Skip to comments.Israel exerts sovereign right to its capital as Biden looks on astounded
Posted on 03/10/2010 5:48:53 AM PST by rhema
In the midst of a high-profile visit by Vice President Joe Biden, Israel on Tuesday unveiled plans for new housing in disputed Jerusalem, a surprise step that embarrassed and angered the highest-ranking Obama administration official yet to visit the country.
Biden, who had come to promote new peace talks and to smooth the Obama administration's strained relations with a longtime ally, instead denounced Israel's plans to build 1,600 new housing units in East Jerusalem as a threat to the search for peace.
"I condemn the decision by the government of Israel to advance planning for new housing units in East Jerusalem," Biden said, calling it "precisely the kind of step that undermines the trust we need right now."
"We must build an atmosphere to support negotiations, not complicate them," Biden said.
The sharp turn of events abruptly changed the tenor of the trip in its second day, coming just hours after the vice president proclaimed his love for Israel and declared enduring U.S. support. Biden's visit followed a year of tension brought on by Israel's defiance of the Obama administration's admonitions on precisely the same issue: housing settlements in disputed areas.
In Washington, the White House added its own criticism. But it was unclear how deeply the latest step by Israel would affect ties between the two countries, which have been strained by tensions over the Jewish state's hardline security measures.
Aides said Biden raised the issue with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at a dinner given in honor of the vice president's visit. U.S. officials have repeatedly warned Israel that such development in Jerusalem would anger Palestinians and further threaten prospects for peace.
Biden is to deliver a major address on U.S.-Israeli relations on Thursday. He will also meet with Palestinian and Jordanian officials.
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Biden and his entourage should pack their bags and leave in the night without paying their hotel bill.
“stand up Chuck” Biden — what a dunce.
Some Jews I know are “secular” jews—that is not religious ones.
They are every bit as secularly murderous as marx or lenin was (both jews)
Joe “ho” Biden has to be one of the dumbest individuals on this planet by far.
Well Joe, just like your boss won, Israel won against the Arabs. They can damn well build where they like.
It is not known if Biden can actually read.
.. Lenin was a Jew? That’s something new..
Oh, I have been informed. Thanks.
Certainly. Lenin was of mixed ancestry but definitely had jewish ancestry on his father’s side I think. The point is that MOST of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were of Jewish ethnicity...but not religious jews -— the other horrible kind.
Israel has never been condemned by anyone before. I hope they can handle this disappointment. /s
So only his Jewish etnicity had anything to do with his actions. Not the Russian, Moldavian, etcetera background? I then have to ask what your point is..
Guess they dont really need sanctions either, since God is on their side.
Well... here's what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob says about it... and what's going to happen. Sanctions or not -- it's not going to make any difference. It's the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is the One who decides how this turns out... :-)
This is the Gog/Magog War of Ezekiel 38/39, which consists of a Russian confederation of other Islamic nations, which go to attack and destroy Israel. Iran is one of those in that confederation.
Ezekiel Chapter 38 14 "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, 'Thus says the Lord God: "On that day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it? 15 Then you will come from your place out of the far north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. 16 You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes." 17 Thus says the Lord God: "Are you he of whom I have spoken in former days by My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied for years in those days that I would bring you against them? 18 "And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel," says the Lord God, "that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: 'Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, 20 so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.' 21 I will call for a sword against Gog throughout all My mountains," says the Lord God. "Every man's sword will be against his brother. 22 And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the Lord." ' Ezekiel Chapter 39 1 "And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, 'Thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal; 2 and I will turn you around and lead you on, bringing you up from the far north, and bring you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will knock the bow out of your left hand, and cause the arrows to fall out of your right hand. 4 You shall fall upon the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. 5 You shall fall on the open field; for I have spoken," says the Lord God. 6 And I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in security in the coastlands. Then they shall know that I am the Lord. 7 So I will make My holy name known in the midst of My people Israel, and I will not let them profane My holy name anymore. Then the nations shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel. 8 Surely it is coming, and it shall be done," says the Lord God. "This is the day of which I have spoken. 9 "Then those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and bucklers, the bows and arrows, the javelins and spears; and they will make fires with them for seven years. 10 They will not take wood from the field nor cut down any from the forests, because they will make fires with the weapons; and they will plunder those who plundered them, and pillage those who pillaged them," says the Lord God. 11 "It will come to pass in that day that I will give Gog a burial place there in Israel, the valley of those who pass by east of the sea; and it will obstruct travelers, because there they will bury Gog and all his multitude. Therefore they will call it the Valley of Hamon Gog. 12 For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land. 13 Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord God. 14 They will set apart men regularly employed, with the help of a search party, to pass through the land and bury those bodies remaining on the ground, in order to cleanse it. At the end of seven months they will make a search. 15 The search party will pass through the land; and when anyone sees a man's bone, he shall set up a marker by it, till the buriers have buried it in the Valley of Hamon Gog. 16 The name of the city will also be Hamonah. Thus they shall cleanse the land." ' 17 "And as for you, son of man, thus says the Lord God, 'Speak to every sort of bird and to every beast of the field: "Assemble yourselves and come; Gather together from all sides to My sacrificial meal Which I am sacrificing for you, A great sacrificial meal on the mountains of Israel, That you may eat flesh and drink blood. 18 You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, Drink the blood of the princes of the earth, Of rams and lambs, Of goats and bulls, All of them fatlings of Bashan. 19 You shall eat fat till you are full, And drink blood till you are drunk, At My sacrificial meal Which I am sacrificing for you. 20 You shall be filled at My table With horses and riders, With mighty men And with all the men of war," says the Lord God. 21 "I will set My glory among the nations; all the nations shall see My judgment which I have executed, and My hand which I have laid on them. 22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day forward. 23 The Gentiles shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity; because they were unfaithful to Me, therefore I hid My face from them. I gave them into the hand of their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. 24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I have dealt with them, and hidden My face from them." ' 25 "Therefore thus says the Lord God: 'Now I will bring back the captives of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name-- 26 after they have borne their shame, and all their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, when they dwelt safely in their own land and no one made them afraid. 27 When I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and I am hallowed in them in the sight of many nations, 28 then they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer. 29 And I will not hide My face from them anymore; for I shall have poured out My Spirit on the house of Israel,' says the Lord God."
Lol, too funny! Way to go Israel!
I know that there are some who don't believe what God says, but I'll take God at his Word when He says ,,,
Jeremiah 31:36-37 36 If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever. 37 Thus says the Lord: If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the Lord.
This is what God says about Israel...
Ezekiel 37:21-28 21 Then say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God. 24 David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. 25 Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their childrens children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28 The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.
Jeremiah 31:31-37 31 Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord, for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more. 35 Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name): 36 If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever. 37 Thus says the Lord: If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the Lord.
Zechariah 14:2-21 2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south. 5 Then you shall flee through My mountain valley, For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the Lord my God will come, And all the saints with You.* 6 It shall come to pass in that day That there will be no light; The lights will diminish. 7 It shall be one day Which is known to the Lord Neither day nor night. But at evening time it shall happen That it will be light. 8 And in that day it shall be That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, Half of them toward the eastern sea And half of them toward the western sea; In both summer and winter it shall occur. 9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be The Lord is one,* And His name one. 10 All the land shall be turned into a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem. Jerusalem* shall be raised up and inhabited in her place from Benjamins Gate to the place of the First Gate and the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananeel to the kings winepresses. 11 The people shall dwell in it; And no longer shall there be utter destruction, But Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited. 12 And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths. 13 It shall come to pass in that day That a great panic from the Lord will be among them. Everyone will seize the hand of his neighbor, And raise his hand against his neighbors hand; 14 Judah also will fight at Jerusalem. And the wealth of all the surrounding nations Shall be gathered together: Gold, silver, and apparel in great abundance. 15 Such also shall be the plague On the horse and the mule, On the camel and the donkey, And on all the cattle that will be in those camps. So shall this plague be. 16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 20 In that day HOLINESS TO THE LORD shall be engraved on the bells of the horses. The pots in the Lords house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the Lord of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.*
“Nobody messes with Joe”
Couldn’t you just have posted “This reminds me of Zechariah 14” instead of copy and pasting a significant portion of the Old Testament?
Unless you wrote that from memory, in which case I’ll shut my mouth.
I think Israel is being a tad too subtle for this administration.
Umm, I did not send this to you...
No, you and I just got pinged at the same post. Sorry.
Couldnt you just have posted This reminds me of Zechariah 14 instead of copy and pasting a significant portion of the Old Testament?
Yeah, I could have done that... like saying...
"This reminds me of the passages in Jeremiah (31:31-37) , Ezekiel (37:21-28) and Zechariah (14:2-21), where God says He will gather Israel out of the nations, into their land, once again, despite their transgressions and that they will be a nation before God, forevermore, and rule over all the other nations of the world."
But, many people can't even find Jeremiah, Ezekiel and/or Zechariah in the Bible, much less find the Bible (somewhere around the house, doncha know... LOL...). And even if they could, they probably would never read it.
AND ... the thing is ... God says it so much better than me... :-)
LOL, That is one small room!
Umm, I did not send this to you...
Ummmm... the "methodology" of Free Republic... the first person is the object of the post, the second, third, and so on, people are the "pingees" in the post... :-)
here is a 29 second clip of his “brilliance”
And I gar-un-tee that none of those folks read past the first two words of your post. Doesn't change the fact that I still like you if for nothing else than watching you get under peoples skin.
LOL ..., oh well...
But, it’s also good to have God’s Word showing forth to the world, even where some readers (and in various parts of the world, perhaps a Muslim country), will see God’s purpose with Israel, as they stumble across it in a thread here and there.
AND... that reminds me... of something about the New Testament. I have read that almost 100% of the New Testament could be reconstructed (if we ever lost extant copies of it) simply from the quotes of the New Testament that writers have included in their own writings and commentaries, over the centuries.
So..., I’m doing my part to preserve the Scriptures... :-) [as if God needed any help.. huh? ...]
Thanks, I forgot about that one.
Go back and read the thread genius.
Dizzying, just dizzying...
Israel trust this administration at your own peril.
There. Fixed it.
The first casualty of politics is logic.
Klutzes are meant to be astounded.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
Astounded, get with the program, Joe. Or flippity flop.
Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided
Barack Hussein Obama, 6-6-08
Biden's initial condemnation elicited laughter from both God and His people.
"I condemn the decision by the illegitimate Federal government of America to advance planning for new unconstitutional usurpations from Washington DC", God responded, condemning Biden and his Unnamed Master to an eternity of burning introspection.
Stand up Chutzpah!
Oh, what was I thinking? Everybody stand up for Chutzpah...
Coming soon to a Meggido near you...
But we should be glad that we won't be here when it does.
"It's sad that Israel must continually pretend to negotiate in good faith with ignorant savages raised from the womb to desire their extermination."
But part of the problem is that 2/3 of the Israeli have no more desire to please the Lord than those savages. This goes back to the day they left Egypt and crossed the Red sea.
As for Biden..BIBI made it perfectly to obama... this last summer.. his policy on settlements. So Bidens show of surprise was hardly news to him..however it was a direct slap in the face to obama for even considering sending Biden to chit chat about “permission” from the US for anything Israel determines concerning Iran.
Bo is such a lamebrain concerning international affairs.... I image his “present” as senetor was because he didn’t have the intellect to figure things out....no matter what others are saying in how smart he was suppose to be....he has proved very much otherwise.
Agreed, but unfortunately for them the savages don't distinguish between the faithful and the foolish.
Wonder what Hillary thinks of him doing her job?
“Jews” participated disproportionately and decisively in the incipient Bolshevik regime.
That is a fact. But I also reiterate that no religious Jew did. Just as no religious Chrstians participated in the Nazi atrocities. In fact the overwhelming numbers of murdered Christians as opposed to other populations of faith testifie to that fact both during WWI and during the Soviet era.
Introspection? Your magnanimity is showing. I think you're giving Biden waaay too much credit.
Great YouTube - new We the People and a foreword by Alan
Still trying to centralize three laptops onto a new one so a bit lax on postings. Getting there and some new information on Ali Pahlavi, who we have titled “ali-mentary canal exit” Prince.