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Health Care About To Go down In Flames
Worldnet Daily ^ | 03/05/2010 | John Gizzi

Posted on 03/05/2010 2:25:03 PM PST by GilGil

Listen to Gizzi's forecast that this is going down in flames. Don't be afraid to believe it because it is happening ending in total failure for the democrats.


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KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare
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The democrats have crossed the point of diminishing returns. This condition occurs when the ego or collective ego has so taken over the dynamics that whatever it does ends in failure. Whatever the democrats do or say is now resulting in failure and this is why this health care bill is now a mine field designed to blow off the democrats legs. Look at Harry Reid today who says with a straight face that the loss of 36,000 is "really, really good." Or Nancy Pelosi who says that there is no abortion legislation in the health care bill and then Stupak points out in detail what pages the abortion legislation is on.

This is now an hour by hour thing, where gaffe, after gaffe, after gaffe is being committed for all to see which is the coup the grace, the final knife in the back of the neck.

Things are looking up indeed and don't be afraid to win taking no prisoners at the same time!

1 posted on 03/05/2010 2:25:03 PM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil

After going to the link, is there a suggestion how to find the particular selection you mention.


2 posted on 03/05/2010 2:32:19 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: GilGil

The night is darkest just before the dawn, but the dawn is coming. — Harvey Dent (The Dark Knight)

Morning in America will arrive again.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 03/05/2010 2:34:40 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (The night is darkest just before the dawn, but [...] the dawn is coming. -- Harvey Dent)
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To: SnakeDoctor

from your lips to God’s ears.


4 posted on 03/05/2010 2:35:56 PM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Chuzzlewit

AMEN!


5 posted on 03/05/2010 2:37:34 PM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: GilGil

Keep calling and faxing everyone. www.faxzero.com allows you to send two free faxes a day.

Make sure your house members get faxes and calls. I also think the GOP stalled it until Christmas and it has dragged on into now March - it will be a lot harder for the Dems.


6 posted on 03/05/2010 2:37:42 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: SnakeDoctor

I was never worried that this push by Obama would work.
I will bet money he tries again , one last time ....
It won’t pass either. Any bill by this Congress on healthcare is DOA.


7 posted on 03/05/2010 2:38:08 PM PST by RED SOUTH
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To: GilGil

Never be assured of anything.

HealthCare must be destroyed in a Hollywood like, wooden stake thru its heart, dismembered, with the pieces incinerated and the ashes blown to the far corners of the planet.

Like a zombie in a Bmovie...it keeps springing to life.


8 posted on 03/05/2010 2:40:48 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (BOOM! Taste my nightstick! Sarah, making Shatner sound Shakespearean.)
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To: GilGil

I hope it goes down in flames.

But never underestimate the GOP’s ability to defeat itself when it really counts.

Oh and WorldNutDaily can pound sand.


9 posted on 03/05/2010 2:41:12 PM PST by GeronL (I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: GilGil

Just remember, a cornered animal will attack.

A hit in the “center of mass” does not always end the fight.

Don’t count your chickens until they hatch.

Wait for the fat lady to sing.


10 posted on 03/05/2010 2:41:51 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: RED SOUTH
one last time ....

Or two... or three...

That damn big EGO just won't give up. When he finally does, he is going to be pissed at everyone.

11 posted on 03/05/2010 2:41:52 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: GilGil

If Rats had any intelligence they would let this blow up next week and blame religiously biased blue dogs and republicans for the lack of health care for the 30 million.


12 posted on 03/05/2010 2:42:05 PM PST by omega4179 (jdforsenate.com hunt some rinos 2010)
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To: GilGil
Very telling. What's also telling is that the MSM has not lifted a finger to do any rough head counts on where this bill stands. Also, note that there has not been a single report of a previous “NO” democRAT even remotely considering a switch to a “YES” vote.

Yes, there have been some backroom deal with Cong. Jim Matheson’s brother getting appointed to a federal judgeship and now he's reconsidering his previous "NO" vote but other than that, where are all the “change to YES” votes?

13 posted on 03/05/2010 2:43:54 PM PST by w_over_w (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is.~Yogi Berra)
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To: RobinOfKingston

It’s an audio file and it started for me as soon as I got to the link.


14 posted on 03/05/2010 2:45:37 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SnakeDoctor

But don’t forget what Rush said, just this afternoon:

(Paraphrase) This thing may be temporarily defeated, but these people are NOT going away. They have been working toward this day for numerous decades, and they WILL keep coming back. Constant vigilance is mandatory!


15 posted on 03/05/2010 2:45:42 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: w_over_w

According to the guy talking at the link Nancy calims to have converted 10 who voted no the first time into yes votes. I wish we knew who they were so we could apply some constituent pressure.


16 posted on 03/05/2010 2:47:01 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Right Wing Assault
That damn big EGO just won't give up. When he finally does, he is going to be pissed at everyone.

The White House is backing off civilian trials for terrorists. That has to be irritating.

If they lose on healthcare, he will be fuming.

Once they lose in November, he might burst into flames!

Seriously, if Obama goes the way of Carter, expect years of interviews where he laments the racism still in our nation that derailed his agenda.

17 posted on 03/05/2010 2:49:13 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I don’t believe this is dead and if we are saavy, none of us will believe it.


18 posted on 03/05/2010 2:54:09 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Erik Latranyi

I have never doubted the Democrats’ ability to fail, it’s the Republicans’ ability to succeed that worries me. That’s why I don’t vote. The Democrats always do what they say they are going to do and the Republicans never do what they say they are going to do.

Huckfillary


19 posted on 03/05/2010 2:56:01 PM PST by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: GilGil
Pelosi and Reid think they can flat out lie to the American people and they will buy into it. For hard, hard left rats that may be true but even some democrats can see a black lie when it bites them in the ass as obviously as this one.
20 posted on 03/05/2010 2:56:23 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: GeronL

Glad to see about half of the people here have not bought the head fake yet that this is a done deal! It ain’t over and these desperate, wounded, proud, pathetic, haters of Free Enterprise will not give up. IF they fail to pass this with some trick they will come back again and again even if they have to do it piecemeal. But,look for a “fix” on the abortion language by a separate piece of legislation to buy the “pro-life” democrats. Yes, and oxymoron. You can not seriously be pro-live and a deathnocrat.


21 posted on 03/05/2010 2:58:03 PM PST by Conservative9
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Exactly.
22 posted on 03/05/2010 2:58:16 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I heard David Horowitz on Glenn Beck radio show this morning and he said it is very probable there will be violence on the left the the hc bill does not pass as the left is in an unholy alliance with terror groups and they will be very angry.


23 posted on 03/05/2010 2:58:22 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (The dogs barked and the caravans rolled on!)
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To: SnakeDoctor

It is darkest just before it’s black. Peanuts


24 posted on 03/05/2010 2:58:53 PM PST by mel
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To: sheikdetailfeather

correction: If the hc bill does not pass


25 posted on 03/05/2010 2:59:18 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (The dogs barked and the caravans rolled on!)
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To: Conservative9

and the spineless GOP is never going to undo it.


26 posted on 03/05/2010 3:00:01 PM PST by GeronL (I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: saganite
According to the guy talking at the link Nancy calims to have converted 10 who voted no the first time into yes votes. I wish we knew who they were so we could apply some constituent pressure.

Agreed. But the key phrase is "Nancy claims". She also "claims" there is no language in the bill that provides federal funding for abortion and yet it says it right there on page 2069.

Perhaps the reason we don't know the names of these "10" is because they only exist in Nancy's brain (or lack thereof).

27 posted on 03/05/2010 3:00:52 PM PST by w_over_w (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is.~Yogi Berra)
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To: Frantzie

I would urge people to call or contact the dozen congressmen even if you’re not in their district and tell them: “Two words, Congressman: MONEY BOMB! I will be contributing to the full extent allowable to your opponent in the primary and so will my spouse and my children”. Or just simply say: “Scott Brown”. This is what I do because my congressman is one of the good guys.


28 posted on 03/05/2010 3:02:05 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: GilGil

Soooo....no competition across state borders or tort reform either? Bummer


29 posted on 03/05/2010 3:05:19 PM PST by Samizdat
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To: Graybeard58

There needs to be protests in front of their homes just like the rats do.


30 posted on 03/05/2010 3:05:44 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: GilGil

>>Things are looking up indeed and don’t be afraid to win taking no prisoners at the same time!<<

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Now is the time to all stand up and ask the question: “Who is Obama, we want to know?”


31 posted on 03/05/2010 3:06:49 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: Erik Latranyi

That is the whole point. Ego for the sake of ego has a characteristic that it always creates its own failure. I hope the democrats never give up because they are in a perpetual zone of diminishing returns. The harder they now try to accomplish this, the more failure, after failure, after failure comes.

They remind me of 60’s hippies who want to live the glory days again but they are prisoners of their minds and cannot accomplish anything any longer.

We have to egg them on to try harder and harder and harder and they will only meet failure, after failure, after failure.

You don’t give up the fight but you realize that they are prisoners of themselves and they are self destructing. Nice.


32 posted on 03/05/2010 3:09:38 PM PST by GilGil
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To: sheikdetailfeather
However, it's a fact that the left doesn't like this bill either.

They are furious about the mandate to buy insurance and "prop up the corporate health companies".

DU is good evidence...they are not thrilled by this bill.

33 posted on 03/05/2010 3:10:41 PM PST by what's up
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Violence from their side would be in keeping with being jinxed by a wave of failure. Violence would justify throwing them in jail or prosecuting them and would marginlize them. Bring it on!


34 posted on 03/05/2010 3:12:21 PM PST by GilGil
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To: GeronL

I think you call that snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...


35 posted on 03/05/2010 3:12:38 PM PST by databoss
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To: w_over_w

You’re probably right. She might claim to have 10 to put pressure on holdouts by asking them “do you want to be the one who sinks the President’s agenda”.


36 posted on 03/05/2010 3:13:11 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: FrdmLvr

Great idea. Call and say Scott Brown or Money Bomb for your primary opponent. I think the Scott Brown one is simpler. I like it.

People need to at least call and fax their representative and the ones neighboring their district.


37 posted on 03/05/2010 3:16:51 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: GeronL

No, I would not hold my breath. Bunning could not muster even one republican to stand with him. I thought Jim Demint was tough but he would only agree with Bunning to TV cameras, not on the Senate floor. Are they listening at all?


38 posted on 03/05/2010 3:17:44 PM PST by Conservative9
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To: GilGil

Until congress recesses, and we flip at least 1 house this crap IS NOT DEAD. IF we don’t flip 1 house we will fight this crap for 3 more years.

My doctor whom I respect and trust says he’ll retire if this crap passes, he refuses to work under Nazicare. Which means 4 other people besides him will not have jobs.

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
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Health Reform 3.0 - Lipstick On A Pig
Friday, March 05, 2010 3:05:55 PM · 5 of 5
GailA to raptor22

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


39 posted on 03/05/2010 3:25:16 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: GilGil

PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
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Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
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Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
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Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Gordon (202) 225-4231 TN
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI


40 posted on 03/05/2010 3:25:31 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: GilGil

41 posted on 03/05/2010 3:25:43 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: saganite

Thank you for the reply. Dead silence for me.

I think the antenna on my tinfoil helmet is turned wrong.


42 posted on 03/05/2010 3:32:11 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I think they’re not backing away: they’re just testing the waters to see if the extreme left deserts them -— which it won’t. They’ll pretend to “consider” a mil tribunal, then do a civil trial somewhere other than NY.


43 posted on 03/05/2010 3:42:02 PM PST by Laur
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To: GilGil

I hope, but frankly I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t become the law of the land.


44 posted on 03/05/2010 4:02:37 PM PST by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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To: w_over_w

“According to the guy talking at the link Nancy calims to have converted 10 who voted no the first time into yes votes. I wish we knew who they were so we could apply some constituent pressure.

Agreed. But the key phrase is “Nancy claims”. She also “claims” there is no language in the bill that provides federal funding for abortion and yet it says it right there on page 2069.

Perhaps the reason we don’t know the names of these “10” is because they only exist in Nancy’s brain (or lack thereof). “

I agree, Nazi Pelosi has claimed a lot of things over the past year on this issue. I remember a Drudge headline from last August, one of those bright red headlines in caps that said “PELOSI: ‘I HAVE THE VOTES.’”

She also said we would have a health bill passed before the August recess, by the end of the year (2009), and now by the Easter break. I think this woman is delusional or possibly insane.

Nothing is for sure and we certainly can’t afford to let up on pressuring our congresspeople, but I don’t believe for a second that they are close to passing this thing. If they were, she’d have a vote scheduled for this weekend.


45 posted on 03/05/2010 4:30:15 PM PST by lquist1
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To: GilGil

And yet, like lemmings, they persist in marching off the cliff.

God made the lemmings, but what fool makes Democrats?


46 posted on 03/05/2010 4:43:17 PM PST by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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Nothing is for sure and we certainly can’t afford to let up on pressuring our congresspeople, but I don’t believe for a second that they are close to passing this thing. If they were, she’d have a vote scheduled for this weekend.

+1

Also, the Lame Stream Media would be all over it . . .

47 posted on 03/05/2010 4:53:20 PM PST by w_over_w (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is.~Yogi Berra)
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To: chesley
God made the lemmings, but what fool makes Democrats?

. . . uhhh . . . Lucifer? ;-)

48 posted on 03/05/2010 4:54:21 PM PST by w_over_w (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is.~Yogi Berra)
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To: GilGil

“They remind me of 60’s hippies who want to live the glory days again but they are prisoners of their minds and cannot accomplish anything any longer.”

What did they accomplish the first time? Better yet, what do you think they were trying to accomplish?


49 posted on 03/05/2010 5:03:43 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: w_over_w

Could be


50 posted on 03/05/2010 5:21:22 PM PST by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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