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Posted on 03/21/2010 9:19:43 PM PDT by ejdrapes
Mad About Obamacare? Blame Bush They did it. Despite an overwhelming public backlash and the likely political ramifications, Democrats cut deals and twisted arms and got the votes they needed, winning by a 219 to 212 margin. While the reconciliation process still remains, its a sideshow at this point. The United States is a presidential signature away from having national health care. Suffice it to say, as somebody who has spent the past year working to expose the devastating consequences of this legislation and who values individual liberty, this is a sad day. And Im working on a longer piece right now for tomorrows site about the ongoing fight against its provisions, which just got a lot harder. But as upset as I am, I cant pin the blame entirely on Democrats. The reason is that by passing this bill, liberal Democrats were just doing what liberal Democrats do raising taxes and expanding the role of government in our lives. Liberals have been working for decades to impose national health care on America. Its been their Holy Grail. It should have been apparent to everybody that once they took over Congress and the presidency that it would be their top domestic priority. All of the leading Democratic presidential candidates proposed health care plans roughly along the lines of what passed today. The question conservatives should be asking though, is how did we get in this position in the first place? How come, over the course of two elections, Democrats were able to take back the White House and amass substantial majorities in both chambers of Congress, allowing them to enact this sweeping legislation with no Republican votes and huge defections in their own party?
By Philip Klein on 3.21.10 @ 11:27PM
They did it.
Despite an overwhelming public backlash and the likely political ramifications, Democrats cut deals and twisted arms and got the votes they needed, winning by a 219 to 212 margin. While the reconciliation process still remains, its a sideshow at this point. The United States is a presidential signature away from having national health care.
Suffice it to say, as somebody who has spent the past year working to expose the devastating consequences of this legislation and who values individual liberty, this is a sad day. And Im working on a longer piece right now for tomorrows site about the ongoing fight against its provisions, which just got a lot harder. But as upset as I am, I cant pin the blame entirely on Democrats.
The reason is that by passing this bill, liberal Democrats were just doing what liberal Democrats do raising taxes and expanding the role of government in our lives. Liberals have been working for decades to impose national health care on America. Its been their Holy Grail. It should have been apparent to everybody that once they took over Congress and the presidency that it would be their top domestic priority. All of the leading Democratic presidential candidates proposed health care plans roughly along the lines of what passed today.
The question conservatives should be asking though, is how did we get in this position in the first place? How come, over the course of two elections, Democrats were able to take back the White House and amass substantial majorities in both chambers of Congress, allowing them to enact this sweeping legislation with no Republican votes and huge defections in their own party?
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LOL! Maybe we should give it back. That would be too funny.
Throw money at it, that’s the reason. Scott Brown won. Go figure. Soros can throw a gazillion bucks at bonko, the dems can run a gazillion ads.
We will not forget. We will vote for the conservative with a 500k budget. The MSM has lost it’s power.
Pity party tonight with drinks, my house.... BYOB
Remember, the indy’s are in our camp. They’re not buying it anymore. They were suckered once (well, perhaps more, but bambi cemented the dems are LIARS) And the more they dems spend on useless ads, and get donations, and get funding, it takes away from others, so, there’s less they have for the next one.
They’re going to regret today in the near future. It’s their party, and they’re going to cry. They’re FINISHED. I don’t see them in power for at least 20 years.
As far as, “We’ve never repealed a bill” before. We’ve never been this corrupt before. Same bill, different story. It will be repealed. We can do this!
Of course it's not all about Bush - a lot of blame can be placed on congress too. But Bush didn't use the bully pulpit enough to push for reform on domestic issues. The one thing outside of the war he was passionate about was amnesty.
Eve’s fault. Should’ve left that apple on the tree.
You're not alone.
People want someone to blame, how about blaming all those who fire INTO the tent instead of firing OUT. The media couldn't have succeeded against Bush without the full help and assistance of those who claim to be on our side. If we stuck together like the dems this would be a different world.
President Bush deserves part of the blame but in the end it is the American people who are to blame. Now it is up to us and those who have awakened from their slumber to fix this mess. This means giving every dollar and hour we can electing real conservatives to Congress. There is no doubt the Democrats are going to be punished but we need to make sure that we don’t just get a bunch of wussie compassionate/psuedo conservative types elected to replace them. We have opportunity to elect real conservatives across this nation in a way not seen even in 1994. Let us not waste it . There is a lot of pain coming. Tomorrow the stock market is going to be hit with this ton of crap legistlation and businesses are going to start bleeding more jobs going into the fall. These stupid Democrats are going to be even worse off by the time Nov rolls around.
Yeah, well, he wasn’t “perfect” enough for some so now we have a LOT to worry about.
We'll own these dumb asses in November!!!!
Obama said at the White House shortly after the House voted: "This isn't radical reform, but it is major reform."
To our Prez I say...
Well of course. With a majority, what can they do? Accept it? The past is the past. We can say, well, if only... for so long. Today is today, and our guys stepped it up.
Paul Ryan was on fire. I’m next to his district and have known him for a LONG time. They did rattle the dems today, and wasn’t that a sample of what they are made of? Of what they can do? And why haven’t they used it before? Because we didn’t inspire them, us, we the people, we took them for granted. Period. They went to their job.
No other congress is this corrupt, and we won’t relax, now or in the coming years. We need more Paul Ryans. The R’s need to keep this style going, and F all the dems when they get control. They shattered JJJ, it was beautiful.
So, you may be in the 2005 mindset, come join us, we’re shaking and moving here in 2010. We’ve rattled their cages, and unless they want to be mccained, they’ll be conservative. I have hope. I hope you see it too. The old codgers are going or gone.
This has all been orchestrated for a hundred years. Bit by bit from the Fabians to the Frankfurt school a progressive constructed society has been the goal. Academia and media are the means to their end.
I don't agree AT ALL with Obama and the Dems in congress. But they know how to get things done. In about 1 year they were able to nationalize health care. In the 8 years of Bush what huge domestic policy agenda was accomplished? The only two I can think of were No Child Left Behind (with Ted Kennedy) and the prescription drug benefit (nothing conservative about that).
Blame the idiot that wrote this column.
“Americans are too stupid and lazy to cancel their TV service.”
Heck, I don’t even have to bother. Even with converter boxes on 3 different TV’s in my house I cannot count on getting a decent picture. I am already reading more and listening to C-Span more. Kind of like the Cheshire Cat smile.
Bull. The media was complicit every step of the way. By-the-by, Republicans only had 6 of 8, Democrats had both houses for two - the worst two of the GWB presidency. Had we had even a remotely fair and balanced media, we would not have the current _resident.
His daddy tried to play conservative 'till someone read his lips. McCain couldn't call the communist he ran against a communist, but preferred to reach across the aisle with senile precision.
The dems are in for a real surprise if they think they'll be faced with such balls-less opponents in the future. The Tea Party, thanks to them, now specialize in "teabags", and you can bet any serious candidate running as a Republican this fall will be sporting the "in your face" pair the Left has so longed for.
Come November, the Left will experience first hand just what 'teabagging' feels like, up-front, and personal. They've got from now 'till then to get their Barney Frank on, 'cause it's gonna be fuggly.
I find it a bit disheartening that the only solution seems to be money. Ads ads and more ads. It’s unfortunate that the American electorate by and large respond only to a barrage of political advertising and don’t take the time to research candidates and make a choice on merits alone. King’s ransoms to law firms and PR agencies that represent both sides seems decidedly perverse. Reminds me of a painful divorce where the married couple quibble over property, and at the end of the day there’s not much left to divvy up, but the attorneys on both sides make out like bandits.
Sorry, won’t wash...the blame rests squarely on Obama and his minions...it happened on their watch, on their own terms, and was prostituted in the process because the end justifies the means in the world of libtards. By making it Bush’s fault you are letting the libtards off the hook and are assuring that there will be no consequences for their unscrupulous behavior come November 2010.
A lot of blame can go around.
The blame belongs to the right that kept surrendering each slice to the left. They surrendered education to them, the press. They surrendered and allowed the infiltration of every institution by the left. In the name of civility they backed off at every turn and brought noodles to a gun fight. They played by the queensbury rules and the left played schoolyard no rules fisticuffs. This is the result of fifty years of surrender and compromise in the name of peace. Instead of proselytizing back we allowed them to control the debate assuming the people were smart enough to understand the intellectual superiority of the conservative argument. This is what you get. They promoted their ideology with religious fervor and we simply played to the conservative crowd. We should have been trying to convert the rest of the masses. Instead of importing foreign ideas we should have been exporting ours. Whatever resistance we put up is too little too late. From here on it’s an uphill battle. 2010 may well be the last election conservatives ever win, because we think in the short term while the left has been preparing this day for the last fifty years. It’s a coup d’etat and it was carried in broad daylight without firing a shot..
Blame Columbus for having found America.
I will blame the Democrats for this one. Sorry.
You nailed it.
Are you saying cap-and-trade isn't as tyrannical as Obamacare?
The commies have been infiltrating every aspect of our society for the last century. The blame lies squarely with the citizens of the USA. Reagan may have facilitated the destruction of the Soviet Union, but, we have never stopped the communist cancer growing in our own back yard.
We have sat on our lazy asses and allowed every sacred institution in this country to be controlled and dominated by these filthy pigs. We are now reaping the whirlwind.
To blame Bush is a joke. He was only a product of a very decadent society that has refused to vote, refused to attend school board meetings, refused to get involved with their elected officials, refused to raise their own children, refused to curb their own insatiable appetites for self-agrandizing narcissism, and, without one iota of conscience, allowed the murder of millions of babies. And, they will think nothing of killing off millions of elderly and infirmed when they think they may have to pay for their care.
I could go on; but, I think you recognize who is really responsible for the destruction of this country. Obama is commie loser and the American people helped produce him and they put him in office. The water came to a boil, however, way before Bush and Obama.
God Help Us...
>However, I am going to place the blame precisely where it belongs — on the democrats and its three illustrious leaders.
Yeah-Larry, Curley, and Moe.
George W. Bush was never able to accomplish his dream of providing amnesty for all illegal aliens.
Yet most people on FR are still carrying water for George W.
“Over the course of two elections”?
Hardly! Try the marginalization of Senator McCarthy, and the resultant crippling of the House Unamerican Activities Commission, as confirmed by the Venona Transcripts. Ever since, the termites have been chewing away at the heartwood, to where the only thing keeping up the semblance of the shell are the faded hopes and dreams of a mal-educated polity.
My father brought me here for freedom - where do I send my child?
So we can roll over and play dead and collect the free government housing, obama food coupons, and wait to die under government health care or we can take our country back.
What is done is done. We can fight and get control of our schools and universities, libraries, local school boards. We can run for local elected offices, state offices and national offices. We have to change things. We have been silent too long and if we continue to be silent then we will get run over just like we did this evening with the Nationalization of Health Care which amounts to 18% of our economy.
We should fight with everything we have to restore this country to its greatness, fiscal soundness and position in the world as a fair arbitrator on sound footing. We must do these things or the Socialists and Communists will take the remaining freedoms we have and flush them.
It is time for the silent majority to become the driving force in this country again. We have to become involved and vocal at all levels of government. Remember no political office is to small or insignificant to have an affect on the lives of those around you. This is the only was to beat back the Socialists and Communists and restore America to its greatness.
Get rid of Geraldo FOX if you want to keep your ratings.
That’s a good question. I’m not sure I have an answer. They’re both very negative for our nation. No doubt about that. While they might not be totally equal in the devastation they would cause, I think it’s fair to say they are both of roughly the same caliber. They are devastating.
In 2008, we were screwed no matter what we did.
What scares me is the mindset I’m seeing around here, that it just isn’t all that important that Conservatives do everything they can to boot this guy from office.
Man, if someone can’t see the need to boot this guy, just don’t come bitching to me anymore about RINOs in Congress. If not now when?
If it’s any consolation to you, I expect people are going to have a whole new look at what amnesty would imply. They may not be able to see three steps ahead, but two is much easier. McCain will lose the primary, much to Sarah Palin’s relief. I don’t know what would suffice to “kick him out” prior to November.
I was surprised to hear their primary down there is held late in the year, something like August. I wish he was off the ballot next month.
I sure hope you’re right, he is defeated in the primary. If I implied I wanted him out before November, I mis-spoke. I envision him leaving at the end of the year at the earliest.
While that won’t be early enough for me, I’ll bear up under it. ;-)
I’ve heard the idea lofted that he might switch parties if he is taken out in the primary. Evidently the Democrats haven’t been launching a strong opponent against him in the past, and it wouldn’t be all that hard for him to pull that off.
One of the people from Arizona explained their process to me last year. I believe I’ve got it about right.
Michelle Obama - with Sasha, 8, and Malia, 11
Why do the Presidents daughters both have RUSSIAN names ????????????
the legacy of George W M D Bush ...
Unless the Rat primary is later than the Pub primary, his switching parties would not be able to garner him re-election. Now maybe if he moves to another, very blue state.
Sounds good to me. High-tech toys like the iPad will be really cheap when the designers have their pay hammered to the level of the manufacturers. I can hardly wait!
Of course, there's always the risk the designers will evaporate before Release 2.
But, lest I be bored, let me contemplate with what grade of toilet paper will the Chi-Coms honor the California public employee pensions! I'll bet that'd be a real knee-slapper! It'd probably be the best argument in favor of communism ever advanced.
I think you have a point there. Unless the Dems hadn’t run someone and he had time to swap parties, then perhaps he could swing something. Otherwise, and probably, you are right .
In respect to being an assault on the very concept of individual liberty I don't think cap-and-trade rises to that level. HCR does and I think that is really its only purpose.
As for McCain's ability or intent to destroy this Republic I don't think he is intelligent enough to see the affect his policies would have, I don't think he has the mal-intent in his heart that 0baMao has and I don't think he is quite clever enough to do what 0bieWonbuttholie did today. Those are my thoughts about him even though IMO he is an extremely skilled Senator.
It’s just for show. Remember that this is a club and as much as the pubes might come off as being genuine, they want to continue to country club life style they have in congress. The Republican party is broke and as Boner said his speech, they pubes have helped to destroy congress.
Not only that but people have lost sight of just how long Pelosi, Reid and Franks (and their liberal-minded ilk) have been in power. Add a soclialist President to the pot and this is what you get. Now we have a gazillion illegals in this country who will get free healthcare and I have to pay for it along with my own family coverage. S-rew who's fault it is. OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED US!
Why did that happen?
Perhaps everyone was tired of being urinated on by the GOP, and their poor choices to run in the 2008 elections. There wasn't a GOP single candidate who was worth considering.
Cripes, Ron Paul was up against Mcstain in the primaries. Obama was practically running against Mcstain's VP nominee (Palin). That's how bad it was.
No one can tell me that if any of the Republicans that were running had won the election, that we would be facing what we are facing today. Not a one of them would have done this. We are waiting for perfection and since Ronald Reagan left office, that doesn’t exist.
“Why do the Presidents daughters both have RUSSIAN names ????????????”
Putin won the coin toss.
That's almost funny. If Mcstain would have won, we'd be facing much of the same, and hoping that he would have a heart attack so Palin would take over.