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Hoyer: Not at 216 yet
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Posted on 03/21/2010 7:05:17 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Hoyer: Not at 216 yet

Countering some of the "we've got it" optimism of several colleagues, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer seems to be saying that Democrats do not yet have the 216 votes they need to pass health care reform.

"We’re going to get those 216 votes because we believe that they understand that Americans want health care reform by an overwhelming majority," Hoyer said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

When host David Gregory asked Hoyer if he has the votes now, the Maryland Democrat said: "I think we’re going to have 216 when the roll is called, yes."

Gregory: "But not yet? You're not nailed down, a few behind?"

Hoyer: "There are still members looking at it, trying to make up their minds, we think 216 plus votes when we call the roll.


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To: Sub-Driver

When this bill goes through, all of you military retiree’s out their are going to lose your Tricare. Did you really believe the lie you were told when you enlisted that you would have healthcare the rest of your life. I did!
I am so angry that I could bite nails in two.


51 posted on 03/21/2010 7:32:56 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: bayliving
Would a class action law suit against the government work?

I don't think you can sue the government, but we still have the 2nd amendment.
52 posted on 03/21/2010 7:33:03 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Sub-Driver; All
“We’re going to get those 216 votes because we believe that they understand that Americans want health care reform by an overwhelming majority,” Hoyer said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Hey Steny, when was the last time you were outside of DC?
53 posted on 03/21/2010 7:33:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: pburgh01
I know..I was just passing on the info...I do not believe her as far as I can throw her. Her words are really meaningless.
54 posted on 03/21/2010 7:34:05 AM PDT by halo66
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To: Ulysse

Not to mention, is any of it constitutional. It’s not.


55 posted on 03/21/2010 7:34:23 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: KansasGirl

After yesterday I think they should know that people really, really don’t want this. Regardless of how this turns out, many thanks to the good Patriots who made it to D.C. yesterday.


56 posted on 03/21/2010 7:34:23 AM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: Repeal The 17th

So CODE RED is saying only 7 undecideds with the count,now, at 212 to 212 means we have to get 4 of the 7 to win. That is going to be a challenge but don’t give up. Keep praying.


57 posted on 03/21/2010 7:34:26 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Rational Thought

The head Rat babe has agreed to the EO.


58 posted on 03/21/2010 7:34:44 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: crosshairs; All
but we still have the 2nd amendment.

Politicians can sh&^ on the Constitution all they want, but if someone steps up o defend it with a firearm, they will be labeled a terroist and their life ruined (if they aren't killed).

The cards are stacked. AMerica was a great idea while it lasted.
59 posted on 03/21/2010 7:34:54 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Evil Slayer
This is a great one: http://www.bartleby.com/108/02/20.html#S34 Here's a small one:
60 posted on 03/21/2010 7:36:00 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Socialize USA (not only medicine) by one “vote” err no ,rather one DEAL behind closed doors!

If you accept that freedom could crushed for a long while in the “West”...It will be times of tyrany, troubles and civil wars meanwhile islam is spreading its dark veil in many parts of the world....


61 posted on 03/21/2010 7:36:24 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: crosshairs
but we still have the 2nd amendment.

That and the Birth Certificate.

62 posted on 03/21/2010 7:36:40 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: bayliving
So how do we "opt out" of the taxes that are going to be heaped upon us once this unconstitutional law is passed?

Depending on your circumstances, you will have to (1) quit your job so they can't deduct it from your pay, or (2) opt-out of social security so they can't withhold it from your check.

63 posted on 03/21/2010 7:36:41 AM PDT by foxfield (Sarah Palin, America's "girl next door".)
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To: combat_boots

Thanks CB :-)


64 posted on 03/21/2010 7:37:39 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Baynative

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/politics/health.care.votes/index.html?hpt=T1


65 posted on 03/21/2010 7:39:02 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Fu-fu2

I agree in theory, but this vote was put on track Friday under the assumption they would proceed with the slaughter rule, and that is now DOA.

We’ll see what happens, but they opened the door to a vote, and a vote they shall have...


66 posted on 03/21/2010 7:40:10 AM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Rational Thought

Stupak and the pro-lifers will everntually get scr*wed. They are Democrats first. They use “pro-life” to get elected.

The baby killing 40-50 libe Dems will geta wink and a nod from Obama that the govt will pay for baby killing. If this passes then we are headed toward eastern European style communism/socialism. This would be a positive because I think it will be more like Zimbabwe communism.

Eastern Europe and the USSR were awful for babies with abortion. Romania was probably the worst. I doubt Stupak and his gang consider these things.

Stupak and his gang will probably be double crossed and will just rationalize it.

Gee we have people here defending McCain and we are where we are now (hell) in large part because McCain-Feingold. People will rationalize anything and the TV will help.


67 posted on 03/21/2010 7:46:13 AM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: KansasGirl

Where the F*** do they get this information? EVERY STINKIN’ POLL I’ve seen shows a MAJORITY against this bill.

F***ing morons.


68 posted on 03/21/2010 7:47:43 AM PDT by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: Evil Slayer

I happen to believe the house leadership will approve of and allow
just as few of the house democrats to vote “NO” as possible but still
maintain enough “YES” votes to pass the bill, allowing the most vulnerable
of their members to point to their “NO” vote in the November elections.


69 posted on 03/21/2010 7:50:52 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Thank you for your contribution. Your comment has been submitted for review.)
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To: Frantzie
“Stupak and the pro-lifers will everntually get scr*wed. They are Democrats first. They use “pro-life” to get elected.”

I can't argue with that.

70 posted on 03/21/2010 7:51:05 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Repeal The 17th

Possible, but I believe ALL dems that are not conservative will be voted out come November even if they vote “nay” on this commie bill.


71 posted on 03/21/2010 8:05:11 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Ballygrl

Wow. That’s big.


72 posted on 03/21/2010 8:10:53 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Repeal The 17th

Does this count Sanchez?


73 posted on 03/21/2010 8:11:44 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Sub-Driver
"We’re going to get those 216 votes because we believe that they understand that Americans want health care reform by an overwhelming majority," Hoyer said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Not the kind you're peddling, fool. That overwhelming majority is going to can your arse.

George Orwell. 1984.

YOU LIE.

Joe Wilson
74 posted on 03/21/2010 8:20:58 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: halo66

“That’s what Geraldine Ferraro (sp?) said on Fox...Pelosi would not call a vote unless she knew 100% that she had the votes.”

They’re all bravo, bravo right now, because that’s all they can be. They’re headed for a HUGE SMACKDOWN, and all they want to do is pass socialism. Can they get enough people to drink the Jim Jones kool-aid and commit suicide?


75 posted on 03/21/2010 8:24:08 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: mrsmel

“The rats and their running dog media should burn for continuing to perpetuate this lie.”

They will burn, they will.


76 posted on 03/21/2010 8:25:28 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: bayliving

My wife and I were talking and we deemed that our taxes were already paid for this year and passed that into law!

Where do I go to legally challenge this as a common citizen?

I want to get this ball rolling now!

Would a class action law suit against the government work?
+++++++++++++++++++

I totally support this! I love this part: “My wife and I were talking and we deemed that our taxes were already paid for this year...”


77 posted on 03/21/2010 8:26:34 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Trying to socialize all of American medicine........

by ONE VOTE !!!!!!!!!!!
++++++++++++++

What do you mean? It’s a mandate, by an overwhelming majority of Americans. /huge, massive sarc


78 posted on 03/21/2010 8:29:00 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: mmichaels1970

“Our local radio station reported via Fox News that they had 216 as well and that it was going to pass by 1 vote.”

Fox hasn’t been very accurate in the fray, this week.


79 posted on 03/21/2010 8:29:54 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Bean Counter

“I’m not saying that we have a slam dunk by any means, but it is a new ballgame this morning kids, so I give it 60/40 odds this morning that Peloski will delay that vote rather than chance it being voted down all together. If this is killed in the House, that is the end of the ballgame for Premier Hussein and the Dhimmies this Fall. They have painted themselves into a corner on this and it serves them right that there is no safe way out.”

I sooo hope and pray that you are right.

Pray for this nation.


80 posted on 03/21/2010 8:38:23 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Fu-fu2

“If they call for a vote, they have the numbers. We have a bunch of lawyers running Congress. A good lawyer doesn’t ask a question he doesn’t know the answer to already....”

You’re assuming they’re ‘good’ up there. ;)


81 posted on 03/21/2010 8:40:07 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Sub-Driver

82 posted on 03/21/2010 8:40:43 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Rational Thought
“What will happen to the 40 or so Democrats who are claiming they are voting for this bill because of that provision??”

Presidential Deep Throat will meet with them in a parking garage and tell them of the impending reversal of said order. Stupak and crew, and all of us will get skewered.

83 posted on 03/21/2010 8:42:14 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: cartoonistx

How sad...


84 posted on 03/21/2010 8:44:28 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: LS

I don’t see that name on their list one way or the other.


85 posted on 03/21/2010 8:46:22 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Thank you for your contribution. Your comment has been submitted for review.)
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To: Frantzie

“Stupak and his gang will probably be double crossed and will just rationalize it.”

They’ll claim they tried in their upcoming elections.

Time for a SOCIALIST SMACKDOWN folks.


86 posted on 03/21/2010 8:48:50 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Sub-Driver

this has changed according to drudge

i think it is a done deal america


87 posted on 03/21/2010 10:01:27 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If this passes with 216 we must lable it the MASSA effect. MASSA dirtly laundry released to force his retirement subsequently requiring 1 less vote to pass this treasonous bill.\

Investigate the dirty politics of the Obama adminsitration.

YES The American People care about process esp when it is not ethical.


88 posted on 03/21/2010 10:52:39 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Americans understand Oppressive Big Government is modern day Slavery.)
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