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Five Myths about Same Sex Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | March 9, 2010 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 03/09/2010 12:18:39 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: ketsu

“What can we do as a society to make families more stable and raise children right?”.

Do what my parents did...what I did...what my three married sons did...work it out...go to Church...play three sports and study hard...that stuff.


121 posted on 03/09/2010 2:14:03 PM PST by jessduntno (Read the mainstream media. Do the opposite. You can't go wrong.)
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To: liberalism is suicide

Well said.


122 posted on 03/09/2010 2:14:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: ketsu; little jeremiah
Do your friends live in inner-city Philadelphia?

I live near Philadelphia. I have friends and family who live in various parts of Philly. Center City, South Philly, etc.

Does that make me qualified to state that homosexual behavior is not in the best of interest of children?

123 posted on 03/09/2010 2:15:00 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Just how many grown children of “stable homosexual parents” have you been in contact with? The very idea of homosexual “couples” raising children together is rather new. Even today, there are very few of these couples, and most would only have young children.

I have little doubt that the number kids old enough to mug someone, raised by a pair of homosexual parents (”stable” or otherwise) is statistically insignificant. And even if they don’t mug you, they might well molest your child.

It's not that new. These children were adopted in the early 90s.

And no they won't molest your children.

124 posted on 03/09/2010 2:15:11 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Jim Robinson; ketsu

Jim, I told ketsu that Free Republic is a conservative forum and DU is liberal. He/she says I have it backwards. Would you mind clearing that up? Is FR a liberal forum which supports the homosexual agenda?


125 posted on 03/09/2010 2:19:23 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: ketsu; wagglebee
I'm wondering what a modern conservativism that meaningfully advocated family values would look like.

A lot like old time conservatism because that's the ONLY thing that advocates family values.

126 posted on 03/09/2010 2:20:06 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ketsu; wagglebee; little jeremiah
Even supposed moral absolutists complete change their supposed moral absolutes from generation to generation.

Unadulterated horse hockey.

If the morals changed, they weren't absolutes.

127 posted on 03/09/2010 2:21:43 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ketsu
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF PEDIATRICIANS says:

There is significant risk of harm inherent in exposing a child to the homosexual lifestyle. Given the current body of evidence, the American College of Pediatricians believes it is inappropriate, potentially hazardous to children, and dangerously irresponsible to change the age-old prohibition on homosexual parenting, whether by adoption, foster care, or reproductive manipulation. This position is rooted in the best available science.

128 posted on 03/09/2010 2:22:09 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

Funny how marriage died but we’re supposed to all support redefining it so gays can marry.


129 posted on 03/09/2010 2:22:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: little jeremiah
The reason inner city Philly is rotten (or at least one of the main reasons) is AFDC, along with food stamps, HUD and other bennies for unwed mothers. The rate of illigitemacy among blacks before all of these was about 20%, now it’s about 80%. I agree that rewarding bad behavior does nothing but increase it.

The culture is also toxic. But the homosexual agenda is part and parcel of the hedonist/reject traditional rules/if it feels good do it problem.

Now we're getting somewhere. Entitlements are part of the problem, but if entitlements were the root of all evil Nigeria would be a paradise.

But you're 100% right. The problem is that *there are no consequences for bad behavior anymore*. It used to be that nature and society intervened. Want to be promiscuous? You died of an STD, had children you couldn't support and were cast out of society.

However, technology(medicine, transport, cheap food) has made most of those problems tractable. Monstrous diseases like AIDs are treatable. Most single parents, either thanks to the government or their own work can feed their children. Ostracized people can just move to a new city.

The old rules don't work anymore. The wages of sin may still be death, but that death is much longer coming.

130 posted on 03/09/2010 2:23:19 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu

This is a conservative activist site. I think you may be lost.


131 posted on 03/09/2010 2:24:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ketsu
In the old days, fornication led to bastards, disease and ostracism. It still does to some extent, but not nearly as much.

Another crock. It still leads to the same things it always did.

Or aren't you aware of AIDs, HPV, and other STD's that are on the increase?

132 posted on 03/09/2010 2:24:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
A lot like old time conservatism because that's the ONLY thing that advocates family values.
Indeed. That's why I'm conservative; however, there's a difference between having a positive view of what you want and knowing what you don't want.

Modern conservatism has a lot of views of what it *doesn't* want. However it offers very little constructive views of what it *does*. Saying single parents and homos are bad is easy. Coming up with a coherent view of a strong family oriented society in the modern world is hard.

How do you come up with strong families when you're constantly moving from place to place with new jobs? How do you take the tide of illegitimate, lonely and neglected children and put them in environments where they can succeed?

The modern conservative answer is to make a bunch of stuff illegal, more government. There's very little work on constructing low level social structures that maintain and perpetuate strong families and stable society.

133 posted on 03/09/2010 2:32:23 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu; little jeremiah; wagglebee
Single parenting is awful. Worse than homosexuals from my experience.

What a slap in the face to ALL the single parent families out there and all the single parent FReepers on this forum.

Nice broad brush you paint them with. That includes those who are divorced against their will, whose spouses up and leave and abandon the family, those whose spouses are sick or incapacitated in some way and essentially can't help with the child rearing, soldiers who are out on duty and stationed overseas so the spouse is raising the children alone, and those whose spouses have DIED.

This boy is part of a single parent family now.


134 posted on 03/09/2010 2:34:39 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ketsu

You are not a conservative. You are a liberaltarian, pro-homosexual marriage, anarchist.


135 posted on 03/09/2010 2:37:37 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ketsu

The modern conservative answer is to make a bunch of stuff illegal, more government. There’s very little work on constructing low level social structures that maintain and perpetuate strong families and stable society.


Inquiring minds would like to know what you are doing to practice what you preach. I like what you said.


136 posted on 03/09/2010 2:38:11 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: ketsu

AIDs had nothing to do with the old rules, because AIDs didn’t even exist. Treatment for AIDs does not negate the absolute moral code we have lived by for thousands of years. Try something else.


137 posted on 03/09/2010 2:38:23 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: metmom

Yes, it is a slap in the face. It is disgusting that anyone would suggest that fine young son of a great American hero would be better off in the hands of a homosexual. When did the trolls come out of the closet with their perverted ideas?


138 posted on 03/09/2010 2:41:53 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Vigilanteman

I doubt that a person’s eyesight who was born blind could be restored just as much as person’s hearing cold be restored who is deaf due to nerve damage. My daughter is deaf in her left ear, because the nerve was damaged when she suffered from Meningitis as an infant


139 posted on 03/09/2010 2:42:50 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for Obama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Finny; b9

Here we might have some of the same views lol.


140 posted on 03/09/2010 2:46:39 PM PST by pandoraou812 (timendi causa est nescire)
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