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The Healthcare Bill Would Be Obama’s ‘Enabling Act’
BigGovernment.com ^ | March 13, 2010 | Michael Zak

Posted on 03/14/2010 3:36:45 AM PDT by Scanian

Why are Barack Obama and other Democrat leaders so intent on passing a government takeover of healthcare now…Now…NOW?

They must know that costs will rise and the quality of care will fall, right? They must know that Obamacare would destroy the economy, right? Of course they do. But, they also know that the federal government would tighten its grip on the nation. They know that Obama’s czars and other appointees would be authorized to bypass Congress in enacting sweeping regulations on nearly every aspect of a person’s life. And, they know that these new powers of the federal government would be concentrated in the hands of the Democratic Party and the President.

Here’s what else they know. History affords many examples of regimes whose motto was “Never let a crisis go to waste.” In 1933, having campaigned for “hope” and “change,” the National Socialist Worker’s Party forced through the German parliament a Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Nation, also known as the Enabling Act.

This new law enabled the German chancellor and his appointees to bypass parliament in imposing sweeping regulations on the people:

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1 posted on 03/14/2010 3:36:45 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
It's a power grab alright. It will completely change our entire understanding of rights in law and in society.

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


2 posted on 03/14/2010 3:42:39 AM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Scanian
"his new law enabled the German chancellor and his appointees to bypass parliament in imposing sweeping regulations on the people......... " ----

Sweeping regulations are coming. Let's hope House Democrats don't fall in with Nancy Pelosi, The Countess Democratula, and the other fascists to complete the devilish deal.

3 posted on 03/14/2010 3:58:24 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (We have to pass the Healthcare Bill so you can find out what's in it.)
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To: Scanian

OMG the SKY IS FALLING!!


4 posted on 03/14/2010 3:58:24 AM PDT by world weary
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To: world weary

Is that supposed to be humorous?


5 posted on 03/14/2010 3:59:23 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (We have to pass the Healthcare Bill so you can find out what's in it.)
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To: world weary

Rahm? That you?...


6 posted on 03/14/2010 4:00:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: TigersEye

My mother in law’s hearing aid cost the MEDICARE program $3,000. It got chewed up by a dog, and was ‘easily’ replaced for another $3,000. I wondeded how on the REAL Market they can sell a LAPTOP, with memory cards, wireless connections, hard drive, mother board..for $699 NEW, which has a lot MORE technology, and that small piece of plastic with a little microphone and speaker costs $3,000. When the gov’t BUYS, it causes the whole market system tends to break down. We get LESS for our money, and it costs EVERYONE more. Doctors would like to HEAL and do procedure, but their days are spent filling our reports, doing meaningless, endless trivial requirements.


7 posted on 03/14/2010 4:01:56 AM PDT by rovenstinez (All)
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To: ICAB9USA; Cringing Negativism Network
What I'm getting at (or was trying to get at) is that I'm getting rather fed up with seeing nothing but health care crap when really the substance of the article is just what I commented.

Trying to find actual news is becoming a challange.

8 posted on 03/14/2010 4:08:50 AM PDT by world weary
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To: world weary

So your gripe is the constant bogus Saul Alinsky tactics of the left, to make everything an emergency and a “crisis” which only the left and government can solve by more laws, and more spending?

The “crisis of the day” crap which dates back to the days of Bill Clinton?

The propaganda which our so-called media willingly parrots?

Just checking.


9 posted on 03/14/2010 4:12:33 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
The “crisis of the day” crap which dates back to the days of Bill Clinton?The propaganda which our so-called media willingly parrots?

It dates back to far before Bill Clinton my FRiend, and its not unique to either side. That's what I'm getting at.

10 posted on 03/14/2010 4:16:42 AM PDT by world weary
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To: world weary
"Trying to find actual news is becoming a challange." ----

Real news is all over the place here at FR. Dig in.

For instance check out all the excellent info on the CA scam artist who last week faked his Prius speeding out of control. FoxNews is just getting around to exposing the fraud right now on tv.

However (as you intone) who knows if SeeBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, etc. will ever get around to telling the truth on the matter.

11 posted on 03/14/2010 4:18:20 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (We have to pass the Healthcare Bill so you can find out what's in it.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So your gripe is the constant bogus Saul Alinsky tactics of the left, to make everything an emergency and a “crisis” which only the left and government can solve by more laws, and more spending?

The “crisis of the day” crap which dates back to the days of Bill Clinton?

The propaganda which our so-called media willingly parrots?

Just checking.

........ good questions.

12 posted on 03/14/2010 4:20:17 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (We have to pass the Healthcare Bill so you can find out what's in it.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Rahm? That you?...

..... Naked Rahm wants you.

;-)

13 posted on 03/14/2010 4:21:08 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (We have to pass the Healthcare Bill so you can find out what's in it.)
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To: Scanian

Dont worry we will be able to read and see whats in the health bill before the President signs it, Obama himself promised it to be so. He wouldn’t lie.


14 posted on 03/14/2010 4:21:36 AM PDT by bikerman (Buck Farack)
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To: world weary

So what does “it’s not unique to either side” mean exactly?

When George W Bush explained that fundamentalist terrorists were trying to destroy America, and the media covered that, was that what you’re referring to?

I’m trying to remember when exactly, the media parroted any Republican for any big-government, more-rules agenda.

Can you please be more specific?


15 posted on 03/14/2010 4:21:47 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: rovenstinez

Great post. You said it all.


16 posted on 03/14/2010 4:22:23 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (We have to pass the Healthcare Bill so you can find out what's in it.)
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To: ICAB9USA

Yesssssssssss!!!

When a reference to 1933 is posted - this article is required reading.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2470469/posts


17 posted on 03/14/2010 4:36:21 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I've only got to go back about 8 years to the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, a huge new federal level department that added many new layers of administration to an already bloated tangle of organizations.

DHS was implemented on Nov 25, 2002, during a time when the Republican party had control of not only congress, but also the presidency. Many news organizations (CNN, CBS among others) rarely said anything contrary to the creation of this new huge expansion of the Federal Government. This also was the same time that the constitution shredding PATRIOT act was passed.

Both sides use Crisis to get what they want done, the people are scared and look for leadership, so when someone says "lets do X" usually people go along with them if they think it will help. The tools of Politics don't change depending on what side of an aisle you sit on.

18 posted on 03/14/2010 4:40:51 AM PDT by world weary
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To: world weary

Yea! Just another tool fool.


19 posted on 03/14/2010 4:54:31 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Scanian
In addition to the procedure prescribed by the constitution, laws of the Reich may also be enacted by the government of the Reich [i.e., the Cabinet].”

This is somewhat the thing that Bambi is already doing by having regulatory agencies make and enforce broad policies controlling the lives of citizens. However, the "health care" act would take this up to a whole different level and would indeed have effects very similar to the Enabling Act, particularly if it is passed with one of the highly unconstitutional procedures that are being discussed.

20 posted on 03/14/2010 5:00:09 AM PDT by livius
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