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Honey bees secret world of heat revealed
The Telegraph UK ^ | 13 Mar 2010 | Richard Gray, Science Correspondent

Posted on 03/17/2010 9:43:10 PM PDT by fishhound

The secret of honey bees' success has been discovered living deep inside their hives - a special type of bee which acts like a living radiator, warming the nest and controlling the colony's complex social structure.

The "heater bees" have been found to play a crucial, and previously unappreciated, role in the survival of honey bee colonies.

Using new technology that allows sceintists to see the temperature inside the bee hives, researchers have been able to see how heater bees use their own bodies to provide a unique form of central heating within a hive.

They have found that these specialised bees, whose body temperatures are considerably higher than other bees in the colony, not only keep the hive warm but also control the social make-up within a colony.

Bees, and other social insects such as ants, share jobs within a colony so each individual has specific role that benefits the colony as a whole.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified; United Kingdom
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For Freeper Beekeepers...we have a few. Wasn't sure where to post it.

Nice to see a science article devoid of any reference to the lies of AL Gore.

1 posted on 03/17/2010 9:43:10 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound

Interesting!


2 posted on 03/17/2010 9:46:42 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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To: fishhound

3 posted on 03/17/2010 9:47:42 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: fishhound

“Heater bees”?

I had no idea bees had hot flashes.

Definitely heats up the bed....

Enough of them, the hive?


4 posted on 03/17/2010 9:47:44 PM PDT by capecodder
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To: fishhound; SunkenCiv

Interesting!!

Someone is going to have to remake that documentary “Secret Life of Bee’s” now.


5 posted on 03/17/2010 9:48:56 PM PDT by GeronL (I said it yesterday and I'll say it today and everyday: Tomorrow I stop being so lazy!!)
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To: garjog

I’m sure that was the very first image from a google search. lol.


6 posted on 03/17/2010 9:49:29 PM PDT by GeronL (I said it yesterday and I'll say it today and everyday: Tomorrow I stop being so lazy!!)
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To: garjog

Thanks.


7 posted on 03/17/2010 9:49:37 PM PDT by fishhound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY)
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To: fishhound

Wing decoupling, very interesting. It would be interesting to find out why the heater bees don’t cook themselves.


8 posted on 03/17/2010 9:52:31 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: skr

God makes cool stuff!


9 posted on 03/17/2010 9:53:09 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: skr

That’s a good question.


10 posted on 03/17/2010 9:53:29 PM PDT by fishhound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY)
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To: garjog

Spelling Bees. Heating Bees. What won’t they think of next - a philosophy based on Descartes’ “To Bee or Not to Bee?”

She’s some Honey Bee. Like the stripes and wings. Buzzz!


11 posted on 03/17/2010 9:53:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: garjog

Hmmm, I am suddenly feeling alot warmer.


12 posted on 03/17/2010 9:56:08 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 is here...)
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To: skr
It would be interesting to find out why the heater bees don’t cook themselves.

Ice bees fly around them just in the nick of time.

13 posted on 03/17/2010 9:56:25 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: fishhound

Very interesting. I started beekeeping last year. After a strong season of build up and some honey production, my hives went into the winter looking pretty strong. By January they both had died off. It will be interesting to see if this new discovery will be looked at in regards to colony collapse disorder, which up to now, is not understood. Maybe the “heater” bees don’t heat like they used to sometimes.


14 posted on 03/17/2010 9:57:20 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: fishhound
Fascinating. Thanks for posting.

"The scientists discovered that the heater bees work to subtly change the temperature of each developing pupae by around a degree and this small change determines what kind of honey bee it will become."

There is a striking similarity with the description of the "hatchery" in "Brave New World".
15 posted on 03/17/2010 10:00:41 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fishhound

Heat is how Japanese honey bees kill the Japanese giant hornet—they swarm the hornet when it invades the nest and vibrate, the bees can withstand a few higher degrees than the hornet. European honey bees just get slaughtered.

Freegards


16 posted on 03/17/2010 10:02:36 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: rickomatic

Same here.
Started last May.
Strong through fall.
Flying in a warm spell first week January.
Dead after a brutal cold snap two weeks later.
A lot of people here in MA lost their bees.


17 posted on 03/17/2010 10:02:51 PM PDT by fishhound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

yikes.......


18 posted on 03/17/2010 10:03:52 PM PDT by fishhound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY)
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To: fishhound

All in the name of social stability.


19 posted on 03/17/2010 10:05:02 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Ransomed

It’s not suffocation...but heat?
That’s interesting.


20 posted on 03/17/2010 10:05:07 PM PDT by fishhound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY)
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To: fishhound

BTTT


21 posted on 03/17/2010 10:10:26 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Might work in a hive, but their elected representatives are about to be voted out on their asses! Ha.


22 posted on 03/17/2010 10:11:12 PM PDT by fishhound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY)
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To: Ransomed
You made me curious; so I looked up Japanese giant hornet (AKA "yak killer"). I never want to see one of these in my back yard.


23 posted on 03/17/2010 10:11:17 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: fishhound

That’s the latest buzz.


24 posted on 03/17/2010 10:12:50 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Like to tie and glue that to a fishhook. lol


25 posted on 03/17/2010 10:13:16 PM PDT by fishhound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; fishhound

They sting you enough and your face FALLS OFF. Supposedly they kill people every year in Japan. I saw a special on AP or NG or discovery, this old woman watched her husband’s face slaugh off after he was attacked.

The special said the J. honey bees killed the hornet by heat, wikipedia says carbon dioxide might also be a factor along with heat.

Freegards


26 posted on 03/17/2010 10:19:00 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: garjog

I am sure the bee in the picture posted would keep most males temperatures up.


27 posted on 03/17/2010 10:20:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: capecodder
“Heater bees”? I had no idea bees had hot flashes. Definitely heats up the bed.... Enough of them, the hive?

What do these heater bees do in the summer, live outside the hive? Maybe they have AC bees that keep the place cool in hot weather, huh?

28 posted on 03/17/2010 10:22:07 PM PDT by calex59
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To: garjog

Dear Santa...


29 posted on 03/17/2010 10:22:34 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (What a fool believes, No wise man has the power to reason away)
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To: fishhound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtFVQe4JRmA


30 posted on 03/17/2010 10:34:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: fishhound

No- It`s John Belushi.


31 posted on 03/17/2010 10:34:13 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Ransomed

Here in TX, since we got the killer bees twenty years or so
ago, it’s been proven that they are triggered by exhaled carbon dioxide.

And they attack the eyes first.

We have sad stories of guys bobcatting down the wrong tree
during construction and dying in the resultant swarm.


32 posted on 03/17/2010 10:38:45 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: fishhound

Oh, wouldn’t the left love to run our society like this.

LOL

Nice article.


33 posted on 03/17/2010 10:57:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If we as Republicans can't clean up our house, who can or will? Just say no to MeCain(D).)
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To: skr
It would be interesting to find out why the heater bees don’t cook themselves.

Maybe they do. More likely is that they don't run full blast until they settle into the chamber.

34 posted on 03/17/2010 11:12:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: rickomatic
It will be interesting to see if this new discovery will be looked at in regards to colony collapse disorder, which up to now, is not understood. Maybe the “heater” bees don’t heat like they used to sometimes.

Breeding hives based on lack of 'open' chambers seems to have been counterproductive. It would seem they were always there for a reason.

35 posted on 03/17/2010 11:20:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: garjog

Don't get stung by the queen bee.
36 posted on 03/17/2010 11:42:20 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: fishhound; SunkenCiv; Red_Devil 232

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proof-positive that AGW is really Apiarogenic Global Warrming; NOT Anthropogenic Global Warming!

Now, if this isn’t exactly the bee’s knees, it is still a honey of a story for us gardening types, who depend upon these gals to do their jobs effectively.


37 posted on 03/18/2010 12:05:12 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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I too thought of colony collapse disorder, but my thought was that perhaps breeders have been breeding for queens who would not leave enough empty cells for the heater bees to do their job. If one HB in an empty cell can warm 70 larvae, then about one empty cell per 70 would appear to be essential. Have you counted the empty cells in your combs? Did you get your bees from a large commercial enterprise where selective breeding may be a problem, or did you get them from a local hobbiest or a wild swarm? Also do you just feed them sugar water, or do you leave enough honey for them to eat?

Another interesting observation. I had read that young bees were the nursemaid bees and as they matured they worked as honey gathering bees. According to this article each is specialized for the specific job according to the brood temperature.


38 posted on 03/18/2010 12:09:53 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: fishhound
heater bees work to subtly change the temperature of each developing pupae by around a degree and this small change determines what kind of honey bee it will become.

How do they know how many of what type of bee to create? Is it seasonal maybe?

39 posted on 03/18/2010 12:12:46 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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I imagine extreme temperature variations are hard on bees. Perhaps you could buy some of that 2 inch thick hard foam insulation and build boxes with a few small openings to put over the hives when the weather goes extreme. I think the 2 inch ones are R13


40 posted on 03/18/2010 12:13:49 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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I think they don’t cook themselves because they don’t fan their muscles when heat is not needed. The article said they have a way of decoupling their wings so they can fan the muscles a lot without moving the wings.


41 posted on 03/18/2010 12:16:55 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: skr
God makes cool stuff!

God is cool too!

42 posted on 03/18/2010 12:53:26 AM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: fishhound

” For Freeper Beekeepers”

I have a co-worker who started a few weeks ago.


43 posted on 03/18/2010 2:22:28 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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” For Freeper Beekeepers”

I have a co-worker who started a few weeks ago.


44 posted on 03/18/2010 2:23:12 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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OK, so are heater bees born or are they assigned the job? If they are born, what causes that? Do their pupae have to be kept at a particular temperature? Do they have to get the food for the extra energy themselves or do other bees deliver it to them? Etc.

Maybe these answers aren’t known yet, but reporters are good at not asking probing science questions.

Each bee in the hive needs a miniature TV camera attached to its head to we can see what is going on in there.

And, I hate to do this, but will global warming make all of the bees into foragers and then there would be no more housekeepers to take care of the larvae and clean the nest? Or will the government take care of that job for them?


45 posted on 03/18/2010 3:05:44 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: fishhound

Wait until algore reads this.


46 posted on 03/18/2010 3:21:30 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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47 posted on 03/18/2010 4:02:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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48 posted on 03/18/2010 4:03:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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The fact that some bees have a higher temperature than others is very old news. It is in fact common knowledge

In the winter when the colony is inactive:

The bees at the center of the cluster are warmer than those on the outside. As the temperature of those on the outside gets too cold, the warm bees move outward. The bee temp from the center of the cluster to the outside is continuously variable.

Honey is the fuel that provides the body temp


49 posted on 03/18/2010 4:14:13 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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Doing the jobs drones won’t do.


50 posted on 03/18/2010 5:20:27 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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