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Israel Envoy: U.S. Ties at Their Worst in 35 years
Haaretz ^ | 3/15/10 | Barak Ravid

Posted on 03/15/2010 12:33:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Israel's ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, has told the country's diplomats there that U.S.-Israeli relations face their worst crisis in 35 years, despite attempts by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office to project a sense of "business as usual""

Oren was speaking to Israeli consuls general in a conference call on Saturday night. Sunday, Netanyahu continued to consult with the forum of seven senior cabinet ministers over a list of demands that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made in a telephone conversation Friday.

Clinton harshly criticized the announcement last week of plans to expand the Ramat Shlomo neighborhood in East Jerusalem while U.S. Vice President Joe Biden was visiting Israel. Advertisement

Haaretz has learned that Clinton's list includes at least four steps the United States expects Netanyahu to carry out to restore confidence in bilateral relations and permit the resumption of peace talks with the Palestinians.

1. Investigate the process that led to the announcement of the Ramat Shlomo construction plans in the middle of Biden's visit. The Americans seek an official response from Israel on whether this was a bureaucratic mistake or a deliberate act carried out for political reasons. Already on Saturday night, Netanyahu announced the convening of a committee to look into the issue.

2. Reverse the decision by the Jerusalem District Planning and Building Committee to approve construction of 1,600 new housing units in Ramat Shlomo.

3. Make a substantial gesture toward the Palestinians enabling the renewal of peace talks. The Americans suggested that hundreds of Palestinian prisoners be released, that the Israel Defense Forces withdraw from additional areas of the West Bank and transfer them to Palestinian control, that the siege of the Gaza Strip be eased and further roadblocks in the West Bank be removed.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: israel; middleeast; plugsbiden; ramatshlomo; unitedstates; waronterror

1 posted on 03/15/2010 12:33:56 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

silly Jews...obama knows best.....


2 posted on 03/15/2010 12:43:18 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: rrrod

l o l


3 posted on 03/15/2010 12:44:18 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: nickcarraway

How could Obama be wrong when 78% of Jewish voters in the last election supported him; the irony being that percentage won’t change much come the next election.


4 posted on 03/15/2010 12:46:25 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland ( schmuckie schucks)
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To: nickcarraway

5 posted on 03/15/2010 12:50:07 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: nickcarraway
Obama is going out of it's way to discard every ally the US ever had. England, our best ally is angry at Obama’s antics as well.
6 posted on 03/15/2010 12:51:33 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: nickcarraway

Bibi to Hillary “pound sand”


7 posted on 03/15/2010 12:53:43 AM PDT by Atchafalaya (Atchafalaya Basin; when you're there , thats the best)
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To: SpaceBar

Good one, made me laugh.
A.


8 posted on 03/15/2010 12:55:33 AM PDT by Atchafalaya (Atchafalaya Basin; when you're there , thats the best)
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To: highlander_UW

Obama is an excellent diplunat:

Obama’s Outstanding Record of Dip-lunacy [several headlines and links]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2470815/posts?page=3


9 posted on 03/15/2010 2:01:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: nickcarraway

..."send crazy Uncle Joe over.he'll straighten it out, nobody messes with Joe...oh wait he went didn't he?....geeez their running out of creditable people to send"

10 posted on 03/15/2010 3:10:04 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: nickcarraway

Release prisoners, and give up more territory. Why sure. Works everytime it’s tried. That is, if the goal is give the terrorists more incentive to attack you.


11 posted on 03/15/2010 3:14:27 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: nickcarraway

35 years? 35 years...35 years...what Administration could possibly have had worse ties with Israel?

It just escapes me.


12 posted on 03/15/2010 3:33:48 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: nickcarraway

This is all a setup by the Obama admin so that the Israelis have to come running back to him with some “goodies”, such as concessions to the Palis to make nice nice.


13 posted on 03/15/2010 3:40:29 AM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: JohnLongIsland
How could Obama be wrong when 78% of Jewish voters in the last election supported him; the irony being that percentage won’t change much come the next election.

You know, I am curious why every Israel thread has a comment like this. What is the point? Obama has a 4% popularity in Israel. He is overwhelmingly dispised there. So, why does American Jewry's liberal slant get mentioned each time?

It sounds almost like "blame the victim." So, let's get this clear: Jews didn't deserve the first Holocaust, and they won't deserve the one that is on the horizon, even if they had voted for Hussein. But to the point: Israelis didn't vote for for him. Americans did.
14 posted on 03/15/2010 4:16:22 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: nickcarraway
Perhaps it is time for Israel to redress the power balance with the US. Instead of trying to appease Obama and his fellow travelers, Israel could explain a series of increasingly confrontation and military steps that would be taken against the Palestinians, Southern Lebanon Syria and Iran if the US persists in its actions.
15 posted on 03/15/2010 4:17:54 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Tzfat

Every Israel thread has a comment like that because its pertinent.

Its not some crypto-setup for the “Jews deserving it”. It simply displays the colossal divide between American Jews and reality.

See also: the black vote and Margaret Sanger/eugenics threads.


16 posted on 03/15/2010 5:04:48 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: nickcarraway

The Obama administration has adopted the position now of being the defacto (sp?) representative of the Palestinians and Israel is on its own. Union thuggery at its best!


17 posted on 03/15/2010 5:11:52 AM PDT by Old Badger (boy do opportunities abound everywhere for Real Conservatives!)
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To: nickcarraway

That is because we have the worst President ever!!!! Yes Obama you SUCK!!!!!


18 posted on 03/15/2010 5:12:05 AM PDT by GregB (I am a broken glass supporter of Sarah Palin.)
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To: Tzfat

You could argue left and right , but the facts are the facts.


19 posted on 03/15/2010 5:15:21 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland ( schmuckie schucks)
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To: Old Badger

......The Obama administration has adopted the position now of being the defacto (sp?) representative of the Palestinians ......

That is not strictly true. The Brown Clown has a position that is perceived as elevating himself. He is attempting to promote himself by adopting methods that have been obsolete for at least ten years.

Ok, you said de facto. That is an apparent result but self help is his driving reason. The lord must be obeyed is his thought. He is lord


20 posted on 03/15/2010 5:26:31 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: rrrod
silly Jews...obama knows best.....

And Hillary isn't too fond of you, either.

21 posted on 03/15/2010 5:50:13 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Tzfat

“You know, I am curious why every Israel thread has a comment like this. What is the point? Obama has a 4% popularity in Israel. He is overwhelmingly dispised there. So, why does American Jewry’s liberal slant get mentioned each time?”

Well said, but one does have to appreciate the irony of the left slant American Jews have...it just seems illogical as can be.


22 posted on 03/15/2010 5:51:11 AM PDT by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: nickcarraway

So the Muslims can kill bus loads of Israeli school children without fear of reprisal from the US, but Israel building homes on their own land is an act of war??? What a crazy world we live in...our country’s present admin being one of the more insane ones.


23 posted on 03/15/2010 5:53:08 AM PDT by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Wpin
Our world is crazy, upside down and really doing insane things and this is not new.

Much of it has been/is a step by step, and incremental, gradual erosion of what made our nation strong, prosperous, bastion of freedom, and liberty; and blessed. Much of it has gone on largely unnoticed, in our school curriculum,in the inundation of uncontrolled immigration, enlargement of welfare and entitlement programs. They have moved quickly during times of crisis, civil rights, etc. Once our rights began to written down, things that were always our free will rights began to not be rights anymore.

Two major things are the avenues traveled over and over. Get a bill that sounds good. IE child protection agencies for example. Soon it powers expand and keep on expanding until today they wield great power. Any legislation once began can ever expand and encroach on all kinds of unintended areas.

The second avenue is budgets. Same story ... it is an ever increasing need and demand for bigger and bigger budgets.

In the beginning when Obama wanted a health care bill on his desk before August 2009. He asked for even a slip of a bill. It didn't happen. In order to agree to one it had to have thousands of earmarks before the members of the Congress would turn a bill out as approved by the respective branch.

Horrific theft, Unconstitutional, bankrupting divisions of the National budget,ever escalating.

God help us, inn our day, in Jesus name, amen.

Simply plain old thumbing their collective noses at the people and what the people want, expect, demand, and are protesting to stop.

“WE are days away from the fundamental changing of America.”

Stimulus Bill, bank bailouts, AIG bailout, GMC acquisition and huge bailout,Loss of millioms of jobs. Many frivolous projects in Stimulus Bill and adding little of importance to the job market. Brainwashing our children. It is pervasive and evil. MO He told us. Wealth distribution, green power, national security force as well armed as our army,Cap and Trade, stop drilling, stop )kill) the coal industry, raise taxes,HEALTHCARE, HEALTHCARE, HEALTHCARE!!! U. N.. INTERNATIONAL LAW. U.N..world tax. ETC. ETC

It is all coming. Seize large tracts of land across America declared to be set aside for ??? parks? HA!

He did not say He intended to bankrupt and cause the fall of America ... Are you surprised that is what he is doing..

HE HAD A GREEK TEMPLE BUILT FOR HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEECH after the run off with Hillary. Egotist to the nth degree.

24 posted on 03/15/2010 8:28:08 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: agere_contra
Every Israel thread has a comment like that because its pertinent.

Is it? American Jews are not Israelis.
25 posted on 03/15/2010 11:01:07 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: JohnLongIsland
You could argue left and right , but the facts are the facts.

But your comment was irrelevent. American Jews are not Israelis. Israeli Jews are more against Obama than non-Jewish Americans. A 4% approval rating for Obama among 100% of Israelis puts Americans to shame.
26 posted on 03/15/2010 11:05:12 AM PDT by Tzfat
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