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Democrats Death by Suicide
The Washington Times ^ | March 21, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 03/21/2010 9:01:50 PM PDT by Abakumov

The government takeover of health care will go down in history as the worst piece of legislation to emerge from a Congress held in general disdain by the American people. The only bipartisanship on the health bill was in the opposition.

Usually autopsies are reserved for after the patient has died, but in this case it is useful to get ahead of the matter. The malformed health legislation is not the only reason Democrats are facing political extinction in November, but it is one of the most dramatic. The legislative process in this country has never been so unseemly. Arm twisting, backroom deals, special privileges and potentially criminal "government jobs for votes" agreements became a normal way of doing business. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi fixated on the mantra that the Democrats' health plan is "historic," but so was the Black Plague.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010midterms; bhohealthcare; demcare; democrats; healthcare; killthebill; obamacare; pelosi; politicalsuicide; suicide
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To: Bad Jack Bauer; All

But .. the reality is .. the dems DON’T KNOW they have in effect done this to themselves.

When they finally get in that circle .. Which one will try to pull away first .. and which one will attack first. Who will survive .. one .. two .. maybe.

There’s a story in the Bible, where God confuses the enemy, and they turn and destroy each other. This is more of what I believe will happen.

It might have happened sooner if they had lost the vote, but I still believe it will happen anyway .. and November will be the greatest opportunity to get our country back and to vote in people who will do what the American people want, and not what the politicians want.


51 posted on 03/21/2010 10:07:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt (HEALTHCARE IS NOT A "RIGHT"!!)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Obviously that’s meant to be a racist attack on Obama.


52 posted on 03/21/2010 10:08:49 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ought-six
Spot on ought-six...

We'll own these dumb asses in November!!!!

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Obama said at the White House shortly after the House voted: "This isn't radical reform, but it is major reform."

To our Prez I say...


A short Youtube Video -- "What are you... a doomsday machine..."

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Pelosi

53 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:43 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Colonel Blimp

“It’s possible that an ObamaCare defeat would have robbed the Tea Party movement of its signature issue and a certain amount of momentum going into the November elections.

Now, we can be assured that ObamaCare will continue to dominate nearly every news cycle, especially since most states will be mounting legal challenges.

This will help ensure an informed and motivated electorate come November.”

Excellent point.


54 posted on 03/21/2010 10:13:39 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: Abakumov
What, you don't like socialism with a sneer? Well, we'll just have to "cure" you of that, now, won't we? Just as the Soviet Union treated all political dissidents as psychiatric patients, so will the American Fascist Party, formerly known as the democratic party - they've already started, inasmuch as every instance of dissent is immediately charged with being nothing more than racism; pretty soon they will escalate to calling any dissent, no matter how well couched in terms of economics alone, a psychiatric disease.


55 posted on 03/21/2010 10:16:04 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: calex59
There are a lot of quitters and whiners on FR today(

Call them what they are, pu$$ies! And I'll include those that simply want to sit by and incessantly blame, who else, Bush!

Time for these p*ssies to man up, or go back to their litter boxes.

56 posted on 03/21/2010 10:18:48 PM PDT by Paradox (The Party of Know.)
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To: Terry Mross
I think it had something to do with immigration reform. That means amnesty for a bunch of democrat voters this November.

Their plan all along has been to survive the November backlash by getting amnesty passed ASAP.

57 posted on 03/21/2010 10:21:00 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: RWB Patriot

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242


58 posted on 03/21/2010 10:22:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: kittykat77

I appreciate your sentiment but I think the next battle will be this week, in the Senate. We may need to get in there again with the lobbying and etc.


59 posted on 03/21/2010 10:36:49 PM PDT by Marie2 (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: CyberAnt

It would indeed be wonderful if this scandalous, traitorous act results in the biggest rout of a political party in American history.

The cream on the pie would of course be our Supreme throwing the bill out as unConstitutional. Call me a Pollyanna, but I think they will, and it will be nice payback for O’s ugly behavior during his precious “speech.”

Eight months from now I think this board will be entertaining some very happy FReepers.


60 posted on 03/21/2010 10:39:38 PM PDT by Marie2 (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: kittykat77

I am long prepared for the elections regardless of what happens with the health care bill.


61 posted on 03/21/2010 10:53:05 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies! Bunnies=Nature's Freaks)
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To: Abakumov

pharaoh’s army drowning in the red sea was ‘historic’ also.


62 posted on 03/21/2010 11:02:31 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: RayChuang88

The politically best time to strike would have been post elections in November in the lame duck session. The Rats have poisoned primaries and gubernatorial races and all sorts of things by acting this early in the year. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.


63 posted on 03/21/2010 11:13:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Colonel Blimp

May have to tie the kangaroo down for several years before it’s killed.


64 posted on 03/21/2010 11:14:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: J Edgar

decisive, i think you mean


65 posted on 03/21/2010 11:15:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: kittykat77

Well we do have a freight train bearing down on us now.


66 posted on 03/21/2010 11:16:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: fortheDeclaration

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure


67 posted on 03/21/2010 11:16:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Spirochete; All

There has to be some way to sabotage amnesty.


68 posted on 03/21/2010 11:20:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: atruelady

I have been starting to scan the various major media outlets across the country in different states. People are really pissed off. Dems are underestimating the whole thing.
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I agree — wholeheartedly.

This bill was passed against the will of the people, just to mention one of the travesties of it.

We now officially have tyranny in our government and we have the right to overthrow it:

The Founder’s Escape Clause

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it…” - U.S. Declaration of Independence


69 posted on 03/21/2010 11:32:58 PM PDT by bethtopaz (www.rapturealert.com)
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To: kittykat77

“There are people fighting much tougher fights all over the world. We at least go home to running water and electricity and cable TV.”

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.” CS Lewis


70 posted on 03/22/2010 12:10:44 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: TheWriterTX
The American people are no longer asleep. They are awake and ANGRY. yeah and as one who hasnt slept a wink all night, I AM AWAKE AND VERY ANGRY as well!!

Let the lawsuit's begin!!!

For starters how about the EQUAL RIGHT PROTECTION whereby all persons should be treated EQUALLY regardless of age, gender, nationality etc?
Under Obama's Death-care the elderly are the first ones to get screwed, hence discrimination by AGE.

71 posted on 03/22/2010 2:36:44 AM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: Ballygrl

We need to recapture the theme of America’s greatness currently lost in the world of Leftism and Political Correctness.

The youth must play a role in this - it must be reflected in their intrinsic desire to be liberated. As elders, we fight for the future of the youth.

Generally, people need to be made aware of the unprecedented violation that just occurred against their liberties. I suspect that most inhabitants of the U.S. don’t care to be violated.


72 posted on 03/22/2010 2:48:57 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The politically best time to strike would have been post elections in November in the lame duck session. The Rats have poisoned primaries and gubernatorial races and all sorts of things by acting this early in the year.

I could not agree with your more. Indeed, H.R. 3200's most gigantic flaw--not correcting the issue with the means to lower the cost of health insurance provider premium costs--will anger every business owner to no end and you will be a LOT of Democrats voted out of office in a huge landslide--and that's in the primary season!

Indeed, H.R. 3200 would have passed LAST fall if it included two components:

1) Allow health insurance companies to sell policies across state lines in a regional fashion. Imagine being able to competitively choose between 10 to 20 different private insurance plans--the result is price competition that will dramatically lower premium costs.

2) Allow businesses under 50 employees in size to join a buying pool to do a large-scale group buy of insurance policies. Since a large group buy spreads the insurance risk over a very large group of people, that too will cut premium costs.

By not including these two provisions, the cost to businesses, especially in states where there is little competition between health insurance providers--will be nothing short of disastrous financially.

73 posted on 03/22/2010 4:02:42 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RWB Patriot
How many people are going to try and cross the people now in control of their healthcare?

Well, for starters, there's all the people in the 37 states which have enacted legislation stating their intent to ignore the deathcare laws.

How many people is that?

74 posted on 03/22/2010 4:38:41 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Deathcare, a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
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To: outofstyle

Someone should have asked Pelosi if she feels that she is BECOMING history!


75 posted on 03/22/2010 5:11:48 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Abakumov

Now that Obama has his deathcare plan. The left will be pushing for legal assisted suicide.

THE CHRISTIAN POST

Do You Know Jack?

There are good reasons why even secular society ought to disapprove of suicide. I’ll share them with you.

Sun, Mar. 14, 2010 Posted: 10:17 PM EDT

According to an upcoming HBO movie, “You Don’t Know Jack,” folks. The “Jack” in this case is Dr. Jack Kevorkian, a.k.a., “Dr. Death.” The title also means “you don’t know anything.”

Actually, we know quite a bit about assisted suicide-it’s those who insist otherwise that need instruction.

While the movie hasn’t aired or even been viewed by critics, we can infer its perspective on Kevorkian from the comments made by its stars, Al Pacino and Susan Sarandon.

According to Pacino, viewers “don’t know this guy.” Kevorkian “is more than meets the eye...[the film is] a portrait of a zealot. I don’t think we see that often.”

Kevorkian’s “zealotry” also appealed to Sarandon, who said that people who dedicate themselves to a cause at the expense of anything else in their lives “are really fascinating people.”

For his part, Kevorkian is said to be “enthused about helping with the film.” His lawyer thinks the film won’t be “scathing and critical.”

I guess not. I certainly doubt that three Oscar-winners-Pacino, Sarandon, and director Barry Levinson-have come together to make a film that won’t be at least a little sympathetic to its subject.

What viewers will probably see is a story about a man whose excesses hurt an otherwise noble cause and led to his downfall at the hand of religious zealots.

Of course, there’s nothing noble or “compassionate” about physician-assisted suicide-and you don’t have to be religious to believe that.

No one would call the British magazine Spiked religious or even traditionalist. Yet, it recently ran two pieces about why assisted-suicide should remain illegal. In one of them Kevin Yuill of the University of the Sunderlands makes clear what many assisted-suicide advocates try to obscure: The ultimate goal isn’t to alleviate suffering, but to enshrine in law “the right of any person to end their life.”

This “right,” according to Yuill, threatens the “assumption that human life is valuable.”

He calls suicide a “deeply anti-social act” that destroys “possibilities”-not just, obviously, for the individuals themselves, but for others too. Yuill insists that it’s this social harm and not what he terms “outmoded religious beliefs” that lies behind the “taboo against suicide.”

In the other piece, editor Mick Hume adds that the “right to die” is the result of a “loss of faith-not in God, but in humanity.” Hume decries the lack of belief in “the human capacity to transcend the limitations of our lives.” In this “demoralized” setting, the wish for a “good death” replaces “the aspiration for a better life.”

What Hume and Yuill miss completely is the connection between Christian ideas and the beliefs whose passing they lament. What Hume calls “faith in humanity” is inseparable from the idea of our being created in the image of God. What Yuill calls “possibilities” is derived from Christian ideas about hope.

But that’s OK. When it comes to assisted suicide, the next big so-called rights campaign that the left will wage, we Christians welcome good, prudential arguments. So that even non-believers can come to understand the “aspiration for a better life.”
From BreakPoint, March 12, 2010, Copyright 2010, Prison Fellowship Ministries. Reprinted with the permission of Prison Fellowship Ministries. All rights reserved. May not be reproduced or distributed without the express written permission of Prison Fellowship Ministries. “BreakPoint®” and “Prison Fellowship Ministries®” are registered trademarks of Prison Fellowship

Chuck Colson
Christian Post Guest Columnist

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100314/do-you-know-jack/


76 posted on 03/22/2010 6:39:48 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I hope you realize that I was being facetious.
77 posted on 03/22/2010 9:20:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

78 posted on 03/22/2010 9:37:29 AM PDT by AlanD
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To: Abakumov
Getting rid of the Democrats at the ballot box is essential, but I believe that there is much more to be done. We need Conservatives that are as bold as the Democrats were yesterday. That is, Conservatives who are willing to do what is right (even though the Dems were not right) with out thought of re-election.

The Federal Government did not keep its promises in many areas. In the promises concerning Social Security cost and obligations they did not keep faith. The promises surrounding the cost of Medicare have not been honored. I could go on and on and on. Therefore I purpose that our obligations to them should be treated as their obligations to us.

Congressional retires should lose all of their future retirement benefits.

They have done it to us. There is very little pain in being sent home by your constituents when 90% if their pay stays the same. Lets send them home without a golden parachute. If they can ignore their promises and obligations why can't we? What gives their claim superiority over ours?

I think we should look for Conservatives that will go to Washington and pass legislation that will cancel all retirement benefits for retired Federal legislators. It will take the same metal exhibited by some in Congress this week, although I doubt that the people will be very offended by this.

79 posted on 03/22/2010 9:37:56 AM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: Abakumov
The government takeover of health care will go down in history as the worst piece of legislation to emerge from a Congress held in general disdain by the American people.

Possibly from this Congress. Although they still have time to pass something even worse.

It's not the worst law in American history, of course. That would probably be the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, which led directly and almost inexorably to the Civil War and 640,000 dead Americans. An equivalent number today would be around 6.5M.

80 posted on 03/22/2010 10:31:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Marie2; All

Wow!!

What a great thought .. especially after I had to work with my boss today on how we’re going to handle the reduction in work hours. Some of our best caregivers are going to be out of a job. We’re crushed.

So .. I’d be very happy if ObamaCare went in the trash can.

However, we thought the Supremes would do the same with the campaign finance law .. and you see how long that took .. and then, only a portion of it was thrown out. If the same thing happens with ObamaCare .. the damage will be so severe, we will never be able to recover.

For those reasons, I’m not going to start cheering any day soon.


81 posted on 03/25/2010 8:45:35 PM PDT by CyberAnt (HEALTHCARE IS NOT A "RIGHT"!!)
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