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Mad About Obamacare? Blame Bush
American Spectator ^ | March 21, 2010 | Philip Kline

Posted on 03/21/2010 9:19:43 PM PDT by ejdrapes

Mad About Obamacare? Blame Bush
By Philip Klein on 3.21.10 @ 11:27PM

They did it.

Despite an overwhelming public backlash and the likely political ramifications, Democrats cut deals and twisted arms and got the votes they needed, winning by a 219 to 212 margin. While the reconciliation process still remains, it’s a sideshow at this point. The United States is a presidential signature away from having national health care.

Suffice it to say, as somebody who has spent the past year working to expose the devastating consequences of this legislation and who values individual liberty, this is a sad day. And I’m working on a longer piece right now for tomorrow’s site about the ongoing fight against its provisions, which just got a lot harder. But as upset as I am, I can’t pin the blame entirely on Democrats.

The reason is that by passing this bill, liberal Democrats were just doing what liberal Democrats do – raising taxes and expanding the role of government in our lives. Liberals have been working for decades to impose national health care on America. It’s been their Holy Grail. It should have been apparent to everybody that once they took over Congress and the presidency that it would be their top domestic priority. All of the leading Democratic presidential candidates proposed health care plans roughly along the lines of what passed today.

The question conservatives should be asking though, is how did we get in this position in the first place? How come, over the course of two elections, Democrats were able to take back the White House and amass substantial majorities in both chambers of Congress, allowing them to enact this sweeping legislation with no Republican votes – and huge defections in their own party?

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To: americanophile
Blame Mexico for losing California to America.

LOL! Maybe we should give it back. That would be too funny.

101 posted on 03/21/2010 9:58:29 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: CommieCutter
Bush’s legacy? Obama.

Sad to say it, but you are 100% correct. Of course Obama was prepared behind the shadows for years to take over the US as we know it - Bush provided the opportunity. Sad. I have ominous feelings towards the Pelosi, Reid, and The One. Feelings that are dark that I don't usually have about anyone. I really hope there is a brighter future in store, but I don't see a peaceful means out of this takeover - and know THEY ARE NOT DONE YET! Novemember is still far away and they will do more and more damage to this nation at a furious pace.

My little boy who isn't even two has almost $40,000 he owes to the government for "his share" of the national debt. I don't know what else you consider that to be other than a crime. I hope the younger generation doesn't forgive those that have put this burden on them. I would hope they refuse the debts of their irresponsible parents generation that voted for the Dems and RINOs. I hope a great purging takes place that removes the evil elements that work to economically enslave us and our children even before they are born. Sadly, part of me wants the whole thing to crash so that the purging can occur.
102 posted on 03/21/2010 9:58:47 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: Paradox

Throw money at it, that’s the reason. Scott Brown won. Go figure. Soros can throw a gazillion bucks at bonko, the dems can run a gazillion ads.

We will not forget. We will vote for the conservative with a 500k budget. The MSM has lost it’s power.

Pity party tonight with drinks, my house.... BYOB

Remember, the indy’s are in our camp. They’re not buying it anymore. They were suckered once (well, perhaps more, but bambi cemented the dems are LIARS) And the more they dems spend on useless ads, and get donations, and get funding, it takes away from others, so, there’s less they have for the next one.

They’re going to regret today in the near future. It’s their party, and they’re going to cry. They’re FINISHED. I don’t see them in power for at least 20 years.

As far as, “We’ve never repealed a bill” before. We’ve never been this corrupt before. Same bill, different story. It will be repealed. We can do this!


103 posted on 03/21/2010 9:59:00 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: beckysueb
George W Bush was rock solid on the war. Conservatives got content because our focus was all about prosecuting the war on terror. And as long as GWB was strong on the WOT, other things were exucsed.

Of course it's not all about Bush - a lot of blame can be placed on congress too. But Bush didn't use the bully pulpit enough to push for reform on domestic issues. The one thing outside of the war he was passionate about was amnesty.

104 posted on 03/21/2010 9:59:50 PM PDT by ejdrapes (I like leaders that don't need teleprompters or notes written on their hand....)
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To: outofstyle

Eve’s fault. Should’ve left that apple on the tree.


105 posted on 03/21/2010 10:00:21 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: MHT
His term is over and so are its lost opportunities. Blaming him makes the media right and I, perhaps alone, refuse to buy anything the press declares about George W. Bush.

You're not alone.

People want someone to blame, how about blaming all those who fire INTO the tent instead of firing OUT. The media couldn't have succeeded against Bush without the full help and assistance of those who claim to be on our side. If we stuck together like the dems this would be a different world.

106 posted on 03/21/2010 10:00:45 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: ejdrapes

President Bush deserves part of the blame but in the end it is the American people who are to blame. Now it is up to us and those who have awakened from their slumber to fix this mess. This means giving every dollar and hour we can electing real conservatives to Congress. There is no doubt the Democrats are going to be punished but we need to make sure that we don’t just get a bunch of wussie compassionate/psuedo conservative types elected to replace them. We have opportunity to elect real conservatives across this nation in a way not seen even in 1994. Let us not waste it . There is a lot of pain coming. Tomorrow the stock market is going to be hit with this ton of crap legistlation and businesses are going to start bleeding more jobs going into the fall. These stupid Democrats are going to be even worse off by the time Nov rolls around.


107 posted on 03/21/2010 10:02:19 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Confiscation of wealth with out explicit consent is not charity.)
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To: Jewels1091

Yeah, well, he wasn’t “perfect” enough for some so now we have a LOT to worry about.


108 posted on 03/21/2010 10:07:12 PM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Salamander
they cut off their noses to spite their face!
109 posted on 03/21/2010 10:09:36 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: beckysueb
Spot on Beckysue!!!

We'll own these dumb asses in November!!!!

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Obama said at the White House shortly after the House voted: "This isn't radical reform, but it is major reform."

To our Prez I say...


A short Youtube Video -- "What are you... a doomsday machine..."

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Pelosi

110 posted on 03/21/2010 10:09:45 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: dragnet2

Well of course. With a majority, what can they do? Accept it? The past is the past. We can say, well, if only... for so long. Today is today, and our guys stepped it up.

Paul Ryan was on fire. I’m next to his district and have known him for a LONG time. They did rattle the dems today, and wasn’t that a sample of what they are made of? Of what they can do? And why haven’t they used it before? Because we didn’t inspire them, us, we the people, we took them for granted. Period. They went to their job.

No other congress is this corrupt, and we won’t relax, now or in the coming years. We need more Paul Ryans. The R’s need to keep this style going, and F all the dems when they get control. They shattered JJJ, it was beautiful.

So, you may be in the 2005 mindset, come join us, we’re shaking and moving here in 2010. We’ve rattled their cages, and unless they want to be mccained, they’ll be conservative. I have hope. I hope you see it too. The old codgers are going or gone.


111 posted on 03/21/2010 10:11:06 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Cold Heat
It was the fight for his replacement where we formed a circular firing squad and killed our own asses.

That circular firing squad is still happening today. Look at this thread and some of the comments about Bush. Like blaming Bush for is disaster is going to do us any good today or in the future.

Even with a clear enemy and a clear target to attack, we conservatives still can't point all of our guns in the right direction!
112 posted on 03/21/2010 10:11:46 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Obama should quit judging the 48% that did not vote for him by the mental capacity of those that did)
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To: CommieCutter
However, the REAL BLAME lies with our public education and so-called Mainstream media.

This has all been orchestrated for a hundred years. Bit by bit from the Fabians to the Frankfurt school a progressive constructed society has been the goal. Academia and media are the means to their end.

113 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:07 PM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Jewels1091
Not sure where you got that impression. I'm certainly not one who only supports those who have 100% conservative credentials.

I don't agree AT ALL with Obama and the Dems in congress. But they know how to get things done. In about 1 year they were able to nationalize health care. In the 8 years of Bush what huge domestic policy agenda was accomplished? The only two I can think of were No Child Left Behind (with Ted Kennedy) and the prescription drug benefit (nothing conservative about that).

114 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:45 PM PDT by ejdrapes (I like leaders that don't need teleprompters or notes written on their hand....)
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Blame the idiot that wrote this column.


115 posted on 03/21/2010 10:16:42 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Frantzie; All

“Americans are too stupid and lazy to cancel their TV service.”

Heck, I don’t even have to bother. Even with converter boxes on 3 different TV’s in my house I cannot count on getting a decent picture. I am already reading more and listening to C-Span more. Kind of like the Cheshire Cat smile.


116 posted on 03/21/2010 10:17:36 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: ejdrapes
Sad to say it, but I agree with this. Republicans squandered the 8 years they had with Bush in office.

Bull. The media was complicit every step of the way. By-the-by, Republicans only had 6 of 8, Democrats had both houses for two - the worst two of the GWB presidency. Had we had even a remotely fair and balanced media, we would not have the current _resident.

117 posted on 03/21/2010 10:19:49 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: ejdrapes
Bush is doing pennance with BJ Clinton on a trip to Haiti. That alone should be enough for acting like he could be a 'uniter not a divider' when it came to communists in our government.

His daddy tried to play conservative 'till someone read his lips. McCain couldn't call the communist he ran against a communist, but preferred to reach across the aisle with senile precision.

The dems are in for a real surprise if they think they'll be faced with such balls-less opponents in the future. The Tea Party, thanks to them, now specialize in "teabags", and you can bet any serious candidate running as a Republican this fall will be sporting the "in your face" pair the Left has so longed for.

Come November, the Left will experience first hand just what 'teabagging' feels like, up-front, and personal. They've got from now 'till then to get their Barney Frank on, 'cause it's gonna be fuggly.

118 posted on 03/21/2010 10:21:53 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Indy Pendance

I find it a bit disheartening that the only solution seems to be money. Ads ads and more ads. It’s unfortunate that the American electorate by and large respond only to a barrage of political advertising and don’t take the time to research candidates and make a choice on merits alone. King’s ransoms to law firms and PR agencies that represent both sides seems decidedly perverse. Reminds me of a painful divorce where the married couple quibble over property, and at the end of the day there’s not much left to divvy up, but the attorneys on both sides make out like bandits.


119 posted on 03/21/2010 10:27:54 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ejdrapes

Sorry, won’t wash...the blame rests squarely on Obama and his minions...it happened on their watch, on their own terms, and was prostituted in the process because the end justifies the means in the world of libtards. By making it Bush’s fault you are letting the libtards off the hook and are assuring that there will be no consequences for their unscrupulous behavior come November 2010.


120 posted on 03/21/2010 10:31:17 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: ejdrapes

A lot of blame can go around.


121 posted on 03/21/2010 10:31:48 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies! Bunnies=Nature's Freaks)
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To: CommieCutter; Clemenza; rmlew; Yehuda; firebrand; neverdem; Reaganite1984; nutmeg; PARodrig

The blame belongs to the right that kept surrendering each slice to the left. They surrendered education to them, the press. They surrendered and allowed the infiltration of every institution by the left. In the name of civility they backed off at every turn and brought noodles to a gun fight. They played by the queensbury rules and the left played schoolyard no rules fisticuffs. This is the result of fifty years of surrender and compromise in the name of peace. Instead of proselytizing back we allowed them to control the debate assuming the people were smart enough to understand the intellectual superiority of the conservative argument. This is what you get. They promoted their ideology with religious fervor and we simply played to the conservative crowd. We should have been trying to convert the rest of the masses. Instead of importing foreign ideas we should have been exporting ours. Whatever resistance we put up is too little too late. From here on it’s an uphill battle. 2010 may well be the last election conservatives ever win, because we think in the short term while the left has been preparing this day for the last fifty years. It’s a coup d’etat and it was carried in broad daylight without firing a shot..


122 posted on 03/21/2010 10:32:36 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ejdrapes

Blame Columbus for having found America.


123 posted on 03/21/2010 10:33:06 PM PDT by SmartInsight
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To: ejdrapes

I will blame the Democrats for this one. Sorry.


124 posted on 03/21/2010 10:33:54 PM PDT by Marie2 (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: CommieCutter
Bush was not a good leader, not doubt. He shares the blame for being a pushover domestically.

Bush, not a good leader? Now I've heard everything.
125 posted on 03/21/2010 10:36:17 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Cacique

You nailed it.


126 posted on 03/21/2010 10:45:23 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Salamander; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB; DoughtyOne; TigersEye; cripplecreek
McCain is a freaking loser RINO without equal but I think he wouldn’t have done anything as tyrannical as *this*.

Are you saying cap-and-trade isn't as tyrannical as Obamacare?

127 posted on 03/21/2010 10:46:57 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: ejdrapes

The commies have been infiltrating every aspect of our society for the last century. The blame lies squarely with the citizens of the USA. Reagan may have facilitated the destruction of the Soviet Union, but, we have never stopped the communist cancer growing in our own back yard.

We have sat on our lazy asses and allowed every sacred institution in this country to be controlled and dominated by these filthy pigs. We are now reaping the whirlwind.

To blame Bush is a joke. He was only a product of a very decadent society that has refused to vote, refused to attend school board meetings, refused to get involved with their elected officials, refused to raise their own children, refused to curb their own insatiable appetites for self-agrandizing narcissism, and, without one iota of conscience, allowed the murder of millions of babies. And, they will think nothing of killing off millions of elderly and infirmed when they think they may have to pay for their care.

I could go on; but, I think you recognize who is really responsible for the destruction of this country. Obama is commie loser and the American people helped produce him and they put him in office. The water came to a boil, however, way before Bush and Obama.

God Help Us...


128 posted on 03/21/2010 10:50:04 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Obama, YOU LIE!!)
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To: mlocher

>However, I am going to place the blame precisely where it belongs — on the democrats and its three illustrious leaders.

Yeah-Larry, Curley, and Moe.


129 posted on 03/21/2010 10:52:05 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: ejdrapes

George W. Bush was never able to accomplish his dream of providing amnesty for all illegal aliens.

Yet most people on FR are still carrying water for George W.


130 posted on 03/21/2010 10:55:52 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: ejdrapes

“Over the course of two elections”?

Hardly! Try the marginalization of Senator McCarthy, and the resultant crippling of the House Unamerican Activities Commission, as confirmed by the Venona Transcripts. Ever since, the termites have been chewing away at the heartwood, to where the only thing keeping up the semblance of the shell are the faded hopes and dreams of a mal-educated polity.

My father brought me here for freedom - where do I send my child?


131 posted on 03/21/2010 11:02:25 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! )
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To: A Strict Constructionist
If you want someone to blame, Look in the mirror. Yes the Republicans squandered 8 years of control of Congress. Yes the Conservatives were too busy working, paying taxes, paying the mortgage, building families and sending off to schools that were controlled by Socialists who are failing our children in providing an adequate education. And yes some voted for "hope and change" in the last election. So now the picture is complete. The Socialists want to control all aspects of our lives, teach our children social experiments in sex and how rotten this country really is backed up by text books that ignore this country's history because it is too hard to teach.

So we can roll over and play dead and collect the free government housing, obama food coupons, and wait to die under government health care or we can take our country back.

What is done is done. We can fight and get control of our schools and universities, libraries, local school boards. We can run for local elected offices, state offices and national offices. We have to change things. We have been silent too long and if we continue to be silent then we will get run over just like we did this evening with the Nationalization of Health Care which amounts to 18% of our economy.

We should fight with everything we have to restore this country to its greatness, fiscal soundness and position in the world as a fair arbitrator on sound footing. We must do these things or the Socialists and Communists will take the remaining freedoms we have and flush them.

It is time for the silent majority to become the driving force in this country again. We have to become involved and vocal at all levels of government. Remember no political office is to small or insignificant to have an affect on the lives of those around you. This is the only was to beat back the Socialists and Communists and restore America to its greatness.

132 posted on 03/21/2010 11:08:01 PM PDT by reader25
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To: ejdrapes
This is pure BS. Blame obama and his cartel, the dumbing down of our education system and the kiss a$$ media. I am getting really tired of people blaming everything on President GW Bush.

Get rid of Geraldo FOX if you want to keep your ratings.

133 posted on 03/21/2010 11:09:10 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: rabscuttle385

That’s a good question. I’m not sure I have an answer. They’re both very negative for our nation. No doubt about that. While they might not be totally equal in the devastation they would cause, I think it’s fair to say they are both of roughly the same caliber. They are devastating.

In 2008, we were screwed no matter what we did.

What scares me is the mindset I’m seeing around here, that it just isn’t all that important that Conservatives do everything they can to boot this guy from office.

Man, if someone can’t see the need to boot this guy, just don’t come bitching to me anymore about RINOs in Congress. If not now when?


134 posted on 03/21/2010 11:32:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If we as Republicans can't clean up our house, who can or will? Just say no to MeCain(D).)
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To: DoughtyOne

If it’s any consolation to you, I expect people are going to have a whole new look at what amnesty would imply. They may not be able to see three steps ahead, but two is much easier. McCain will lose the primary, much to Sarah Palin’s relief. I don’t know what would suffice to “kick him out” prior to November.


135 posted on 03/21/2010 11:36:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I was surprised to hear their primary down there is held late in the year, something like August. I wish he was off the ballot next month.

I sure hope you’re right, he is defeated in the primary. If I implied I wanted him out before November, I mis-spoke. I envision him leaving at the end of the year at the earliest.

While that won’t be early enough for me, I’ll bear up under it. ;-)

I’ve heard the idea lofted that he might switch parties if he is taken out in the primary. Evidently the Democrats haven’t been launching a strong opponent against him in the past, and it wouldn’t be all that hard for him to pull that off.

One of the people from Arizona explained their process to me last year. I believe I’ve got it about right.


136 posted on 03/21/2010 11:54:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If we as Republicans can't clean up our house, who can or will? Just say no to MeCain(D).)
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To: ejdrapes

Michelle Obama - with Sasha, 8, and Malia, 11

Why do the President’s daughters both have RUSSIAN names ????????????


137 posted on 03/21/2010 11:54:55 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: ejdrapes

the legacy of George W M D Bush ...

Obama
Democratic Congress


138 posted on 03/21/2010 11:58:26 PM PDT by element92
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To: DoughtyOne

Unless the Rat primary is later than the Pub primary, his switching parties would not be able to garner him re-election. Now maybe if he moves to another, very blue state.


139 posted on 03/21/2010 11:59:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: element92

BUSH’S FAULT


140 posted on 03/22/2010 12:01:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: April Lexington
Obama will likely sell California to the Chinese to pay off the debt.

Sounds good to me. High-tech toys like the iPad will be really cheap when the designers have their pay hammered to the level of the manufacturers. I can hardly wait!

Of course, there's always the risk the designers will evaporate before Release 2.

But, lest I be bored, let me contemplate with what grade of toilet paper will the Chi-Coms honor the California public employee pensions! I'll bet that'd be a real knee-slapper! It'd probably be the best argument in favor of communism ever advanced.

141 posted on 03/22/2010 12:16:45 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think you have a point there. Unless the Dems hadn’t run someone and he had time to swap parties, then perhaps he could swing something. Otherwise, and probably, you are right .


142 posted on 03/22/2010 12:28:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If we as Republicans can't clean up our house, who can or will? Just say no to MeCain(D).)
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To: rabscuttle385; Salamander
Are you saying cap-and-trade isn't as tyrannical as Obamacare?

In respect to being an assault on the very concept of individual liberty I don't think cap-and-trade rises to that level. HCR does and I think that is really its only purpose.

As for McCain's ability or intent to destroy this Republic I don't think he is intelligent enough to see the affect his policies would have, I don't think he has the mal-intent in his heart that 0baMao has and I don't think he is quite clever enough to do what 0bieWonbuttholie did today. Those are my thoughts about him even though IMO he is an extremely skilled Senator.

143 posted on 03/22/2010 12:47:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Indy Pendance

It’s just for show. Remember that this is a club and as much as the pubes might come off as being genuine, they want to continue to country club life style they have in congress. The Republican party is broke and as Boner said his speech, they pubes have helped to destroy congress.


144 posted on 03/22/2010 2:17:57 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: beckysueb
Oh yeah, thats it. Blame Bush. How about blame all the dumb asses who voted for Obama?!

Not only that but people have lost sight of just how long Pelosi, Reid and Franks (and their liberal-minded ilk) have been in power. Add a soclialist President to the pot and this is what you get. Now we have a gazillion illegals in this country who will get free healthcare and I have to pay for it along with my own family coverage. S-rew who's fault it is. OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED US!

145 posted on 03/22/2010 3:34:45 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Want real change? Vote out Pelosi, Reid and Franks!)
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To: beckysueb
Oh yeah, thats it. Blame Bush. How about blame all the dumb asses who voted for Obama?!

Why did that happen?

Perhaps everyone was tired of being urinated on by the GOP, and their poor choices to run in the 2008 elections. There wasn't a GOP single candidate who was worth considering.

Cripes, Ron Paul was up against Mcstain in the primaries. Obama was practically running against Mcstain's VP nominee (Palin). That's how bad it was.

146 posted on 03/22/2010 4:01:54 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Sarajevo

No one can tell me that if any of the Republicans that were running had won the election, that we would be facing what we are facing today. Not a one of them would have done this. We are waiting for perfection and since Ronald Reagan left office, that doesn’t exist.


147 posted on 03/22/2010 4:29:19 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“Why do the President’s daughters both have RUSSIAN names ????????????”

Putin won the coin toss.


148 posted on 03/22/2010 4:57:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: beckysueb
No one can tell me that if any of the Republicans that were running had won the election, that we would be facing what we are facing today.

That's almost funny. If Mcstain would have won, we'd be facing much of the same, and hoping that he would have a heart attack so Palin would take over.

149 posted on 03/22/2010 5:03:29 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: beckysueb

Exactly.


150 posted on 03/22/2010 5:03:43 AM PDT by BlueAngel
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