GOP Rules Chief Says Dems Can Pass Obamacare Without Actually Voting for It

CNSNews.com ^ | March 16, 2010 | Matt Cover

[Adder]

Yes except that Reid put thE phrase that this bill cannot be rescinded by any future Congress.

So the SCOTUS has to be at least one essential stop on the way to repeal, should this garbage actually pass.

[I heard this am that NaziP only has 200 votes. KEEP UP THE PRESSURE!!!!]

[greybull]

If the legislature operates under rules that are unlawful. They are outlaws. They are rebels in the guise of government Not only is this not law. There is NO law. It is a government of force not of law.
Conservatives need this wake up call to understand that there is nothing to conserve in Federal Government. We need to take up the more active task of Constitutional restoration. Conservatism is defense. We need offense.

[muawiyah]

You sound like a Democrat.

What do you imagine the Republican party is going to do now that you people left them without a majority in the House and Senate?

This is all your fault you know.

We will remember you.

[Man50D]

No one has stepped up to confront these animals yet... so unless something changes and revolt starts... the courts are it period.

The thousands of tea party rallies involving millions of people since last February were the start of a movement to defend the Constitution. It will only intensify given what has been happening over the past two weeks.

[Man50D]

Yes except that Reid put thE phrase that this bill cannot be rescinded by any future Congress.

Reid fails to understand the people are the government, not him or Congress.

[Brugmansian]

DFrier sounds like a surrender monkey. DC and the repubic party is replete with them

Doesn't to me. He's telling the truth: Democrats have a majority on the rules committee and can make up whatever rules they want. That is what should be said. Over and over. They are making the rules up.

[ExTexasRedhead]

The leadership of the GOP better find their gonads, like yesterday, and take this national disgrace to the American people. The Sleeping Giant is awake and not in a good mood.

The “in-your-face” arrogance of these power-hungry Elitists isn’t going over with anyone I talk to. How about you and your associates?

Everyone I talk to and everywhere I go, incumbent is the new profanity.

Spineless, gutless, Eunuchs within the GOP need not run for re-election. The Republican Party better find a new leader other than Michael Steele who, IMO, has no spine.

[LibLieSlayer]

Me a dim... not on your life. I HATE the bastards. I have been a republican activist since the 70’s. Just because I am pi$$ed at the republicans... and anyone other that a party hack is these days... does not make it right for you to attack me and call me names that you know that I am not. I support FR financially more than average and I post here every day and have for years and years. Those that know me... and Jimbo is one... would find your comment ridiculous. Disagree with me all that you wish... but do not attack me because we disagree about the pathetic party in DC.

What more could they do? All you need to do is ask your self this... if the dims... who KNOW how to win... if they were in the place that we find ourselves in... what would THEY do? Not what the spineless party is doing today... drier is saying that they can do it and it will pass and there is nothing that he and the party can do about it... Oh yes there is... but they have NO BALLS to do it with.

LLS

[savedbygrace]

http://www.rules.house.gov/Archives/98-710.pdf

[LibLieSlayer]

You misunderstood me and I was not clear... I am speaking of the elected republican Representatives and Senators... including the leadership... not activists... who the media and dims are ignoring... so they are ineffectual in blocking this communist takeover of 1/6 of our economy.

LLS

[LonePalm]

I was thinking about this yesterday. If you look at it like a liberal Democrat it is not so difficult.

No matter which way they vote on the Health care bill, the Democrats are going to have between 50 and 60% of the voters angry at them. The exact number depend on the makeup of their district.

If they vote against the bill, they will also anger and demoralize their leftist base.

Assuming you care about re-election, would you want to face the voters with or without your base?

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[LibLieSlayer]

There are things that they could do... durbin went to Iraq as a traitor to fight for the left’s cause... he appeared with saddam for goodness sakes. These guys stay within their Parliamentarian rules... when they should be screaming of dictatorship, Nazi tactics, Goebbels style propaganda and how this will destroy our Capitalist way of life. They need to call a socialist a socialist... cry out about the corruption and backroom deals... but no... we get crap like this drier bilge.

LLS

[muawiyah]

Republicans are in a terrible minority in the Congress. Their numbers are so low the Dems can almost pass Constitutional Amendments at will.

Do you imagine any of our members of Congress can do much more than wear a Hamas suicide belt to the House or Senate?

They can't. Pelosi and her crowd even locked them out of the very meeting rooms where this abomination was under discussion.

[LibLieSlayer]

THANK GOD I am NOT alone! Thank you!

LLS

[muawiyah]

The non-repeal clause in a piece of legislation does not trump the Constitutional prerogatives of a Congress to write new legislation.

[Man50D]

That arbitrary rule doesn’t supersede the Constitution, specifically Article 1 Section 7.

[grobdriver]

there is nothing the majority party (Democrats) cannot do so long as the Rules Committee, where Democrats hold a 9-4 majority, authorizes it

Well, hell... why stop here?
100% tax rate on anyone who makes over 100K a year!
Free food for everyone who isn't white.
Free gas for anyone who drives a VW Bug or Prius.
Free health car! Free Netflix! Free! free! free!

Come on Democrats! Where are your stones?
All you have to do is make a rule and send it to Obama and your utopia is here, now, today!

[familyop]

"Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.), the ranking Republican on the House Rules Committee, said Democrats can pass health care reform without actually voting on it,..."

Yes--a California Republican, of course.

[wolfcreek]

“It would be law by fiat, which would mean government by fiat.”

Throw in *fiat* money and we have a party.

Worst Constitutional crisis since the CW, indeed.

[LibLieSlayer]

Look at the post right above your response... that is what I think that they could be doing. Public opinion will never be brought to a deafening roar by talking about procedures and tactics... we need an in your face counter attack on the evilcrats and their destruction of our way of life. All we get is pablum with a side order of mush.

LLS