17 posted on 02/26/2010 7:56:58 AM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: achilles2000; aSeattleConservative; Irenic; VictoryGal

Actually, the bill is pretty broad. The text is below. It applies the death penalty to anyone who is gay and has sex more than once (a “serial offender”). It also has provisions to imprison anyone who rents to gay people and anyone who knows someone is gay and doesn’t turn that person in to the government. Here’s the “death penalty” section:

“3. Aggravated homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offense of aggravated homosexuality where the

(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of 18 years;

(b) offender is a person living with HIV;

(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;

(d) offender is a person in authority over the person against whom the offence is committed;

(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;

(f) offender is a serial offender, or

(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy overpower him or her so as to there by enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex,

(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable on conviction to suffer death.”


18 posted on 02/26/2010 9:10:02 AM PST by Kahonek
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To: VictoryGal
I would like to point out that Uganda’s proposed anti-homosexual law does not protect traditional moral values in any way that I or any reasonable Christian would find moral: it legislates the EXECUTION of homosexuals.

Leviticus 20:13

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

19 posted on 02/26/2010 9:23:03 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: achilles2000; Maelstorm; Irenic; aSeattleConservative

It is disingenuous to imply that the proposed Ugandan law only pertains to sex with minors or HIV infection.

The law prescribes life imprisonment for any type of gay sex, and execution for “serial offenders” of the crime of homosexuality.

It also prescribes 7 years in prison for “aiding and abetting homosexuality,” which could presumably apply to family, friends, landlords, employers, etc...

I do not understand how anyone could applaud this. I find it disgusting. Whether Uganda should give a crap what I think is a different matter.


20 posted on 02/26/2010 9:54:07 AM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

“It is disingenuous to imply...”

First, “disingenuous” means insincere or lacking in candor. You aren’t in a position to know whether the comment was disingenuous. Second, I didn’t “imply” those things; I stated them expressly. Third, my comment was based on reading some news reports, not one of the versions of the proposed legislation, the legal status of any of which at this time I don’t know.

We agree that there is no reason for Ugandans to care what we think.


21 posted on 02/26/2010 10:31:09 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Kahonek

Has the bill been passed? Are there different versions?


22 posted on 02/26/2010 10:32:18 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: TADSLOS; Maelstorm; All

“CPAC 2010:

Homosexuals

Grover Norquist islamists

The Mitt Romney GOP

Ron Paulistas

That’s not conservatism. That’s a freak show. “

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Yep...Norquist=AMNESTY

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2459870/posts?page=15#15


23 posted on 02/26/2010 10:35:41 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: Kahonek

It doesn’t seem broad to me...it seems very focused.


24 posted on 02/26/2010 11:13:40 AM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: ivyleaguebrat
The law prescribes life imprisonment for any type of gay sex, and execution for “serial offenders” of the crime of homosexuality...

Well, no...read it again.

25 posted on 02/26/2010 11:15:17 AM PST by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: achilles2000
I didn’t “imply” those things; I stated them expressly.

I disagree. You said:

As I recall, the Ugandan law calls for execution for sodomites who deliberately spread AIDS and sodomite child rape. The law doesn’t call for execution for sodomites in general.

What you said is pretty much true. However, the law does call for life imprisonment for "sodomites in general." So while EXECUTION may only be applied in the cases you specify, the law still PERTAINS to ordinary homosexual sex. You stated the former, but I thought you implied the opposite of the latter.

Maybe your comments weren't disingenuous. But some posters have made comments like yours to suggest that anyone who is is disturbed by the proposed Uganda law must be in favor of "spreading AIDS and sodomite child rape."

The law disturbs me not because it calls for executing those who intentionally spread HIV and those who have sex with minors. Those are horrible crimes that deserve severe punishment. The law disturbs me because it calls for life imprisonment for any and all homosexual activity, and 7 years imprisonment for "aiding and abetting homosexuality."

26 posted on 02/26/2010 11:59:50 AM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: gogeo

Kahonek only posted the section of the law pertaining to the death penalty. The previous section calls for life imprisonment for anyone convicted of homosexual sex.


27 posted on 02/26/2010 12:02:43 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: achilles2000

It has not yet been passed. The version I quoted is the one that was introduced.


28 posted on 02/26/2010 12:04:51 PM PST by Kahonek
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To: achilles2000
Third, my comment was based on reading some news reports

The news reports focus on the death penalty aspect for the shock value. They probably aren't doing themselves any favors by omitting facts if they're trying to stir up outrage. I find the section calling for life imprisonment for any and all homosexual sex far more outrageous than executing child abusers and those who spread HIV.

29 posted on 02/26/2010 12:07:14 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

I applauded nothing.

I commented on my recall, nothing more.

Should I assume you’re applauding homosexuality?

No, I don’t think so.

Please allow me the same courtesy, thank you.


30 posted on 02/26/2010 12:44:54 PM PST by Irenic
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To: ivyleaguebrat; achilles2000; Maelstorm; Irenic
I do not understand how anyone could applaud this [Uganda laws and punishment against homosexuality]. I find it disgusting.

Aside from the fact that you either had friends that chose the homosexual lifestyle while you were at Haaaaaavard, and/or have a beloved relative that has done the same, (why else would you defend that lifestlye?), we need to look at the subjective word "disgust" (1.to cause loathing or nausea in. 2.to offend the good taste, moral sense, etc., of; cause extreme dislike or revulsion in).

Being that God is the ultimate moral authority on all issues, let's discuss how He feels about homosexuality (to save valuable internet ink, I'll tell you that He sees it as an "abomination" (intense aversion or loathing; detestation. a vile, shameful, or detestable action, condition, habit, etc.).

Putting aside the One that gives us the ultimate truth for a minute, let's talk secular(more in your league I'm sure; as their probably weren't a lot of Christians at Haaaavard, and their definitely aren't true Christians that are practicing homosexuals).

Back to the word "disgust".

I find it absolutely "disgusting" that the disease ridden (I have statistics if you want), promiscuous (more statistics, your's for the asking), deviant (my oh my are they deviant) homosexual lifestyle has gone "mainstream" and literally "invaded" valuable American institutions such as marriage, the nuclear family, the military, organized religion, public education, and of course youth mentor groups (the thought of going on overnight campouts with 12 year old Boy Scouts under the guise of "Scout Master" must drive many a homosexual wild).

Whether Uganda should give a crap what I think is a different matter.

Let's hope that Uganda doesn't give a "crapola" what America thinks in general on this issue, as we as a nation are in no position to preach God's moral truth to anyone.

31 posted on 02/26/2010 12:54:49 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: ivyleaguebrat; achilles2000; Maelstorm; Irenic

My bad, sorry!


37 posted on 02/26/2010 1:04:51 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

You write a lot and say little.

Do you approve of a law prescribing life imprisonment for consensual, adult sex between two men or two women?


38 posted on 02/26/2010 1:42:09 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: Irenic

I made a mistake. I included everyone who was discussing the Uganda law, but that “applaud” comment wasn’t intended for you.


39 posted on 02/26/2010 1:44:43 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat

The small point first. “Imply” means to indicate by inference, association, or necessary inference. Saying that I “recall X” from a news story doesn’t involve implication. It is a direct statement of a proposition.

Now, as for the more important issue, I didn’t realize (note, I am not implying ;-) that the proposed law had a provision that gave 7 years for aiding and abetting homosexuality or that in some circumstances there are provisions for life sentences.

By the way, I was not intending to “imply” that you were in favor of sodomite child rape or spreading AIDS.


40 posted on 02/26/2010 4:12:44 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000

I guess the REAL objective of my post was to point out aspects of the proposed Uganda law the news reports might have left out or left obscure.

To that end, I’ve pasted the full text below. If people read it all and still think it’s reasonable, then that’s one thing. But I was struck by the.. incompleteness.. of some of the statements on this thread.


1.1. The principle
The object of this Bill is to establish a comprehensive consolidated legislation to protect the traditional family by prohibiting (i) any form of sexual relations between persons of the same sex; and (ii) the promotion or recognition of such sexual relations in public institutions and other places through or with the support of any Government entity in Uganda or any non governmental organization inside or outside the country.

This Bill aims at strengthening the nation’s capacity to deal with emerging internal and external threats to the traditional heterosexual family.

This legislation further recognizes the fact that same sell attraction is not an innate and immutable characteristic.

The Bill further aims at providing a comprehensive and enhanced legislation to protect the cherished culture of the people of Uganda. legal, religious, and traditional family values of the people of Uganda against the attempts of sexual rights activists seeking to impose their values of sexual promiscuity on the people of Uganda.

There is also need to protect the children and youths of Uganda who are made vulnerable to sexual abuse and deviation as a result of cultural changes, uncensored information technologies, parentless child developmental settings and increasing attempts by homosexuals to raise children in homosexual relationships through adoption, foster care, or otherwise.

2.1. Defects In existing law.
This proposed legislation is designed to fill the gaps in the provisions of other laws in Uganda e.g. the Penal Code Act Cap. 120.

The Penal Code Act (CapI20) has no comprehensive provision catering for anti homosexuality. It focuses on unnatural offences under section 145 and lacks provisions for penalizing the procurement, promoting, disseminating literature and other pornographic materials concerning the offences of homosexuality hence the need for legislation to provide for charging, investigating, prosecuting, convicting and sentencing of offenders.

This legislation comes to complement and supplement the provisions of the Constitution of Uganda and the Penal Code Act Cap 120 by not only criminalizing same sex marriages but also same-sex sexual acts and other related acts.

3.0. The objectives of the Bill
The objectives of the Bill are to:

(a) provide for marriage in Uganda as that contracted only between a man and a woman;

(b) prohibit and penalize homosexual behavior and related practices in Uganda as they constitute a threat to the traditional family;

(e) prohibit ratification of any international treaties, conventions, protocols, agreements and declarations which are contrary or inconsistent with the provisions of this Act;

(d) prohibit the licensing of organizations which promote homosexuality.

3.1. Part I of the Bill incorporating clause 1 provides for preliminary mailers relating to interpretation of the words and phrases used in the Bill.

3.2. Part II of the Bill incorporating clause 2 to 6 prohibits homosexuality and related practices by introducing the offences of engaging In homosexuality, and the penalties of imprisonment upon conviction. This pan also provides for protection, assistance and support for victims of homosexuality.

3.3. Part III of the Bill incorporating clause 7 to clause 14 creates offences and penalties for acts that promote homosexuality, failure to report the offence and impose a duty on the community to report suspected cases of homosexuality.

3.4. Part IV of the Bill incorporating clause 15 to clause 17 provides for the jurisdiction of Uganda Courts in case of Homosexuality, including extra territorial jurisdiction.

3.5. Part V of the Bill incorporating clauses 18 and 19 provides for miscellaneous provisions on International Treaties, Protocols. Declarations and conventions and the Minister to make regulations to give effect to the Act.

Schedule of the Bill gives the value of the currency point.

HON DAVID BAHATI,
Member of Parliament, Ndorwa County West Kabale.

THE ANTI HOMOSEXUALITY BILL, 2009.
ARRANGEMENT OF CLAUSES.
PART I — PRELIMINARY

Clause
I. Interpretation.

PART ll-PROHIBITION OF HOMOSEXUALITY.

2. The offence of homosexuality
3. Aggravated homosexuality.
4. Attempt to commit homosexuality.
5. Protection, assistance and payment of compensation to victims of homoseuxality
6. Confidentiality.

PART Ill — RELATED OFFENCES AND PENALTIES.

7. Aiding and abating homosexuality.
8. Conspiracy to engage in homosexuality.
9. Procuring homosexuality. by threats, etc.
10. Detention with intent to commit homosexuality.
11. Brothels.
12. Same sex marriage.
13. Promotion of homosexuality.
14. Failure to disclose the offence.

PART IV — JURISDICTION.

15. Jurisdiction.
16. Extra-territorial Jurisdiction.
17. Extradition.

PART V — MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

18. International treaties.
19. Regulations.

Schedule

Currency point.

A BILL FOR AN ACT
ENTITLED
THE ANTI HOMOSEXUALITY ACT, 2009.

An Act to prohibit any form of sexual relations between persons of the same sex; prohibit the promotion or recognition of such relations and to provide for other related matters.

BE IT ENACTED by Parliament as follows:

PART I — PRELIMINARY.

I. Interpretation.

In this Act. unless the context otherwise requires –

“authority” means having power and control over other people because of your knowledge and official position; and shall include a person who exercises religious. political, economic or social authority;

“bisexual” means a person who is sexually attracted to both males and females;

“child” means a person below the age of 18 years:

“currency point” has the value assigned to it in the Schedule to this Act;

“disability” means a substantial limitation of daily life activities caused by physical. mental or sensory impairment and environment barriers resulting in limited participation;

“felony” means an offence which is declared by law to be a felony or if not declared to be a misdemeanor is punishable without proof of previous conviction, with death or with imprisonment for 3 years or more.;

“gay”” means a male person who engages in sexual intimacy with another person of the same sex;

“‘gender”” means male or female;

“HIV” means the Human Immunodeficiency Virus;

“homosexual”‘ means a person who engages or attempts to engage in same gender sexual activity;

“homosexuality”’ means same gender or same sex sexual acts;

“lesbian” means a female who engages in sexual intimacy with another female;

“Minister’” means the Minister responsible for ethics and integrity;

“misdemeanor” means an offence which is not a felony;

“serial offender” means a person who has previous convictions of the offence of homosexuality or related offences;

“sexual act” includes –

(a) physical sexual activity that docs not necessarily culminate in intercourse and may include the touching of another’s breast, vagina, penis or anus:

(b) stimulation or penetration of a vagina or mouth or anus or any part of the body of any person, however slight by a sexual organ;

(c) the unlawful use of any object or organ by a person on another person’s sexual organ or anus or mouth;

“sexual organ” means a vagina, penis or any artificial sexual contraption;

“touching” includes touching—

(a) with any part of the body;

(b) with anything else;

(c) through anything;

and in particular includes touching amounting to penetration of any sexual organ. anus or mouth.

“victim” includes a person who is involved in homosexual activities against his or her will.

PART II — HOMOSEXUALITY AND RELATED PRACTICES.

2. The offence of homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offence of homosexuality if-

(a) he penetrates the anus or mouth of another person of the same sex with his penis or any other sexual contraption;

(b) he or she uses any object or sexual contraption to penetrate or stimulate sexual organ of a person of the same sex;

(e) he or she touches another person with the intention of committing the act of homosexuality.

(2) A person who commits an offence under this section shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for life.

3. Aggravated homosexuality.
(1) A person commits the offense of aggravated homosexuality where the

(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of 18 years;

(b) offender is a person living with HIV;

(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;

(d) offender is a person in authority over the person against whom the offence is committed;

(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;

(f) offender is a serial offender, or

(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy overpower him or her so as to there by enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex,

(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable on conviction to suffer death.

(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.

4, Attempt to commit homosexuality.
(1) A person who attempts to commit the offence of homosexuality commits a felony and is liable on conviction to imprisonment seven years.

(2) A person who attempts to commit the offence of aggravated homosexuality commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for life.

5. Protection, assistance and payment of compensation to victims of homosexuality.
(1 ) A victim of homosexuality shall not be penalized for any crime commuted as a direct result of his or her involvement in homosexuality.

(2) A victim of homosexuality shall be assisted to enable his or her views and concerns to be presented and considered at the appropriate stages of the criminal proceedings.

(3) Where a person is convicted of homosexuality or aggravated homosexuality under sections 2 and 3 of this Act, the court may, in addition to any sentence imposed on the offender, order that the victim of the offence be paid compensation by the offender for any physical, sexual or psychological harm caused to the victim by the offence.

(4) The amount of compensation shall be determined by the court and the court shall take into account the extent of harm suffered by the victim of the offence. the degree of force used by the offender and medical and other expenses incurred by the victim as a result of the offence.

6. Confidentiality.
(1) At any stage of the Investigation or trial of an offence under this Act, law enforcement officers, prosecutors, judicial officers and medical practitioners, as well as parties to the case, shall recognize the right to privacy of the victim.

(2) For the purpose of subsection (I), in cases involving children and other cases where the court considers it appropriate. proceedings of the court shall be conducted in camera, outside the presence of the media.

(3) Any editor or publisher, reporter or columnist in case of printed materials. announcer or producer in case of television and radio, producer or director of a film to case of the movie industry. or any person utilizing trimedia facilities or information technology who publishes or causes the publicity of the names and personal circumstances or any other information tending to establish the victim’s identity without authority of court commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding two hundred and fifty currency points.

7. Aiding and abating homosexuality
A person who aids, abets, counsels or procures another to engage in acts of homosexuality commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for seven years.

8. Conspiracy to engage in homosexuality.
A person who conspires with another to induce another person of the same sex by any means of false pretence or other fraudulent means to permit any person of the same sex to have unlawful carnal knowledge of him or her commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for seven years.

9. Procuring homosexuality by threats, etc.
(1) A person who–

(a) by threats or intimidation procures or attempts to procure any woman or man to have any unlawful carnal knowledge with any person of the same sex, either in Uganda or elsewhere;

(b) by false pretences or false representations procures any woman or man to have any unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex, either in Uganda or elsewhere; or

(2) A person shall not be convicted of an offence under this section upon the evidence of one witness only, unless that witness is corroborated in some material particular by evidence implicating the accused.

10. Detention with intent to commit homosexuality.
A person who detains another person with the intention to commit acts of homosexuality with him or herself or with any other person commits an offence and is liable on conviction for seven years.

11. Brothels.
(1) A person who keeps a house, room,set of rooms or place of any kind for the purposes of homosexuality commits an offence and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for seven years.

2) A person being the owner or occupier of premises or having or acting or assisting in the management or control of the premises, induces or knowingly suffers any man or woman to resort to or be upon such premises for the purpose of being unlawfully and carnally known by any man or woman of the same sex whether such carnal knowledge is intended to be with any particular man or woman generally, commits a felony and is liable on conviction to imprisonment for five years.

12. Same sex marriage.
A person who purports to contract a marriage with another person of the same sex commits the offence of homosexuality and shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for life.

13. Promotion of homosexuality.
(1) A person who –

(a) participates in production. procuring, marketing, broadcasting, disseminating, publishing pornographic materials for purposes of promoting homosexuality;

(b) funds or sponsors homosexuality or other related activities;

(c) offers premises and other related fixed or movable assets for purposes of homosexuality or promoting homosexuality;

(d) uses electronic devices which include internet, films, mobile phones for purposes of homosexuality or promoting homosexuality and;

(e) who acts as an accomplice or attempts to promote or in any way abets homosexuality and related practices;

commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a line of live thousand currency points or imprisonment of a minimum of five years and a maximum of seven years or both fine and imprisonment.

(2) Where the offender is a corporate body or a business or an association or a non-governmental organization, on conviction its certificate of registration shall be cancelled and the director or proprietor or promoter shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for seven years.

14. Failure to disclose the offence.
A person in authority, who being aware of the commission of any offence under this Act, omits to report the offence to the relevant authorities within twenty-four hours of having first had that knowledge, commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding two hundred and fifty currency points or imprisonment not exceeding three years.

PART IV — JURISDICTION

15. Jurisdiction.
Save for aggravated homosexuality that shall be tried by the High Court, the magistrates court shall have jurisdiction to try the other offences under this Act.

16. Extra- Territorial Jurisdiction.
This Act shall apply to offenses committed outside Uganda where –

(a) a person who, while being a citizen of or permanently residing in Uganda, commits an act outside Uganda, which act would constitute an offence under this Act had it been committed in Uganda; or

(b) the offence was committed partly outside and or partly in Uganda.

17. Extradition.
A person charged with an offence under this Act shall be liable to extradition under the existing extradition laws.

PART V — MISCELLANEOUS.

18. Nullification of inconsistent international treaties, protocols, declarations and conventions.(1) Any International legal instrument whose provisions are contradictory to the spirit and provisions enshrined in this Act, are null and void to the extent of their inconsistency.

(2) Definitions of “sexual orientation”, “sexual rights”, “sexual minorities”, “gender identity” shall not be used in anyway to legitimize homosexuality, gender identity disorders and related practices in Uganda.

19. Regulations.
The Minister may, by statutory instrument. make regulations generally for better carrying out the provisions of this Act.

SCHEDULE

One currency point is equivalent to twenty thousand shillings.


41 posted on 02/26/2010 4:58:45 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat
You write a lot and say little.

Say little? Posting my last meticulously written masterpiece exposing the homosexual lifestyle and their agenda (numerous times it appears) is hardly saying little. (I know, I should be flogged with a dirty gay bathhouse towel for saying such things about your buddies).

Do you approve of a law prescribing life imprisonment for consensual, adult sex between two men or two women?

(Uh oh, lesbo alert, lesbo alert). Only if there is a donkey involved.

On a SERIOUS note: As shown, the well organized, well financed homosexual movement has either openly moved into valuable American institutions, or covertly done so. Either way, our once great Christian nation is in moral peril because of it.

I would love nothing more than for our society to start accepting God's laws as the ultimate truth, instead of moral relativist atheism. I would love to see the homosexual lifestyle and it's agenda exposed for what it truly is: EVIL. I would love for our country to start enforcing public decency laws once again, hence, "Chase the purveyors of sex and violence back beneath the rocks whence they came."

I bet you never heard those words spoken from a Marxist professor at Haaaaavard did you?

42 posted on 02/26/2010 5:26:11 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

That’s nice.

Do you approve of a law prescribing life imprisonment for consensual, adult sex between two men or two women?


43 posted on 02/26/2010 5:33:06 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: ivyleaguebrat
Do you approve of a law prescribing life imprisonment for consensual, adult sex between two men or two women?

Let me see. What has our Christian Nation done in the past with sexual deviants? Yes, we enforced sodomy laws, and those that habitually broke them were incarcerated.

Now keep in mind that prior to homosexual "pioneer" (I think that's how our Marxist President praised him) Frank "There's nothing wrong with bestiality as long as the animal doesn't mind" Kameny convincing the American Psychiatric Association in 1973 that peeking through public restroom glory holes really ISN'T a mental disorder; that up until that time homosexuality was "a lifestyle that every major world religion and thousands of years of history have held to be immoral and destructive from a spiritual and emotional -- and certainly a physical standpoint".

Mental institutions would be an apropos solution for those that honestly believe that they were "born a woman inside a man's body". There is however plenty of organizations that have been very successful in helping those that were fooled into believing that they were "born gay" into realizing that it is indeed a lifestyle of lies.

Next question please.

44 posted on 02/26/2010 6:56:43 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

I do think that things are going a bit far when, as this bill states, one can be imprisoned for life in Uganda for touching another person “with the intent to commit a homosexual act” in a completely different country. Talk about thought crimes! This is ripe for abuse, even if it were justified on its face.


45 posted on 02/26/2010 7:19:50 PM PST by Kahonek
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To: Kahonek
I do think that things are going a bit far when, as this bill states, one can be imprisoned for life in Uganda for touching another person “with the intent to commit a homosexual act” in a completely different country. Talk about thought crimes! This is ripe for abuse, even if it were justified on its face.

Two things:
1) Thinking about touching someone would indeed be a "thought crime". The act of touching is a physical act; either physical contact was made between two people or it wasn't.
2) Homosexual acts of "touching" rarely involve a handshake.

46 posted on 02/26/2010 9:09:02 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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To: aSeattleConservative

So is that a yes or a no?


47 posted on 02/26/2010 9:36:57 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: Maelstorm

Why did people think Sarah Palin (wisely) avoided CPAC like the plague this year.


48 posted on 02/26/2010 9:41:19 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: aSeattleConservative

“Two things:
1) Thinking about touching someone would indeed be a “thought crime”. The act of touching is a physical act; either physical contact was made between two people or it wasn’t.
2) Homosexual acts of “touching” rarely involve a handshake.”

Read the law. Touching can involve any part of the body. Then you have to prove it wasn’t with the intent to commit a homosexual act. Clearly that’s a thought crime. This is a bad law.


49 posted on 02/26/2010 11:04:16 PM PST by Kahonek
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To: ivyleaguebrat
So is that a yes or a no?

I assume to the following question: "Do you approve of a law prescribing life imprisonment for consensual, adult sex between two men or two women?"

I've been on the witness stand too many times in both criminal and civil matters to fall prey to a "yes or no" question by some Public Defender wearing a cheap polyester suit.

Here's my answer counselor:

As previously mentioned, our great Christian Nation that was founded upon Christian principles at one time had universal laws throughout the land that enforced public decency.

To answer your question:

If after a "gay pride parade" where drag queens, "Dykes on Bikes", NAMBLA child molesters marching under their new acronym "PLUBSL!" (PLEASE Let Us Be Scout Leaders!), a guy running around in a penis costume lisping "Thafe Thex! Thafe Thex!", and the thousands of other sexual deviants that parade in front of CHILDREN doing such things as simulated sex acts (while being practically nude); IF two males (notice I didn't call them "men") or two hairy legged/arm pitted lesbos should be caught in the act of sodomy inside the privacy of their own public restroom toilet stall, the following should happen:

Public decency laws and their penalty should be STRICTLY enforced. If little Bruth seems to think that it's his "right" to play peek a boo through a glory hole inside a public restroom (followed of course by anonymous sex with "what's his name") because it is some kind of "constitutional right", he can play jailhouse lawyer all he wants (while enjoying being gang raped in the jailhouse shower).

My turn: Since mommy and daddy spent all of that money putting your through Haaaaaavard, do tell us why you support such a promiscuous, disease ridden, deviant lifestlye such as homosexuality?

50 posted on 02/27/2010 8:28:02 AM PST by aSeattleConservative
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