Skip to comments.Stupak Touts Sidebar Bill Banning Abortion $, Pro-Lifers Skeptical
Posted on 03/09/2010 1:15:47 PM PST by julieee
Stupak Touts Sidebar Bill Banning Abortion $, Pro-Lifers Skeptical
Washington, DC -- Congressman Bart Stupak, the de facto leader of the coalition of pro-life Democrats who may vote no on the Senate health care bill because of its massive abortion funding, expressed optimism that a deal could be work out on a sidebar bill to ban funding that goes along with the main bill.
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Here’s the obvious trap with this one - the “side bar” bill will contain the anti-abortion language plus some horrendously bad provisions no republican could possible swallow. When the bill goes down the gang shrugs their shoulders and say well, we tried but the republicans wouldn’t let us.
Stupak must mean “Traitor” in slavic.
I guess Obama made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Maybe the FBI got some 8 x 10 glossies of Stupak doing something he shouldn’t or maybe George Soros or the Saudis made a direct deposit into a Swiss Bank Account for Stupak.
OR, maybe Obama offered Stupak a new Czarship.
There will be no sidebar bill Stupak. There will be the Senate Bill, period, end of statement.Your demagoguery has gotten you nowhere and you are a disgrace to the pro life community which you supposedly support. You are a Democrat first and foremost and life is what happens while you are playing politician.
Any way to do bundling that does not lend itself to Lucy-pulls-away-the-football at the last moment? Leaving the House with a vote for the Senate bill and no sidebar? I don’t see Bummer as above that kind of maneuver, or for that matter Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.
Selling out, as predicted.
Please please throw us in this “trap.”
They don’t even have the decency to be bought out with transparency.
Perhaps the Massa treatment closed the deal.
Nancy did say she had the votes. Its just that some members didn’t know they were voting for it yet.
Oh yeah, and the Senate had better be the first to approve the sidebar. Otherwise, SUCKAS!
deep dark sinister lol
You can’t spell Stupak without S-T-U-P
This also could be just more feinting intended to try to wear Congress down.
Stupak is a phony and a fraud. This waffling only makes him look cheap and stupid. Perhaps the side-bar he’s talking about is the place where he get’s his scotch.
Stupe-ak had a chance to defund Planned Parenthood and he voted against defunding! I just hope the other pro-life Dims have the courage of their convictions and vote no on this monstrosity that will include payment for abortion.
Not to be Pollyanna but if you read the entire article, this sounds very involved and difficult. The Senate rejected the Stupak amendment the first time around and Durbin said last week that there are not the votes in the Senate for it. I’m not so sure the Senate will agree to this, and they may have to, up front, to give Stupak cover to vote for this ungodly thing.
No way in hell a separate anti-abortion bill would make it through the senate. There’s no way Stupak is this stupid, or maybe he thinks the public won’t realize that and he can set himself up as “trying”?
You cannot do this on reconciliation. This is far beyond the Senate bill and reconciliation is not available. sorry.
Bought and SOLD!
It seems to me they are being required to vote for it, they just have to find the best excuse they can and they only have a few weeks to find it.
I wonder what, if anything, Stupak got for selling out?
How is he a traitor? He's a socialist who voted for the first 0bamacare bill. It isn't shocking that he'd vote for the second or any other such bill that comes down the pike.
Did anyone ever think from day one that Stupak or the rest of these Democrat “moderates” and “pro-lifes” were not going to vote FOR the Pelosi healthcare bill?
Democrats have no principles - without exception. Any one of them with moral fiber was long ago forced out of their party - ask Zell Miller.
He was pretending to be concerned about murdering little babies.
I’m probably crazy, but I think that Stupak and several other Rats are playing as if undecided so they don’t get the withering pressure from Pelosi, Rahm, and Obama. But I also think that they are hoping to keep their jobs in November and know this will kill about 1/3 of them. So as we get real close to a vote, probably a few weeks away, this bill may “almost” get over the top before failing or being indefinitely delayed.
If Pelosi had the votes right now, we’d have a vote right now. If she was just a few bribes away from her number she would be touting a vote next week. But Steney Hoyer is saying for Pelosi that the vote is probably a few weeks away and several House leaders are telling the White House that Obama is not helping by trying to put deadlines on the process—a process that he obviously does not and can not control.
Pro-Lifers have a good right to be skeptical. Any "sidebar" bill will be only to provide Stupak cover, when he votes for 0bamascare. Later, when that "sidebar" is ignored he can feign outrage.
when I hear the Catholic Bishops are having secret negotiations with the Obama Administration over sidebar abortion language, I get REALLY skeptical
Cover his lying ass time for little Miss Stupak!
Bingo. This is just political cover. So he gets his “no more money for abortions” bill through the House. Then it goes to the Senate where it is aborted; killed before birth. How ironic.
Don't they understand that you can't make a deal with the devil and win?
Just as I predicted — Stupak has been bought.
I don’t trust Massa for a second, but I believe he was made an example of — and others, like Stupak, have taken note — and changed their tunes.
The man is a FRAUD he supports funding for the major performer of abortion in the USA, Planned Parenthood.
This butthole supports funding of Planned Parenthood...the major performer of abortions in the USA.
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