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Breaking: Excerpts from Reconciliation Bill
Speaker of the House ^ | 3/15/2010 | Nancy Pelosi

Posted on 03/15/2010 1:36:23 AM PDT by Notwithstanding

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To: DBrow

IIRC it applies to the Amish community.


41 posted on 03/15/2010 6:22:05 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: TomGuy; All
Peter Johnson, Jr., commentator on FoxNews just said this morning [3-15-10, abt 7:25 a.m. CT] that there is no bill to examine yet.

My reply from the other thread:

After talking about bait & switch and the states' sweetheart deals, Alisyn asked--how can we read about this, how can they hide this in the bill? Peter said--you can't hide it because there is no bill to read at this point...there is no CBO determination at this point. That's what I mean by "bait & switch." We'll know for sure when we see a piece of paper with the President's bill.
43 posted on 03/15/2010 6:31:15 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: sodpoodle

Maybe Amish, and Christian Scientists? The Muslims will probably claim applicability, here, too. Still, the relevant section does not seem to be in the bill. Maybe it’s an IRS code section?


44 posted on 03/15/2010 6:32:36 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: tobyhill

Sounds like they will be requiring healthcare providers to have LEED certified buildings. Millions of dollars to the ‘green jobs’ Obama promised.


45 posted on 03/15/2010 6:33:13 AM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: rintense

I just called my congressman about this crap. His office just said that they were unaware of this non-healthcare issue and it’s something he’s going to raise.


46 posted on 03/15/2010 6:37:34 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: rintense

“15 (2) GREEN SCHOOL REQUIREMENT”

It’s a lot more than the insurance buildings.


47 posted on 03/15/2010 6:39:21 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Just heard about that on Laura Ingraham. Michelle Malkin was on with her and they were on fire!


48 posted on 03/15/2010 6:52:42 AM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: tobyhill

This bill is full of pork!!!! The LEED certification will be promoted as the ‘job creation’ aspect of the bill.


49 posted on 03/15/2010 6:53:46 AM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: Notwithstanding
25 ‘‘(5) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION...recognized religious sect

If this bill passes, the Constitution is forfeit. Americans, we must stand up and fight them. With litigation, and physically if necessary. They will understand nothing else.

50 posted on 03/15/2010 7:16:41 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Notwithstanding

‘‘(5) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—

1227

1 ‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (a) shall
2 not apply to any individual (and any qualifying
3 child residing with such individual) for any pe
4 riod if such individual has in effect an exemp
5 tion which certifies that such individual is a
6 member of a recognized religious sect or divi
7 sion thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and
8 an adherent of established tenets or teachings
9 of such sect or division as described in such sec
10 tion.

11 ‘‘(B) EXEMPTION.—An application for the
12 exemption described in subparagraph (A) shall
13 be filed with the Secretary at such time and in
14 such form and manner as the Secretary may
15 prescribe. Any such exemption granted by the
16 Secretary shall be effective for such period as
17 the Secretary determines appropriate.


In other weords 85,000,000 Catholics MUST pay for ABORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!


51 posted on 03/15/2010 7:17:37 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: DBrow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

In 1961, the United States Internal Revenue Service announced that since the Amish refuse Social Security benefits and have a religious objection to insurance, they need not pay these taxes. In 1965, this policy was codified into law.[80] Self-employed individuals in certain sects do not pay into, nor receive benefits from, United States Social Security, nor do their similarly-exempt employees. Internal Revenue Service form 4029 grants this exemption to members of a religious group that is conscientiously opposed to accepting benefits of any private or public insurance, provides a reasonable level of living for its dependent members and has existed continuously since December 31, 1950.


52 posted on 03/15/2010 7:34:45 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/usc_sec_26_00001402——000-.html

it’s in the IRS code. The health care bill apparently neglected to reference it properly, or I missed the reference. In any case here it is.


53 posted on 03/15/2010 7:42:10 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: All

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/obamacare-reconciliation-bill-is-posted-contains-student-loan-takeover/


54 posted on 03/15/2010 7:49:43 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: Son House
Why did Obama waste all their time on a summit, if Democrats are insisting on using the old bill?

Exc4llent question, Son! An obvious exposure of Democrat deceit, and misdirection.

55 posted on 03/15/2010 7:53:49 AM PDT by CDB
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To: savedbygrace

You’re kidding right?


56 posted on 03/15/2010 7:54:27 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: Son House

I have called my two democract Represenitives from Ga. and voiced my concern over the Health Care Bill. They are both considered moderates and have voted No, when it has come up before. I was told there is no bill yet...So WTH. I’m really confused.


57 posted on 03/15/2010 7:54:56 AM PDT by kacres
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To: kacres

A lot of the “no bill yet” talk is the built-in cover releasing these bills at the last moment provides. Well the reconciliation bill text is out now and you can push them on that.


58 posted on 03/15/2010 7:58:28 AM PDT by KC Burke (...but He has made the trains run on time.)
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To: kacres; All

It’s my understanding that the actual ‘bill’ will not exist until they have passed the empty ‘shell’ of the ‘bill’. They plan to fill it with whatever they want after the vote...therefore, at this point, no bill exists. Anyone else understand it this way?


59 posted on 03/15/2010 8:21:05 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Marty62

Well, I will be happy to be the first plaintiff. I am not participating in any scheme in which my money pays into an insurance program that funds abortion, and I will claim this religious exemption.


60 posted on 03/15/2010 8:29:15 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
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