Skip to comments.How Many Government Employees Are There?
Posted on 03/08/2010 5:47:40 AM PST by fruser1
Given all the talk of wanting a smaller government, I figured I'd look up how many government employees there are. I found this info rather easily but thought it was worth passing on.
These numbers are from 2008 data. The addition and percentages I performed myself:
Number of Full-Time Federal Employees - 2,518,101 Part-Time - 250,785 Full-Time State - 3,818,577 Part-Time - 1,451,002 Full-Time Local - 11,039,250 Part-Time - 3,383,976
TOTAL - 22,461,691
2008 US Population (est) - 304,059,724
% of Gov't employees - 7.38%
Inverse - 13.536
So this means that there's a government employee for every 13.5 people in the country.
Below are links to where I got this data. You can check out your own state-specific numbers there if you want.
For State and Local data, I looked at the "US Summary Table" which explicitly lists full-time and part-time categories separately. For the Fed data, I had to subtract "full-time" from the "total" to get number of part-time employees above, as that table did not explicitly list the number of part-time employees.
Not counting the military the largest employer in the county is - the county.
The school system alone has close to 7,000 workers - one for every 7.4 students.
Those studies show that government workers earn 150% more than equivalent term and skill positions in the private sector. But that way understates the difference in earnings.
I do not think that those studies include the factor of job risk. Most people in private sector jobs get laid off or fired — downsized — every so often. No so with FedGov.
I’d guesstimate that were that job risk to be factored in we’re looking at 300%.
Amazing! Can some one tell me what justifies that many?
And then also tell me why the Census must hire 1.2 million ADDITIONAL government employees - to count an estimated 310 million people? Approximately 1 census worker to count each 258 people! Over the course of many months! Do they each count a couple a day and then go home?
Yeah, but who would pay them for producing nothing?
This was done by mechanizing, automating and roboticizing the way mail is handled.
Although there are hundreds of thousands of employees there, each is just a cog in a vast machine that becomes "more machine" and "less human" every year. The human beings continue to be vital to the machine but eventually that will come to an end.
It is conceivable that within 50 years the only employee will be the Postmaster General.
Not even close.
They census "workers" only go out to the places where the forms are not mailed in.
In reality, what percentage will that be, 10-15%.
So these "workers" will have to contact 25-30 families over the course of six months, about one a week.
What a backbreaking job that has to be.
It depends on how many part timers they've got, and where the work takes place.
Government engineers don't either.
You match job for job with the same skillsets and experience, the studies show the opposite.
Now, let's match CRIMINAL RECORDS. Your typical civil servant, e.g. a postal worker or one of the drones at Department of Defense (that's at the federal level eh) do not have CRIMINAL RECORDS!
Show me how Seven Eleven or AAA Refuse could run a business if they demanded that no one have a CRIMINAL RECORD.
Hey, even General Motors hires convicted felons!
The US government doesn't.
You are in la-la land on this matter — YOU look up the studies. Also, you are mistaken about the felony class.
Does “SEIU” give you a clue?
Now, where are your studies that show that federal employees make more, doing the same job, than private sector employees.
I know I know, that is the problem, but I consider that THEIR problem. I just want them to go away.
Maybe they can enslave the local 4-legged critters in their new far far away paradise. :)
Sorry, I’m no longer helping the lazy.
Here in Houston there are more contractors doing work for/at NASA than there are actual federal employees.
If not, the picture is WAY worse than these numbers paint it.
If that small portion is 10-15%, or 31-46 million, that comes to 26-39 people to count for each "worker." Subtracting even 50% of the Census staff for "management" and "support" staff and that's still 52-78 people to count for each actual Census counter!
Once you take even the smallest part of this process out of the hands of the computers and the mail delivery service, that part is going to take far more time and effort.
You didn’t even name the studies. (What I’m hoping for here is that you’ll refer to a rather famous private company in the field of comparing jobs that’s otherwise managed by classical Marxists).
‘Way too many...
With the taxes we pay, trust me, we are ALL working for the government.