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Mark Steyn: Obamacare worth the price to Democrats
The Orange County Register ^ | March 5, 2010 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/06/2010 4:19:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

So there was President Obama, giving his bazillionth speech on health care, droning yet again that "now is the hour when we must seize the moment," the same moment he's been seizing every day of the week for the past year, only this time his genius photo-op guys thought it would look good to have him surrounded by men in white coats.

Why is he doing this? Why let "health" "care" "reform" stagger on like the rotting husk in a low-grade creature feature who refuses to stay dead no matter how many stakes you pound through his chest?

Because it's worth it. Big time. I've been saying in this space for two years that the governmentalization of health care is the fastest way to a permanent left-of-center political culture. It redefines the relationship between the citizen and the state in fundamental ways that make limited government all but impossible. In most of the rest of the Western world, there are still nominally "conservative" parties, and they even win elections occasionally, but not to any great effect (Let's not forget that Jacques Chirac was, in French terms, a "conservative").

The result is a kind of two-party one-party state: Right-of-center parties will once in a while be in office, but never in power, merely presiding over vast left-wing bureaucracies that cruise on regardless.

Republicans seem to have difficulty grasping this basic dynamic. Less than three months ago, they were stunned at the way the Democrats managed to get 60 senators to vote for the health bill. Then Scott Brown took them back down to 59, and Republicans were again stunned to find the Dems talking about ramming this thing into law through the parliamentary device of "reconciliation."(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010; bho44; congress; democrats; healthcare; healthcontrol; marksteyn; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine; steyn
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Agreed. Best article posted this year by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 03/07/2010 10:23:34 AM PST by nikos1121 (Praying for minus 24 today....at least minus 23...)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Well, I tend to agree that I want to kill myself too, when I learn what is going on here.


42 posted on 03/07/2010 10:39:15 AM PST by nikos1121 (Praying for minus 24 today....at least minus 23...)
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To: SkipW

Huckabee was the spoiler. They did want Romney. I don’tknow. I think that they know about Obama’s true citizenship. They’re thinking the worst thing that can happen is to have the guy declare an illegal president.

Therefore, the idea for republicans is to take back the congress and white house. But they have to fight this health care take over.

THis must be illegal.


43 posted on 03/07/2010 10:42:38 AM PST by nikos1121 (Praying for minus 24 today....at least minus 23...)
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To: nikos1121

I don’t pretend to have the answer, but I still can’t figure out why all of those GOP candidates who were in the race at the time dropped out so quickly and supported John McCain. McCain was known as a RINO who could be counted on to vote against Republican initiatives frequently.

I thought the little punk was just perverse. He crossed the aisle to join Democrats repeatedly. He was known for this.

As far as Obama’ legality, I can only hope that it is proven that he is not a natural born citizen. I don’t see it happening. If it did happen I believe the Democratic Party would be destroyed. (Not that they don’t deserve it.) But it would be impossible for them to claim that they did not know that Obama was illegal.


44 posted on 03/07/2010 12:03:28 PM PST by SkipW
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To: SkipW
The way that John McCain became the candidate for president is extremely suspicious

OPEN PRIMARIES

Open Primaries allow democrats to chose republican candidates and that's why zillions of busloads of ACORN/SEIU volunteers descended like locusts on primary states in 2008.

45 posted on 03/07/2010 3:10:38 PM PST by x_plus_one (Health care is a loser for the Left only if the Right has the steel to undo it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s going to be an interesting dilemma for the Democrats. A vote to pass the bill now is suicide for November, yet it’s also a very risky long term vote.

Without Republican support, every little thing that goes wrong for anybody in the future regarding this program can be laid at the feet of the Democrats.

You can’t do that with the frustrating post office, or even Social Security or Medicare.

They will own this one, and a vote might not just be political suicide for the candidates in November. It’s something that their party might not survive.


46 posted on 03/07/2010 5:11:14 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: x_plus_one

That is the way it is here in Montana. Efforts have been made to change the Open Primary system, but they are fought successfully every session by the Democrats, who always vote in a bloc.

We recently had an old, “eccentric” gentleman who ran for election to the Senate. He had run in every election for years. First as a Democrat, then as an Independent and finally as a Republican.

His stump speech always addressed his belief that America should adopt a Parlimentary system of government. That was it. Nothing about current issues. I am sure that Democrats crossed the line and voted for him in the Primary. He was the easiest to beat.

Some Republicans insisted that a Democrat would not want to miss a chance to vote for either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. I pointed out that they didn’t really care which one of them won because they are both radical leftists who would have the same policies.

The goofy old man won that Primary, but of course was not elected. Open Primaries are a tool that the Democratsuse with great success.


47 posted on 03/07/2010 6:11:47 PM PST by SkipW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just depressing.


48 posted on 03/09/2010 8:21:20 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Palin would have the balls to try to undo this crap but I don’t think any of the other Pubbies would.


49 posted on 03/09/2010 1:53:42 PM PST by JusPasenThru (Why won't those knuckle-dragging tea-bagging right-wing bastards just negotiate with me?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is all about “a compelling government interest”.

Right now one of the FEW things keeping the Fed from dictating the minutiae of our lives is that there is no “compelling government interest” in doing so.

Once they pay for our medical care, suddenly there is a “compelling government interest” in regulating just about every aspect of our lives.

50 posted on 03/09/2010 1:57:41 PM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Freddd

Very well said. I’m going to borrow heavily from that in future arguments and pretend it’s my own. :-)


51 posted on 03/09/2010 2:22:02 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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