Posted on 03/17/2010 7:45:53 AM PDT by Gopher Broke
Call the local offices of Congresscritters. They are still answering the phone.
I am getting more and more ticked every day at the stupid people who voted this guy in. Just last week while driving on 95 in NY, a car passed me with a Kerry/Edwards bumber sticker. This person must be living on another planet. KERRY?EDWARDS???? No shame. How stupid and ignorant of the news can you be? This is the reason why we are where we are today. Pathetic.
I am getting more and more ticked every day at the stupid people who voted this guy in. Just last week while driving on 95 in NY, a car passed me with a Kerry/Edwards bumber sticker. This person must be living on another planet. KERRY?EDWARDS???? No shame. How stupid and ignorant of the news can you be? This is the reason why we are where we are today. Pathetic.
The problem is that most people simply can't believe that someone would take over the country like this.
I thought the cash for ckunkers program was supposed to have taken all of those bumper stickers off the road.
lol
I don't see why the GOP even bothers with a "base" like us.
Damn me? I don't just sit behind a keyboard, shouting at fellow FReepers. That's not "activism".
My husband and I have marched on Washington to oppose ObamaCare, shouted, called, e-mailed, rallied the "troops" here on FR... we've done our part, much more than many others I know, who've been sitting on their lazy asses throughout this healthcare battle.
We helped out with the Scott Brown campaign (we're in Connecticut)... made calls, educated Massachusetts friends and family, drove through a blinding snow storm to stand out in 15 degree weather in 3-ft tall slushy snowbanks to rally for Scott Brown.
Of course all I get from many fellow FReepers about that now is that Scott Brown isn't a "pure" enough conservative. He's a RINO, and must go. Never mind that he was the 41st vote that was supposed to kill ObamaCare in the Senate. But I digress...
The PEOPLE (especially the Tea Partiers) are responsible for delaying the original ObamaCare bill, the GOP noticed, and THEN they followed suit.
If the Republicans think they can delay this current bill from becoming law by reading it, fine. I just hope they've got other tricks up their sleeves besides this if that doesn't work. There are too many "gentlemen" in the Republican Congress... I want to see more pit bulls.
I meant to ping you to #47
I sent the link to all my libtard relatives and told them if they can explain it to me, then I will listen to anything they have to say. If not, they can shut their mouths and never talk to me again if they let this boondoggle pass and put it on my children and grandchildren.
Well said. Those same “I’m taking my toys and going home!” babies have given us the mess we now find ourselves.
Same folks would be bad-mouthing leadership if they just sat on their tails and did nothing. Go GOP! Make this painful.
My mother used to call me regularly in a panic, regurgitating whatever had been on the alphabet network news that night. I finally convinced her to watch Fox. I don’t get the panic calls any more. Now we have well-informed, well-reasoned conversations.
Not a waste of time at all! Every delay possible is beneficial to try and force the House Dims to go back home for their two week Easter break to get hammered by their constituents before they have a chance to vote on this monstrosity.
A number of pundits believe that if no House vote can be held before the Dims go home for Easter break, the bill is dead.
I think it is great that the House Repubs are doing this. ANYTHING that delays or hinders this 0bozoDebacle in any way, shape or form, is a positive in my book. I applaud the House Repubs for scratching under every rock to delay or stop it.
Everything you said & more! I don't understand some FReepers who criticize Repub House & Senate for not doing enough to stop this monstrosity, and then others (perhaps the same criticizers) turn around and say that reading the bill is too late or a waste of time. Doggone it, I WANT IT TO BE A DELAYING TACTIC & WASTE OF TIME!!! Anything to stop, delay, hinder, etc, etc, etc, (everything you said above) is another step to hopefully defeating 0bozoCare for good.
What about the ‘Slaughter rule’? Ol’ Nancy will pull that nasty rabbit out of her hat then, wouldn’t she? They seem to think they can do anything they want, legal or not!
The dems have thoroughly muddied events to the point that possibly no one can actually state what's going on.
As I understand it;
There IS a bill, passed by the Senate and sent to the House. That's not "final" but it is complete and can be read (over a couple of days). "Final" means that both house and senate have passed the same bill and jointly reconciled any inadvertent conflict.
Such a bill would typically be reconciled in conference between the two chambers, be approved by both in that form, and go to the president for signature into law.
Instead, house dems are trying to craft a new and different bill, that would serve to alter the senate bill, to do so they have to assume the original senate bill is passed and ready for presidential sign off.
They can only unilaterally address changing it AFTER passage, which is accomplished by including words in the modification that "deem" the senate bill as being final. That way, the house does not vote on the actual senate version, only on their changes to an accomplished fact.
However, I believe that the senate would then have to approve the house modifications (without changes) in order to accomplish any sort of reconciliation.
If the senate refused to do so, we'd just see the senate bill sent to OBummer because the house had already deemed it to be passed.
If the senate concurred with the modifications, and voted it passed, we'd see both the original (senate) bill and an even more liberal and costly modification on the pres's desk top...in about an hour.
(I assume that the Great One could sign the first and veto the second if he chose to do so.)
What's wrong with this?
Nothing becomes law after being passed by only one of the two chambers, house is approving the senate bill by fiat and in hopes that the senate will do the same as a nod to reconciliation.
"Deeming" something as passed has been used as a tool in the past, there is precedent. But I think that past use has been limited to means of making the financials work and not as a way to change the substance of the bill.
Reference to a 72 hour cooling off period is an innocent whiff of nostalgia going back to the 2009 campaign - they'll vote this bast%@d as soon as Nan believes she has the votes locked up.
And she WILL get the votes locked up.
Since the dems have already convinced some portion of the electorate that "this bill" (or "My proposal" according to the Great One) has been "the most debated bill ever..." they will start the next day on reminding people that they did achieve reconciliation and everything is OK.
Pray for a constitutional challenge.
(Sorry if I bored too many readers but I kind of wanted to see my thoughts in black and white: you are invited to set me straight if I've gone awry.)
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