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'It's the Magna Carta of physics!'
Daily Mail ^ | 10:53 AM on 10th March 2010 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 03/12/2010 2:23:20 PM PST by Niuhuru

The original manuscript of Albert Einstein's groundbreaking theory of relativity has gone on display in its entirety for the first time.

Einstein's 46-page handwritten explanation of his general theory of relativity is being shown at the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities in Jerusalem as part of its 50th anniversary celebration.

In the manuscript, which helps explain everything from black holes to the Big Bang and contains the famous equation of E=MC², Einstein demonstrates an expanding universe and shows how gravity can bend space and time.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alberteinstein; einstein; genius; israel; jerusalem; stringtheory
Cool, cool, cool.
1 posted on 03/12/2010 2:23:20 PM PST by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

“contains the famous equation of E=MC²”

Not true, that equation does not appear in the theory of General Relativity or in any other of Einstein’s writings, but is in fact easily derived from another Einstein paper “Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?”.


2 posted on 03/12/2010 2:48:08 PM PST by ThirdMate
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To: Niuhuru
Actually I think he expressed it as E=mc² for quite awhile, then simplified it for publication.
3 posted on 03/12/2010 2:49:05 PM PST by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: Niuhuru
I heard Werner Heisenberg doodled the uncertainty principle on a cocktail napkin (which was subsequently removed by an over-zealous waitress), and Paul Dirac wrote out the behaviour of fermions in the snow with...well, the original work was destroyed by spring.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

4 posted on 03/12/2010 2:51:43 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Niuhuru

There are still only a handful of people that really understand what Einstein was all about.


5 posted on 03/12/2010 3:06:35 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Niuhuru
With all due respect to a great man, Einstein was first and foremost, a mathematician. Under his influence, the study of Physics changed from one of empirical testing and observation, to one whose theories were being “proven” mathematically. This has set us back at least a hundred years in our learning of how the universe works. Einstein's work towards nuclear energy was great, but it falls short of explaining the universe

His Theory of Relativity (ToR) is a case in point: You should suspect there's something basically wrong when observed phenomena don't fit what the theory says, and physicists keep having to come up with new “fixes” (like “Dark Matter”) to make the theory seem to work.

Prior to Einstein, physicists were starting to explore electrical/magnetic phenomena as the primary forces in the cosmos. While such adherents of an electrical-based universe fell out of favor after the bomb was invented, they never completely died out. Today, with “Relativity” having more and more trouble explaining what we see and measure, physicists are reexamining the electric theory. They're finding that it not only explains/predicts what the ToR does, but also nicely explains the nasty problems that plague Einstein's theory.

For those who say that math models reality, so there's no problem with a math-based theory:

Consider the bumblebee; all modern mathematical models of aerodynamics PROVE it cannot fly. However, the bumblebee, being ignorant of the mathematics of aerodynamics, flys merrily on its way!

6 posted on 03/12/2010 3:07:49 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: ThirdMate

Its in his 1912 Manuscript on the Special Theory of Relativity.


7 posted on 03/12/2010 3:15:35 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: The Comedian

I once calculated the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything in the palm of my hand. Unfortunately, all the calculations and proof were erased by my dog licking my hand, but I remember the answer was 42. I just can’t remember the equations.

;>D


8 posted on 03/12/2010 3:45:08 PM PST by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: Don Corleone
There are still only a handful of people that really understand what Einstein was all about.

"Maybe Einstein was one of them."

9 posted on 03/12/2010 3:51:00 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Niuhuru

His work is an affirmation that all cultures are of equal value.

(wink, wink, snort)


10 posted on 03/12/2010 3:57:26 PM PST by 353FMG (What can Islam possibly contribute to the West other than its very destruction?)
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To: Don Corleone
There are still only a handful of people that really understand what Einstein was all about.

Maybe my problem was that I had a 500 page book instead of 46 page manuscript! I really don't understand much of anything about general relativity. Special relativity is pretty trivial though.

ML/NJ

11 posted on 03/12/2010 3:59:59 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

With all due respect, your post contained more errors about Einstein, relativity and physics in general than I would have thought possible in such a short space.

A few corrections:

-Einstein was, first and foremost, a physicist who had a uniquely intuitive understanding of the concepts his theories explained. He was merely an adequate mathematician.

-Einstein’s work has not set physics back.

-Einstein’s work was only tangentially related to nuclear energy. It was primarily related to explaining how real objects actually behave.

-Much of his work greatly advanced our understanding of how the universe works.

-He came up with two separate and independent theories of relativity. Special and General.

-Relativity is not one of the universal forces and his relativity theories did not cause a lapse in work on electromagnetic force theories. Electromagnetism and Relativity are not in competition.

-No scientists claim any theory is valid without extensive and compelling physical evidence. With only math to back it up there is no theory and all good scientists agree with this.

-There are no “modern mathematical models of aerodynamics” that “prove” a bumblebee “cannot fly”.

Those things you cited are all something like urban legends of science and keep getting repeated by non-scientists. They are nonsense.


12 posted on 03/12/2010 4:59:00 PM PST by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
Today, with “Relativity” having more and more trouble explaining what we see and measure, physicists are reexamining the electric theory

Not really sure where you're getting this from. Everything I have read points to the opposite. General relativity may be incomplete, however, there are dozens of different experimental proofs to support it, including lensing and redshift experiments. Here is the most recent example from 2 days ago:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100310-einstein-theory-general-relativity-gravity-dark-matter-proof/

13 posted on 03/12/2010 5:02:15 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: spinestein
-Einstein was, first and foremost, a physicist who had a uniquely intuitive understanding of the concepts his theories explained. He was merely an adequate mathematician.

I agree with this in general, but his "inituitive understanding" was not physical intuition, such as Faraday had of the electric field, but a very deeply considered philosophical perspective. His paper, "On the electrodynamics of moving bodies" was based on the philosophical conviction that Maxwell's equations should be the same for all inertial reference frames.

His ideas for General Relativity grew from his belief in the Principle of Equivalence, and a careful consideration of its implications. He looked around for the math to implement his ideas, realized that Riemannian Geometry was it, and put himself to school in it. I think he was a little better than "adequate" at it, though!

-He came up with two separate and independent theories of relativity. Special and General.

GR is based on SR at its foundation. SR applies in locally inertial frames which are patched together using Riemannian methods into a globally curved space-time continuum.

14 posted on 03/12/2010 7:32:14 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: ItsForTheChildren
"Maybe Einstein was one of them."

Aye, there's the rub; "Maybe Einstein was NOT one of them."

15 posted on 03/12/2010 7:50:44 PM PST by cliff630
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To: RebelTex

Fenchurch? Is that you?


16 posted on 03/12/2010 7:54:41 PM PST by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: ctdonath2
ROTFLOL Sorry, I'm The Book, heheh. Nowhere but on FR would I find anyone else that has seen "HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy", lol. This is for you: Finding Fenny

:>)

17 posted on 03/12/2010 8:56:38 PM PST by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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Albert Einstein’s original theory of relativity manuscript
goes on display for the first time
dailymail.co.uk | March 9, 2010 | Daily Mail Reporter
Posted on 03/09/2010 8:24:24 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2467686/posts


18 posted on 03/12/2010 8:59:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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19 posted on 03/12/2010 8:59:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: camerakid400
Not really sure where you're getting this from.

Heh.

20 posted on 03/12/2010 10:53:48 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: RebelTex

O...M...G... for what it is, that was amazing. And now I have to waste the rest of the weekend watching every other H2G2 item on YouTube.

Seen H2G2? Heck, I had the original radio program memorized at one point (all 6 hours), read the books several times, read the scripts, seen both the BBC and movie versions, and drop obscure quotes from it on a regular basis.

“We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!”
“It hung in the air much like bricks don’t.”
“I never did get the hang of Thursdays...”


21 posted on 03/13/2010 10:48:30 AM PST by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: ctdonath2

LOL

I’ll bet you have also seen every episode of ‘Dr. Who’ and ‘Are You Being Served?’. (I’m physically Mr. Grace, but I think I’m Dr. Who, LOL.)

How about ‘Yes, Minister’, ‘Fawlty Towers’, ‘Benny Hill’, and ‘Monty Python’?


22 posted on 03/13/2010 12:15:00 PM PST by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

“With all due respect to a great man, Einstein was first and foremost, a mathematician.”

That is incorrect. Albert Einstein was a brilliant physicist who figured things out without math through his legendary thought experiments; and then got help from his mathematician friends such as Marcel Grossmann and Tullio Levi-Civita to turn his ideas into rigorous theories.


23 posted on 03/13/2010 12:30:53 PM PST by devere
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To: spinestein; devere; camerakid400
Do a search for “Electric Universe”

The Bumblebee story is NOT an urban-legend.

Einstein was a mathematician that later got into physics.

24 posted on 03/13/2010 3:07:54 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


25 posted on 03/13/2010 3:48:03 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

It actually is a myth.

“The rumor probably started in the 1930s with students of the noted aerodynamicist Ludwig Prandtl at Göttingen,” she said. “That was a time when we were just beginning to think we understood aerodynamic principles, as applied to fixed-wing aircraft, but scientists recognized their limitations in applying the principles to the birds and insects and other creatures in the natural world.

“I’m sure no one, including the bees, seriously doubted that insects can fly,” she said. “Now we’re beginning to understand why.”

http://www.news.cornell.edu/chronicle/00/3.30.00/insect_flight.html


26 posted on 03/13/2010 4:32:20 PM PST by camerakid400
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